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PenguinHead 06-22-2006 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by David
The differences are:

1. That the players on the albums are Christine McVie, John McVie, Lindsey Buckingham & Mick Fleetwood, rather than (insert numerous names of hired sessionists here). The aforementioned four have a lot more personality & the stamp of personal style in their playing than do the sessionists, who are self-trained & paid to supply a mainstream instrumental cushion that rocks no boats rather than to express highly individual & idiosyncratic sonic textures.

2. That the neobaroque splendor & the dainty miniaturism of the Mac's production style find a complementary haven in the cleanly controlled environment of the studio & the dynamically sensitive medium of the CD--& not in the cavernous sports arenas & amphitheaters of the live show, where such details are almost always lost amid greatly diminished dynamics & reverberative sludge.

I think, for both these reasons, the band's earlier approach--clean & detailed in the studio but jagged & aggressive onstage--made far better aesthetic & physical sense.

Well, yeah, I do, too. But five on stage is exactly what happens to sound better!


David, Amen! You hit the nail on the head. Perhaps it's a generation gap, but I don't go to concert expecting a polished note-for-note Vegas act.

In the Fleetwood Mac of old, I loved hearing how they would transform studio polished songs into raw, live honest rock and roll, with all its spontaneous rough edges.

I lament the fact that Fleetwood Mac, as a live act, is now so generic in sound and approach. Still, I can understand that, with age, old rockers would be inclined to add support players.

The Mirage video rocks! The Tango video is tepid!

TheWILDheart 06-22-2006 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers
The Dance sucks? is that what you're saying? :shrug:

no....i quite like the dance CD. I just don't like the way they set up the whole thing specifically for the dvd. I would have prefered that the concert came from part of the tour as the tour was better than the DVD.

PenguinHead 06-22-2006 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWILDheart
no....i quite like the dance CD. I just don't like the way they set up the whole thing specifically for the dvd. I would have prefered that the concert came from part of the tour as the tour was better than the DVD.

Well, the irony in that statement is that without the CD/DVD there likely wouldn't have been a tour!

chiliD 06-22-2006 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by PenguinHead
Well, the irony in that statement is that without the CD/DVD there likely wouldn't have been a tour!

AMEN!! :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by PenguinHead
The Mirage video rocks! The Tango video is tepid!

If you're only talking about the final video product. The actual live shows on the Tango tour kicked some major butt...the video doesn't come close to capturing that. That "Shakin' The Cage" tour is my favorite Fleetwood Mac tour of all the tours I've witnessed in person.

HomerMcvie 06-22-2006 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PenguinHead
David, Amen! You hit the nail on the head. Perhaps it's a generation gap, but I don't go to concert expecting a polished note-for-note Vegas act.

In the Fleetwood Mac of old, I loved hearing how they would transform studio polished songs into raw, live honest rock and roll, with all its spontaneous rough edges.

The Mirage video rocks! The Tango video is tepid!

Exactly. I want to know WHO decided that they could no longer be a five piece band, that a freakin' orchestra was required. And that's what they are now, a Vegas act.:distress:
Mirage is the BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TheWILDheart 06-22-2006 12:18 PM

Shakin the Cage? is that some sort of pre-Buckingham Nicks tour? I dnt show any interest in the mac until 1975.

chiliD 06-22-2006 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWILDheart
Shakin the Cage? is that some sort of pre-Buckingham Nicks tour? I dnt show any interest in the mac until 1975.

"Shakin' The Cage" was the official title of the 1987/88 tour in support of the Tango In The Night album. It just is kind of suspicious that Mick used that same title for a subsequent Zoo album, too.

TheWILDheart 06-22-2006 12:26 PM

really? that was the official title? oh...didn't know that. Oh well...ya learn something new everyday.

justcrazylove 06-23-2006 02:09 AM

it looks like your learning alot:laugh:

TheWILDheart 06-23-2006 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie
Exactly. I want to know WHO decided that they could no longer be a five piece band, that a freakin' orchestra was required. And that's what they are now, a Vegas act.:distress:
Mirage is the BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I don't know what the freakin hell you are on about. Watch the Mirage video again and look to the right of the stage - sort of at an angel right of Mick. There are 2 extra guitar players, 4 backup singers and the guy who does backup drums.

trackaghost 06-23-2006 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TheWILDheart
I don't know what the freakin hell you are on about. Watch the Mirage video again and look to the right of the stage - sort of at an angel right of Mick. There are 2 extra guitar players, 4 backup singers and the guy who does backup drums.

Are you sure you watched the Mirage video? There are no extra players, besides Ray Lindsey who you see playing acoustic guitar on Go Your Own Way. There certainly isn't another drummer let alone four back-up singers?! Where would they hide them on that stage? Bizarre.

SortaSavageLike 06-23-2006 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by trackaghost
Are you sure you watched the Mirage video? There are no extra players, besides Ray Lindsey who you see playing acoustic guitar on Go Your Own Way. There certainly isn't another drummer let alone four back-up singers?! Where would they hide them on that stage? Bizarre.

TheWILDheart has the Sixth Sense! :eek:

jbrownsjr 06-23-2006 09:49 AM

i liked the basic lighting system they used on Mirage... lots of blue... and those big flashing lights on the side.... not to mention the air blowing christine's hair while she sang :laugh:

cliffdweller 06-23-2006 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr
not to mention the air blowing christine's hair while she sang :laugh:

I have to admit, I really like this too for some odd reason. However, I think Chris's wardrobe (not to mention that garish make-up) needed A LOT of help. Chris is an attractive lady, why did she opt for such a frumpy look?

Stevie has clown make-up on too, I guess it's "performance" make-up but it looks ghastly to me. Lindsey's make-up isn't that great either :laugh: I think Mick was even wearing some eye-liner. What was WITH the make-up on this tour? :laugh:

TheWILDheart 06-23-2006 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SortaSavageLike
TheWILDheart has the Sixth Sense! :eek:


LMAO - I wish. I am almost certain it was Mirage. I watched them all recently and there were backup singers and 2 guitarists...oh well...:shrug:


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