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amber 09-16-2004 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Nah, I don't have to read it. I've been around long enough to have read Miss Teedee's posts many a time, I know the what the usual content is: to tell me I'm so wrong and off-base, and blah blah blah. That song was sung. ;)

And yet, you judged it anyway....but, yeah, i don't like to read criticism of my points, either, but then if don't read them, I don't presume to judge them...
AMber

amber 09-16-2004 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Amber, I probably litter my posts with "IMO" more than anyone else on this board. Fact is, there has been a little group of people around here who rarely post, and when they do, post only to argue with me. Kind of the same behavior that Carne was supposedly banned for...carping and harrassment. It's rather ridiculous. You're falling into the same rut in this here thread. :wavey:

no because i post about everything. i don't post just to argue with you. And if you say, for instance, "you are an ignoramus and everything you say is crap, IMO" , that IMO is pretty meaningless. and that's often the way you phrase things, imo ;) And Carne was banned for being insulting, like that, while he is carping. Teedee did not call you names - he/she simply argued with your points, without turning to name calling, or really saying anything rude. I mean, I like you, I liked Carne, but I still think you're both incredibly, uh, rude? controversial? sometimes, and feel it's just fine to voice my opinion about that. After all, you never hold back from saying exactly what you think, you shouldn't care or be suprised if people argue with you. And when you don't like people arguing with you, and you try to say "you're carping on me and harrassing me" or "end of story" well, who are you to say when it's time for everyone else to be quiet, and stop talking about what you posted? If you can't take the argue, then don't answer, right? IMO :xoxo:
AMber

Sugar 09-16-2004 05:09 PM

Exactly when did this thread about CarneVaca become the "What we hate about Dissention" thread?

Seriously.

Sugar 09-16-2004 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
Am I supposed to be different, and just ignore whatever he says, or walk on eggshells...I'm sorry if I upset you...
AMber



I don't think anyone expects you to be different.

amber 09-16-2004 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Sugar
I don't think anyone expects you to be different.

:woohoo: :woohoo: Wooohoooo!!
I mean, sugar, maybe a lot of people aren't the type to argue if they disagree, but I sometimes will...which it seems like only a few girls on the ledge are like that....But, to me, Diss argues all the time, too :thumbsup:
Anyway... :p :wavey:
AMber

dissention 09-16-2004 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
no because i post about everything. i don't post just to argue with you. And if you say, for instance, "you are an ignoramus and everything you say is crap, IMO" , that IMO is pretty meaningless. and that's often the way you phrase things, imo ;) And Carne was banned for being insulting, like that, while he is carping. Teedee did not call you names - he/she simply argued with your points, without turning to name calling, or really saying anything rude. I mean, I like you, I liked Carne, but I still think you're both incredibly, uh, rude? controversial? sometimes, and feel it's just fine to voice my opinion about that. After all, you never hold back from saying exactly what you think, you shouldn't care or be suprised if people argue with you. And when you don't like people arguing with you, and you try to say "you're carping on me and harrassing me" or "end of story" well, who are you to say when it's time for everyone else to be quiet, and stop talking about what you posted? If you can't take the argue, then don't answer, right? IMO :xoxo:
AMber

There you go, making things up...the same thing you accused me of doing. ;)

I would NEVER say "you are an ignoramus and everything you say is crap, IMO." I may call someone out and tell them they're talking out of their ass when it's obvious that they are, but I would never go to the extent that you claim I would.

I can take any argument, my dear, I just call out hypocrisy when I see it, same with bull****. Which is beginning to stink up this thread. :wavey:

dissention 09-16-2004 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sugar
Exactly when did this thread about CarneVaca become the "What we hate about Dissention" thread?

Seriously.

:laugh:

When Teedee, in all her infinite wisdom, piped up. I'm waiting for my friends Christopher and snwriter to show up. snwriter can tell us more stories about how Stevie sold out Madison Square Garden because she was there...just to prove me wrong. :laugh:

teedee 09-16-2004 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Amber, I probably litter my posts with "IMO" more than anyone else on this board. Fact is, there has been a little group of people around here who rarely post, and when they do, post only to argue with me. Kind of the same behavior that Carne was supposedly banned for...carping and harrassment. It's rather ridiculous. You're falling into the same rut in this here thread. :wavey:




And when you post dis, your posts arent in the same manner? now we are harrassing you? no, we disagree with you and you see that as harrassment. so only you post the whole truth and we only post half truths. please you love to instigate, by the manner of your posts and your response. you know what you say and how you say it will trigger a response. if anything , you are the one following in cv's footsteps. please dont spin it around that we only want to fight with you. if you post, expect people to reply with a different point of view and if they agree with you thats fine to. and if i have to post IMO to make it all mean something to you well then i guess i failed to see that in the rules. that "IMO" has no bearing on anything other than its just your opinion, which you are entitled to. but so arent all of us as well.

teedee 09-16-2004 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Nah, I don't have to read it. I've been around long enough to have read Miss Teedee's posts many a time, I know the what the usual content is: to tell me I'm so wrong and off-base, and blah blah blah. That song was sung. ;)


its been sung, and its also been covered by many, including your self,. IMO lol , oh and your posts dont tell others they are wrong, because its just your "IMO" lol too funny

teedee 09-16-2004 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
:laugh:

When Teedee, in all her infinite wisdom, piped up. I'm waiting for my friends Christopher and snwriter to show up. snwriter can tell us more stories about how Stevie sold out Madison Square Garden because she was there...just to prove me wrong. :laugh:





Dont blame me , I never said i hated diss, not once. now use your post above, you call it as you see and and no one else can. you make comments , in all my infinite wisdom, how sweet of you , and yet you expect ppl not to respond to you in a negative way. we know you dont mean things as compliments. and if you want to talk about carping and harrassing, and name calling and following in the footsteps of your dismissed mentor, look no further than your mirror. I have no hate towards you at all. i can take all you can give, I always consider the source, and know exactly what to expect but it tends to get very boring very fast when you know what to expect.

sara1998 09-16-2004 10:36 PM

I've never seen so damn much arguing over **** before in my life. I wish I had all of the energy spent on this board arguing with eachother so I could go to work, play with my kid, and clean my house all in one day. How can you all let yourselves be caught up in a constant cyber-arguement? I suppose I'm using my "house cleaning-kid playing-going to work" energy reading it all, but I'll admit, it is amusing....

Carry on....

Maria

Janet 09-17-2004 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Sugar
Exactly when did this thread about CarneVaca become the "What we hate about Dissention" thread?

Seriously.


Exactly, when did it? This was supposed to be CV, which I think has been explained to death and now it's about dissention. I think we just should let this all go and let this thread DIE already!

This is way too personal and the personal attacks are getting out of hand.

I'm asking if you guys could just keep it to PM's or just stop altogether...before it gets way , way out of hand!
THANK YOU!!

shackin'up 09-17-2004 03:08 AM

Moderators,
 
Can I request to close this thread?

Hawkeye 09-17-2004 08:43 PM

Well this thread dying is basicallya metaphore for CV dying on this board. And closing it would be nailing the coffin shut, since this thread is basically the funeral (The most unholy funeral in history :laugh: , I want a funeral like this :laugh: )

Mari 09-18-2004 02:25 AM

then leaving this thread open would be like a tombstone that everyone can visit, right? :angel:

paleshadow 09-18-2004 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sara1998
I've never seen so damn much arguing over **** before in my life. I wish I had all of the energy spent on this board arguing with eachother so I could go to work, play with my kid, and clean my house all in one day. How can you all let yourselves be caught up in a constant cyber-arguement? I suppose I'm using my "house cleaning-kid playing-going to work" energy reading it all, but I'll admit, it is amusing....

Carry on....

Maria


Seriously. I mean, it's just a message board. I hope no one is losing sleep over this. What's stopping him from just registering with a new screen name anyway? I mean it's not like he's been deported, so let's put things in perspective. I'm sure Carne, and the rest of his incarnations aren't that worked up anymore. I'd hope so anyway.

HomerMcvie 09-18-2004 11:52 AM

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then leaving this thread open would be like a tombstone that everyone can visit, right?
But doesn't anything else reek of censorship? No thanks. If you don't like it, then don't read it. Freedom of choice.

Janet 09-18-2004 01:10 PM

I don't think it should be closed.

I just hope that people understand what happened and move on. Unfortunately, it's the way it is and it can't be reversed.

I vote just to keep it open...

musiclover 09-18-2004 06:19 PM

Well a couple of days ago, I saw Carne on the BuckinghamNicks board.

Mari 09-19-2004 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie
But doesn't anything else reek of censorship? No thanks. If you don't like it, then don't read it. Freedom of choice.

eh well, that is my point actually. Leave it open so everyone interested can read it.

shackin'up 09-19-2004 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Janet
I don't think it should be closed.

I just hope that people understand what happened and move on. Unfortunately, it's the way it is and it can't be reversed.

I vote just to keep it open...

I thought you asked to let it die.
That was the reason for my question to close it, cause a moderator suggesting to die a thread could as well close it. Two months ago I would have been in the position to delete a thread, cause I started it. I just don't like the idea that moderators ask to let a thread die. Close it or leave it. Nothing personal, Janet, I normally like your contributions.
Yes, I like the idea of a tombstone. Let's keep it alive.

HomerMcvie 09-19-2004 10:48 AM

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eh well, that is my point actually. Leave it open so everyone interested can read it.
Sorry Mari, at my first (and only) read, I thought you didn't want the tombstone here. My bad.
RIP Carne. :shrug:

rianbay1 09-22-2004 01:46 AM

Carne Vaca...Good riddance, I say. :sorry:

Janet 09-23-2004 10:18 PM

I said let it die because I would hope everyone has an understanding and doesn't argue it anymore.

I want it to stay up for anyone who hasn't been around and has questions. Simple as that:)

The Tower 10-01-2004 07:54 PM

I just happened to click on "Who's online?" and who do I see, but CarneVaca, looking at The Ledge index.

What's up with that??? Interesting.........

amber 10-01-2004 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower
I just happened to click on "Who's online?" and who do I see, but CarneVaca, looking at The Ledge index.

What's up with that??? Interesting.........

Cooooooool.....Hi Carne, you great big!@#$%%!! :xoxo: :laugh:

Hawkeye 10-03-2004 09:56 PM

I'm guessing it's another person using the name CV since he's banned someone else can use the name.

amber 10-03-2004 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye
I'm guessing it's another person using the name CV since he's banned someone else can use the name.

oh. that's weird, who' want to use that name?

The Tower 10-04-2004 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye
I'm guessing it's another person using the name CV since he's banned someone else can use the name.

Nope. If you go check his public profile, it says this.

"Last Activity: 10-01-2004 05:38 PM"

That activity was viewing the index when I saw it.

amber 10-04-2004 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by The Tower
Nope. If you go check his public profile, it says this.

"Last Activity: 10-01-2004 05:38 PM"

That activity was viewing the index when I saw it.

How does he do that if he's banned?

Hawkeye 10-04-2004 09:14 PM

OK I stand corrected. Good for Carne

Nixxxed 10-05-2004 03:25 PM

Could it just be that he's (very appropriately) banned from posting, not viewing?

amber 10-05-2004 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nixxxed
Could it just be that he's (very appropriately) banned from posting, not viewing?

Right, but i thought it meant he couldn't sign in with his name...I dunno, though.


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