Oh, I enjoy honesty. It seems that when I Do that it is held against me. But whaevah. I can imagine that he irritates you. Me too, to be honest. He usually seem to talk in indirect language. And he is a pompous ass at times. thing is, when I met him he didn't come over like that at all. Put a mic under his nose or a camera in his face and he walks on eggs, and talks like a therapist.

In this case, you can't hear him talk, you don't know with what tone Christine answers! you just interpret it in the way you want to hear it.

Whatever you think about him, it's clear that he wants to make a Mac album, as much open to others as he is able to, (which is limited, I know) but the rest knows that and except his role. He was totally open for using an outside producer, but still Stevie wants to go one way, until now, outside of FM.

That's not very respectful behaviour towards the band. It may be intended otherwise, we'll see. But until now I don't have ANY other information than the facts we know. And that looks ugly.

Christine wasn't talking about Lindsey doing anything for her when she said "absolutely." Michele

Yeah. If Mick accused her of a crime she could sue him for defamation. Saying she won't record with them is not exactly a crime. He is also free to give his opinion of her, even if it is a negative one.

Michele

And in the same interview he's saying that he gave her a music track of his without any words and she made a song out of it, so it sounds like he is acknowledging that she was doing something for him, whether he'd ever phrase it like that or not.

Michele

It was clear to me that he was being ironic and silly with her. It was just some banter and he even brought Stevie into it.

It was funny to my eyes.... I think you kind of read that the same way, no?

I didn't know how he was being really. But I'm relieved she was sitting there and he wasn't just giving an interview by himself saying that. Also, I'm surprised he didn't also point out that she'd burned her bridges.

He's kind of strange. I remember one time he was discussing a game he was playing with Richard. I don't even remember the game, but let me just make up an equivalent like he was saying you went through the letters of the alphabet and you had to write a line based on whatever letter it was. Anyway, what struck me was how he had to say it was a silly game and Richard came up with a lot of drivel, but in the end it was an instructive tool. And I wondered why couldn't he just say it was helpful to begin with? It was almost like he had to suggest that Richard was an idiot first to make his point.

Michele

You might have a point. It kind of goes along with his constant interviews on how he's always had to help SN and CM with their material, and how their solo shows were like lounge acts.

I'm hoping I'm right on this one and he was being silly sarcastic with her. They really seemed to be getting along well. 8 songs of collaboration seems like a lot.

I liked the part in Ken's book where Lindsey comes in and hears what Christine did on YMLF in his absence and was surprised and proud of her. I mean, on one hand, why was he so surprised that something got done without him? On the other, it's nice that he took pleasure in what she did.


Michele

And she wrote some killer material before 1975! Unfortunately, Stevie doesn't have the luxury of having a point in time prior to reference. maybe that is why she is saying she doesn't need him now. Where Christine was established before he came along. You never heard Bob say he had to work Christine's material.

I don' think low of Chris's songwriting abilities or her ability to defend and stand up for herself.It's just that when you're away from your occupation for a long time it takes time to rebuild your confidence and integrity.That goes for anybody,in any field.And I feel that Bucky played on that notion.And Chris is so "happy as a pig in poo" right now that nothing is going to bother her.Had Bucky said that publicly prior to Chris leaving,I believe she would have ripped him a new one and he would have gotten another drink in the face for good measure!That's all I meant...:shrug:

ok, thanks for clarifying what you meant. just came across as implying a wrong impression of Christine, that's all. you know, the same way Lindsey opens his mouth and something wrong-sounding comes out almost every time?! ;)

Thanks for understanding,shackin' up.And you're right-all we can do is speculate about what's going on because,as usual with these 5 fireflies,there's alot more going on behind the scenes that we're not aware of.And Stevie of course loves to add a little drama and mystery to any situation.:nod:

Nightbird is a beautiful song ruined by the lyrics. Much the same way that Illume, Thrown Down, Soldiers Angel are ruined by the lyrics.

My post makes you want to say negative things about Stevie? So, you know he is but what is she?

He could have said "our relationship", or something similar. After commenting positively on collaborating with CM, the implication is that SN is the difficult one. He is a man who chooses his words carefully.

Another example of his passive-aggressive behaviour is in DR, when he says "I own the masters", implying he might take his songs and go home if he doesn't get his way on the double album, without actually threatening to do it.

Point taken:laugh: