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dissention 03-03-2005 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie
(Shudder) :rolleyes: Wow, Bella Donna was/is greatness......Wild Heart was darn good. IMO, the rest rolled straight downhill, like a 10 ton boulder! Look at the SALES. Do you think the public just "got over her"? Sales(IMO=duh) was indicative of the quality of the project. Especially riding the wave she was on. She dropped the ball, errrr, boulder. :rolleyes:
:nod::nod::nod:

RAL did it for me. That album is so bad that it hurts. Then came OSOTM, which you won't find me dissing (save a few putrid songs). Then I saw Stevie on the Timsepace tour and got very worried. Then came the awful "new" songs on Timespace and I knew the end was near. Then came Street Angel. *shudder*

dissention 03-03-2005 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by PenguinHead
I find it funny and odd how some fans are so damn fickle. So an artist you like puts out an album you don't like....so you write them off entirely?? In the scope of an artist's career, you should allow them to make a few missteps (which are totally subjective).
When it comes to my taste for Stevie, it's a bit more than her simply "putting out an album I don't like." :o

eclipse 03-03-2005 10:03 AM
straying....off subject
 
Isn't this thread named Fleetwood Mac's best produced son?
Everyone is blasting/fawning over different aspects of FM- but as for the question....
I will go with Gold Dust Woman-
when you hear Stevie's demo on the Rumour's new release, then listen to what Lindsey and the other producers did with it..... Excellent production.
Tango in the Night is a gimmie-for Lindsey,
I also love the simplicity of When I see you again- Flows beautifully between the vocals and the acoustic guitar and fading sounds....

just my ides...
~~eclipse~~

eclipse 03-03-2005 10:05 AM
Sorry- Just my ideas- (not ides...Must be thinking about the ides of March and bewaring them :rolleyes: )
~~eclipse~~

sweetgypsygirl 03-03-2005 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by henryscutter
I guess a couple ****ty solo albums didn't scare you away from lindsey and chris :sorry: :laugh: :p
Right on! That's just what I was thinking. Not to mention, I've yet to come across a ****ty solo album from Stevie...try listening to them more than once, they'll grow on you. Not ****ty at all.

catinthedark 03-03-2005 11:42 AM
Just been catching up on the last day or so of posts here. I have to chime in on my support for RAL. I LOVE this album. I've never understood the profound disdain many fans have for it. It's stood the test of time for me (and I actually hate synthesizers). I bought the first three solo albums back in 1987, and Rock a Little was the one I connected most to, and to which I listened most. I recently downloaded the RAL demos and have been listening to them non stop. Love them all (except Mirror Mirror). Sure, I also love many songs off BD and WH (and I love almost all of TISL), but if I was going off to a desert island, I'd take RAL. It hangs together better to me, and there isn't one song on it which bores me (which I can't say for BD or WH... *cough* How Still My Love... *cough* Bella Donna.. *cough* Gate and Garden... *cough* Sable on Blond... )

amber 03-03-2005 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by catinthedark
Just been catching up on the last day or so of posts here. I have to chime in on my support for RAL. I LOVE this album. I've never understood the profound disdain many fans have for it. It's stood the test of time for me (and I actually hate synthesizers). I bought the first three solo albums back in 1987, and Rock a Little was the one I connected most to, and to which I listened most. I recently downloaded the RAL demos and have been listening to them non stop. Love them all (except Mirror Mirror). Sure, I also love many songs off BD and WH (and I love almost all of TISL), but if I was going off to a desert island, I'd take RAL. It hangs together better to me, and there isn't one song on it which bores me (which I can't say for BD or WH... *cough* How Still My Love... *cough* Bella Donna.. *cough* Gate and Garden... *cough* Sable on Blond... )
:angel: :xoxo: :nod: :woohoo: :thumbsup:
Oh, I see you got a little boredom caught in your throat, there, too. :laugh:

dissention 03-03-2005 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by catinthedark
Just been catching up on the last day or so of posts here. I have to chime in on my support for RAL. I LOVE this album. I've never understood the profound disdain many fans have for it. It's stood the test of time for me (and I actually hate synthesizers). I bought the first three solo albums back in 1987, and Rock a Little was the one I connected most to, and to which I listened most. I recently downloaded the RAL demos and have been listening to them non stop. Love them all (except Mirror Mirror). Sure, I also love many songs off BD and WH (and I love almost all of TISL), but if I was going off to a desert island, I'd take RAL. It hangs together better to me, and there isn't one song on it which bores me (which I can't say for BD or WH... *cough* How Still My Love... *cough* Bella Donna.. *cough* Gate and Garden... *cough* Sable on Blond... )
I have a disdain for it simply because I find it terrible in every aspect. Vocals, production, and the lyrics especially. Those songs you said you can't stand on BD and WH are among my favorites and the difference in quality between them and RAL is enormous. Sister Honey, the title cut, I Sing For the Things, The Nightmare; they're embarrassingly bad.

Villavic 03-03-2005 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by The Tower
"Gypsy" is absolutely it. The guitars, the voices, everything. .
I agree, though Tango in the Night songs are great also. I think Lindsey and Richard were in their peak skills during the mid 80s

HomerMcvie 03-03-2005 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by sweetgypsygirl
Right on! That's just what I was thinking. Not to mention, I've yet to come across a ****ty solo album from Stevie...try listening to them more than once, they'll grow on you. Not ****ty at all.
I tried listening to OSOTM for months. I came to one conclusion:
Ewwwww. Turn her over. She's done.
I've heard that there were some later albums that were better, however, I'd lost all interest in her solo career by then(and, alot of respect for her). :shocked:
Perhaps there's a lesson for all artists here: Don't put out an album just to be putting out an album. If it's a piece of dung, flush it. :xoxo:

amber 03-03-2005 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie
I tried listening to OSOTM for months. I came to one conclusion:
Ewwwww. Turn her over. She's done.
I've heard that there were some later albums that were better, however, I'd lost all interest in her solo career by then(and, alot of respect for her). :shocked:
Perhaps there's a lesson for all artists here: Don't put out an album just to be putting out an album. If it's a piece of dung, flush it. :xoxo:
Perhaps there's another lesson: Just cause one person thinks it's a piece of dung, doesn't mean everyone will. I really like about 6-7 songs on OSOTM. So, again, I have to say, suck my bun, Homie! :laugh: :xoxo: I would never get Christine's solo albums, But you like them :shrug: See how that works? :)

Neal 03-03-2005 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by PenguinHead
Fair enough. Yet if we didn't have the studio album to make that comparison, and there was nothing to "translate," how then would you judge those live performances?

It's not my favorite era of the band, but I think the few songs that they did do were fine: Seven Wonders, Little Lies, Everywhere, Isn't It Midnight. I don't compare studio songs against their live performances. I'm not looking for them to replicate their studio sound. I found out very early on, in the seventies, that the live Fleetwood Mac band was a very different animal from their studio band.

When it was just the five of them, I really liked the rough-around-edges interpretations of their live performances. They couldn't replicate their studio
sound, so it was always interesting to hear how they reconciled that.
Once they started adding numerous background singers and musicians, they leaned more toward closer resemblance to the studio versions and lost, in my mind, a certain rock and roll edge. Hmmm...come to think about it, you're assessment is probably accurate!

Now I wonder what the Tango songs would have sounded like if Lindsey stayed and toured with the band, and they didn't add the background musicians. The songs would have been less polished, but maybe better!
Who wants to go to concert just to hear carbon copies of their studio versions? I don't.
Great points. On second thought, 'Isn't It Midnight' and 'Seven Wonders' were pretty decent live. However I've yet to hear a live version of 'Little Lies' or 'Everywhere' (including The Dance) that I like. How these songs would have translated live with Lindsey onboard is anyones guess; and I can only imagine what he would have done with 'Caroline', 'TITN', or even 'Big Love' onstage.

This post came to mind as I was watching Duran Duran (fabulous show, btw) last night. The arrangements of many hits were altered, and the set was more guitar-oriented as opposed to the synth sound that's prominent on their albums. So in this instance, I was more than pleased that the songs I heard were not "carbon copies" of the studio versions.

HomerMcvie 03-03-2005 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by amber
Perhaps there's another lesson: Just cause one person thinks it's a piece of dung, doesn't mean everyone will. I really like about 6-7 songs on OSOTM. So, again, I have to say, suck my bun, Homie! :laugh: :xoxo: I would never get Christine's solo albums, But you like them :shrug: See how that works? :)
Which bun, AMber?
And, would you NOT say that there's a CORRELATION between her sales, drug use, quality of the material, and her popularity in general at this time? She was practically in the gutter(and her work shows that, IMO) Lame assed.
She could pass some Fairy gas on tape, and some of ya'all would pay top dollar for it. :rolleyes:

dissention 03-03-2005 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie
She could pass some Fairy gas on tape, and some of ya'all would pay top dollar for it. :rolleyes:
I'd purchase it just to see what interesting harmonies she pulled out of her ass...so to speak.

amber 03-03-2005 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie
Which bun, AMber?
And, would you NOT say that there's a CORRELATION between her sales, drug use, quality of the material, and her popularity in general at this time? She was practically in the gutter(and her work shows that, IMO) Lame assed.
She could pass some Fairy gas on tape, and some of ya'all would pay top dollar for it. :rolleyes:
Pick a bun, any bun! they're both great. :laugh: I suppose there could be a correlation, but I also think that's the natural arc of a career...and her arc went on longer than most people's. you know, you're hot, then you're not. :shrug: Styles change and new people come onto the scene and all that. And, yes, I would pay for fairy gas,(mmm, fairy gas...drool) but not Stevie's songs I don't like. And honestly, I still don't understand how you could listen to a whole album of Christine songs repeatedly. *yawn* :wavey:


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