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olive 02-01-2015 09:09 AM

I in she could be convinced she was going to make 5 million (her favorite figure) she'll make a record. It amazing how her carefully crafted "ethereal". " down to earth" persona is cracked and her selfish, self centered greedy bitch self is shining brightly

Nick 02-01-2015 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jcalzaretta (Post 1159789)
This will be last studio record. Stevie has been the one band member to keep Fleetwood Mac relevant over the past how many years? She always comes back to the band. There is no way she won't be on the last record. No way. This is partly her legacy too. She has always been loyal to the band and I don't know why people would think this is any different.

Agreed. This would be an insult to the band and the fans if she decided to skip the FM studio album. I'm still hoping for a Fall 2015 release.

bethelblues 02-01-2015 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Nick (Post 1159797)
Agreed. This would be an insult to the band and the fans if she decided to skip the FM studio album. I'm still hoping for a Fall 2015 release.

Just make sure they hit the Grammy deadline, or Lindsey won't be too happy. lol

HomerMcvie 02-01-2015 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by olive (Post 1159790)
It amazing how her carefully crafted "ethereal". " down to earth" persona is cracked and her selfish, self centered greedy bitch self is shining brightly

I couldn't agree more. What a diva she's become.


$%^& her, and the My Little Pony she rode in on!:lol:

bombaysaffires 02-01-2015 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick (Post 1159797)
Agreed. This would be an insult to the band and the fans if she decided to skip the FM studio album. I'm still hoping for a Fall 2015 release.


this is where we need that "Not gonna happen" gif from Nicole.

Waaayyyyyyy too late for a fall release from this band. They couldn't even finish recording by fall even if they started it today.

SteveMacD 02-01-2015 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1159805)
this is where we need that "Not gonna happen" gif from Nicole.

Waaayyyyyyy too late for a fall release from this band. They couldn't even finish recording by fall even if they started it today.

Unless something has changed, Lindsey travels with recording equipment. If Stevie gave him her demos before they left, he could be working on arrangements while on the road so that they could go in and finish the album in a week during that month off between legs in April/May. The album would hit the stores by September/October. It could be done pretty easily.

bombaysaffires 02-01-2015 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1159807)
Unless something has changed, Lindsey travels with recording equipment. If Stevie gave him her demos before they left, he could be working on arrangements while on the road so that they could go in and finish the album in a week during that month off between legs in April/May. The album would hit the stores by September/October. It could be done pretty easily.

yes, technically I agree it could be done, and is done in this kind of timeframe by many bands. But not the way this band works. :mad:

And I don't know if LB does travel with all the same equipment anymore.. I'm sure he has some at all times, but he seems not to hole up in his hotel room on the road like he used to. He gets out and about a lot more. :shrug:

aleuzzi 02-01-2015 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1159805)
this is where we need that "Not gonna happen" gif from Nicole.

Waaayyyyyyy too late for a fall release from this band. They couldn't even finish recording by fall even if they started it today.

So true, and so sad.

Macfanforever 02-01-2015 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1159810)
yes, technically I agree it could be done, and is done in this kind of timeframe by many bands. But not the way this band works. :mad:

And I don't know if LB does travel with all the same equipment anymore.. I'm sure he has some at all times, but he seems not to hole up in his hotel room on the road like he used to. He gets out and about a lot more. :shrug:


Stevie got her 24K done in no time.Leave the BS bickering and song crafting aside and get it done.

The bulk of the recording is mostly done.Right.

If Stevie only has 3 to 4 song to do plus add her oohs and ahhhs to the already done tunes.It should get done .

Nick 02-01-2015 08:05 PM

Tour
 
It appears they have over a month and a half off between shows where they could record.

After their 4/11 show in Las Vegas, they are off until 5/27 where they'll be in the UK.

http://www.pollstar.com/resultsArtis...leetwood%20mac

I know, it's wishful thinking but they (including Stevie solo) have recorded in a shorter period. All you negative b*tches can just suck it......

RockawayBlind 02-01-2015 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1159234)
Hey Stevie,

How's about shutting the hell up with the press about how much you don't like Lindsey, get off your lazy ass, and write three effing songs. Good Lord, in the time you spent bitching about Lindsey, you could've had your contributions to the new Fleetwood Mac album completed.

She can't write a decent song anymore.

Nick 02-01-2015 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RockawayBlind (Post 1159843)
She can't write a decent song anymore.

Who said she has to? She has many unrecorded demos floating around......

RockawayBlind 02-01-2015 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnL (Post 1159468)
Same here...she never claimed to be much of a piano player. I give her props for allowing Rolling Stone to film these as I am sure she was very nervous. And as far as the nasty comments here...they make me chuckle. She can out sing ANYONE in Fleetwood Mac. I don't care who they are...including Christine.

Now that makes me chuckle. She can't hit half the notes on her own songs anymore. Stevie is a has-been.

BlueDenimLamp 02-01-2015 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick (Post 1159837)
It appears they have over a month and a half off between shows where they could record.

After their 4/11 show in Las Vegas, they are off until 5/27 where they'll be in the UK.

http://www.pollstar.com/resultsArtis...leetwood%20mac

I know, it's wishful thinking but they (including Stevie solo) have recorded in a shorter period. All you negative b*tches can just suck it......

Just enough time for Stevie to record SFTV part Deux. If she hurries she could beat the Grammy deadline and have possibly 2 records eligible for nomination.

Sorry but if the FM record happens it probably won't be till 2017. Just in time for the "Farewell" tour.

Macfanforever 02-01-2015 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1159847)
Just enough time for Stevie to record SFTV part Deux. If she hurries she could beat the Grammy deadline and have possibly 2 records eligible for nomination.

Sorry but if the FM record happens it probably won't be till 2017. Just in time for the "Farewell" tour.

The freaking grammys probably ignore them like they always do even if its their last outing.They rather vote for unknowns or some overrated artist or band.

bethelblues 02-01-2015 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1159850)
The freaking grammys probably ignore them like they always do even if its their last outing.They rather vote for unknowns or some overrated artist or band.

They don't ignore U2, Paul McCartney, The Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, etc. It's all PR and reviews. Play up their narratives on TV nonstop and they'll get nominated.

RockawayBlind 02-01-2015 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick (Post 1159845)
Who said she has to? She has many unrecorded demos floating around......

Didn't say she had to. I said she can't. Frankly, she has nothing to contribute. The only reason she can hold the band hostage is because a long time ago she became the face of the band to the fans, and the rest of the band sees their bank accounts shrinking at the prospect of carrying on without her. Sadly, she is the least talented member.

bombaysaffires 02-01-2015 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RockawayBlind (Post 1159854)
Didn't say she had to. I said she can't. Frankly, she has nothing to contribute. The only reason she can hold the band hostage is because a long time ago she became the face of the band to the fans, and the rest of the band sees their bank accounts shrinking at the prospect of carrying on without her. Sadly, she is the least talented member.

of course that's a matter of opinion, and everyone is welcome to their own opinions.

but a fact is that Stevie *is* the most commercial of them all and can sell a lot of tickets. You may believe commercialism is overrated, and you may prefer one of the other members, all well and good, but from a business angle, she still gets the most bums in seats as they say. As many as all 5? -- obviously not. But realistically, the most of any of the 3 singers/writers.:sorry:

This is why she can hold them hostage, sadly.

Nick 02-01-2015 09:07 PM

^It don't matter, she is still the most successful solo member of this band......EVER.

tabruns 02-02-2015 04:47 PM

I think its flat out wrong to assert Nicks can't write a decent song anymore. Her songwriting has really rebounded since the nadir of the Street Angel days. "Trouble In Shangri-La", "Love Is", "Fall From Grace", "Bombay Sapphires", "Say You Will", "Thrown Down", "Destiny Rules", "Illume", "Space Needle", are all excellent songs and are all recent compositions. She went on a tangent writing songs with Dave Stewart for In Your Dreams, and she had limited time so she went with developing demos for 24 Karat Gold, but she obviously can still write very good songs.

bethelblues 02-02-2015 05:17 PM

For Stevie, it's all about the production. I think both she and the band are trying to figure out what they want, and that's where they disagree. There's no doubt they can crank out songs...but what really makes the songs work is how they sound and the overall sound they are going for. I feel that hasn't gelled 100% in a long time.

bombaysaffires 02-02-2015 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by tabruns (Post 1159932)
I think its flat out wrong to assert Nicks can't write a decent song anymore. Her songwriting has really rebounded since the nadir of the Street Angel days. "Trouble In Shangri-La", "Love Is", "Fall From Grace", "Bombay Sapphires", "Say You Will", "Thrown Down", "Destiny Rules", "Illume", "Space Needle", are all excellent songs and are all recent compositions. She went on a tangent writing songs with Dave Stewart for In Your Dreams, and she had limited time so she went with developing demos for 24 Karat Gold, but she obviously can still write very good songs.

isn't Space Needle an oldie (demo) from the vault??

RockawayBlind 02-02-2015 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick (Post 1159858)
^It don't matter, she is still the most successful solo member of this band......EVER.

Right, and all the fans here who keep holding their collective breaths for the band to release new music should rue the day she ever became so successful. Her success doomed the band.

I frankly couldn't care less if FM records ever again, and I don't go to their nostalgia shows because I'd rather hear fresh music, especially if I'm expected to pay a couple hundred dollars for a ticket. I just wish they would end this dance so Lindsey can go back to his solo career and put out music that is far more interesting and gratifying than what this band is likely to produce. If the four-song EP is any indication of the quality of music FM would release in a new album, I would definitely pass.

Overall, this is just such a waste of time. Here you have one of the least prolific, yet famous, bands of all time unable to put out new music -- a band that has inspired countless others and is often held up as a significant contributor to the history of rock. If this is how FM goes out, it's so terribly pathetic and sad. And it's all Stevie's fault.

RockawayBlind 02-02-2015 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tabruns (Post 1159932)
I think its flat out wrong to assert Nicks can't write a decent song anymore. Her songwriting has really rebounded since the nadir of the Street Angel days. "Trouble In Shangri-La", "Love Is", "Fall From Grace", "Bombay Sapphires", "Say You Will", "Thrown Down", "Destiny Rules", "Illume", "Space Needle", are all excellent songs and are all recent compositions. She went on a tangent writing songs with Dave Stewart for In Your Dreams, and she had limited time so she went with developing demos for 24 Karat Gold, but she obviously can still write very good songs.

Even if any of those songs were at the level of Sara, Dreams or Landslide -- which they are not -- they are still more than a decade old. My contention is that right now Stevie can't write a decent song. There's no shame in that. Some writers have brilliant output until their dying breath, while others fade after a burst of brillance. Such is life.

JohnL 02-03-2015 09:19 AM

Please....
 
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Originally Posted by RockawayBlind (Post 1159950)
Even if any of those songs were at the level of Sara, Dreams or Landslide -- which they are not -- they are still more than a decade old. My contention is that right now Stevie can't write a decent song. There's no shame in that. Some writers have brilliant output until their dying breath, while others fade after a burst of brillance. Such is life.

You people on this board act like you speak to the members of the band on an ongoing basis. How do you know she hasn't written an awesome song in the last couple of months? And as far as everything being Stevie's fault...you are probably right. She is the main reason they are still touring and making millions of dollars. If they didn't have that, Lindsey Buckingham (who most everyone I know thinks is a pompous ass and cant handle when anyone else in the band is the center of attention) wouldn't be able to even put out that music. He wouldn't the money or the backing without all this touring with FM. I hope Stevie does walk away from this band...just to give you people what you supposedly want. And then FM will be never heard from again in any major way...but Stevie will.

jbrownsjr 02-03-2015 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnL (Post 1159959)
You people on this board act like you speak to the members of the band on an ongoing basis. How do you know she hasn't written an awesome song in the last couple of months? And as far as everything being Stevie's fault...you are probably right. She is the main reason they are still touring and making millions of dollars. If they didn't have that, Lindsey Buckingham (who most everyone I know thinks is a pompous ass and cant handle when anyone else in the band is the center of attention) wouldn't be able to even put out that music. He wouldn't the money or the backing without all this touring with FM. I hope Stevie does walk away from this band...just to give you people what you supposedly want. And then FM will be never heard from again in any major way...but Stevie will.

I believe Christine is the main reason they are touring. :lol:

olive 02-03-2015 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1159961)
I believe Christine is the main reason they are touring. :lol:

no it'$ not

jbrownsjr 02-03-2015 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by olive (Post 1159962)
no it'$ not

touche! :eek:

BlueDenimLamp 02-03-2015 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnL (Post 1159959)
You people on this board act like you speak to the members of the band on an ongoing basis. How do you know she hasn't written an awesome song in the last couple of months? And as far as everything being Stevie's fault...you are probably right. She is the main reason they are still touring and making millions of dollars. If they didn't have that, Lindsey Buckingham (who most everyone I know thinks is a pompous ass and cant handle when anyone else in the band is the center of attention) wouldn't be able to even put out that music. He wouldn't the money or the backing without all this touring with FM. I hope Stevie does walk away from this band...just to give you people what you supposedly want. And then FM will be never heard from again in any major way...but Stevie will.

Remember when Warner Brothers gave Stevie a record deal but told LB they were not interested in his songs but maybe he could put them on the next FM record :lol:

If FM had broken up or Stevie had walked away during the "Rumours" days LB probably would have been replaced or quit just like the many before or after him and the name "Lindsey Buckingham" would be a long forgotten side note in the history of FM. Stevie would have hade a successful solo career since the ground work to set Stevie up as a "solo artist along with early recordings for her first record were already being set up long before "Tusk" came out.

BlueDenimLamp 02-03-2015 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1159961)
I believe Christine is the main reason they are touring. :lol:

On this tour yes...If CM had not returned you would probably not be hearing from FM until 2016 or 2017.

RockawayBlind 02-03-2015 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1159965)
Remember when Warner Brothers gave Stevie a record deal but told LB they were not interested in his songs but maybe he could put them on the next FM record :lol:

If FM had broken up or Stevie had walked away during the "Rumours" days LB probably would have been replaced or quit just like the many before or after him and the name "Lindsey Buckingham" would be a long forgotten side note in the history of FM. Stevie would have hade a successful solo career since the ground work to set Stevie up as a "solo artist along with early recordings for her first record were already being set up long before "Tusk" came out.

Hard to say. Lindsey could have had a successful career as a producer. He was sought out by a number of artists at the time. He might have joined a band with the kind of music he was more interested in doing at the time. Or he might well have found his right place to fade.

Stevie might or might not have had a successful solo career. If she hadn't teamed up with Jimmy Iovine, and instead some sycophantic producer, it could have all gone very differently. Jimmy kept her grounded. She was just lucky that early on she happened to sleep with two great producers -- Lindsey and Jimmy -- who had great instincts for her song sketches. But it's all speculation. Who knows what would have happened?

sasja 02-03-2015 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RockawayBlind (Post 1159949)
Right, and all the fans here who keep holding their collective breaths for the band to release new music should rue the day she ever became so successful. Her success doomed the band.

I frankly couldn't care less if FM records ever again, and I don't go to their nostalgia shows because I'd rather hear fresh music, especially if I'm expected to pay a couple hundred dollars for a ticket. I just wish they would end this dance so Lindsey can go back to his solo career and put out music that is far more interesting and gratifying than what this band is likely to produce. If the four-song EP is any indication of the quality of music FM would release in a new album, I would definitely pass.

Overall, this is just such a waste of time. Here you have one of the least prolific, yet famous, bands of all time unable to put out new music -- a band that has inspired countless others and is often held up as a significant contributor to the history of rock. If this is how FM goes out, it's so terribly pathetic and sad. And it's all Stevie's fault.

:nod::nod::nod: :wavey:

jbrownsjr 02-03-2015 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1159967)
On this tour yes...If CM had not returned you would probably not be hearing from FM until 2016 or 2017.

That was my point, exactly.

jbrownsjr 02-03-2015 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by RockawayBlind (Post 1159970)
Hard to say. Lindsey could have had a successful career as a producer. He was sought out by a number of artists at the time. He might have joined a band with the kind of music he was more interested in doing at the time. Or he might well have found his right place to fade.

Stevie might or might not have had a successful solo career. If she hadn't teamed up with Jimmy Iovine, and instead some sycophantic producer, it could have all gone very differently. Jimmy kept her grounded. She was just lucky that early on she happened to sleep with two great producers -- Lindsey and Jimmy -- who had great instincts for her song sketches. But it's all speculation. Who knows what would have happened?

You're exactly right. What if's will always go the way of the fan's "agenda".

teedeerocks 02-03-2015 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1159961)
I believe Christine is the main reason they are touring. :lol:

this quote and Olive's "no it'$ not"are made up of different words but are identical - Christine = $

jbrownsjr 02-03-2015 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by teedeerocks (Post 1159977)
this quote and Olive's "no it'$ not"are made up of different words but are identical - Christine = $

Her presence certainly up'd the ticket prices and attendance.

teedeerocks 02-03-2015 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1159967)
On this tour yes...If CM had not returned you would probably not be hearing from FM until 2016 or 2017.

You got that right.FM were just here in 2013.They have no new music to promote,so why else would they be touring?And they should be ashamed of themselves if putting the bimbos up front was their idea b/c it shows nothing but disrespect to the REAL fans who paid out the ass to see a show consisting of the same selist as last year except for Chris's songs.I still can't figure out why I love them so damn much.They're a bunch of crazy,mixed up,dysfunctional,and last but not least,ungrateful people.The same goes for their management:mad:.But at the same time,we can't NOT go to one of their shows when they're in town.Anyone interested in group therapy?:shrug:;)

olive 02-03-2015 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by teedeerocks (Post 1159982)
You got that right.FM were just here in 2013.They have no new music to promote,so why else would they be touring?A;)

Stevie did it for 10 years with little or no changes to
her set list

RockawayBlind 02-03-2015 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1159974)
You're exactly right. What if's will always go the way of the fan's "agenda".

Right. And let's not forget what she told Jimmy when she teamed up with him. She wanted to sound like Tom Petty, who was becoming wildly popular. Even that instruction to Jimmy seems to have been a calculated move for commercial reasons. Regardless, Bella Donna is an excellent record and, to me, still her best.

RockawayBlind 02-03-2015 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by teedeerocks (Post 1159982)
You got that right.FM were just here in 2013.They have no new music to promote,so why else would they be touring?And they should be ashamed of themselves if putting the bimbos up front was their idea b/c it shows nothing but disrespect to the REAL fans who paid out the ass to see a show consisting of the same selist as last year except for Chris's songs.I still can't figure out why I love them so damn much.They're a bunch of crazy,mixed up,dysfunctional,and last but not least,ungrateful people.The same goes for their management:mad:.But at the same time,we can't NOT go to one of their shows when they're in town.Anyone interested in group therapy?:shrug:;)

See, that's where I differ with a lot of fans. I will not pay to see a nostalgia show. The last FM show I saw was in 2005 or 2006. I've seen Lindsey on every tour except One Man Show -- and I sat that out for the same reasons: Give me something new or stay off the stage.


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