The Ledge

The Ledge (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/index.php)
-   Rumours (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/forumdisplay.php?f=2)
-   -   Stevie's attitude (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=54643)

jkmaletic 12-07-2014 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turn It On (Post 1155561)
I agree that she has a lemming-like fansbase, but I actually think what's worse is the people who dislike OSOTM, Street Angel, and that whole period of her work simply because Stevie herself has now practically disowned it. That's just blindly following whatever she says.

Maybe I'm just being defensive because I really like OSOTM. I hate Bella Donna, though...

Druggie days aside, I dislike Street Angel simply because it makes me cringe when I hear it. Just bad music, IMO. That album is an embarrassment.

On Ice 12-07-2014 12:56 PM

Quote:

Druggie days aside, I dislike Street Angel simply because it makes me cringe when I hear it. Just bad music, IMO. That album is an embarrassment.
Stevie fandom evolved into pretty much to each his/her own. Heck, even back in the "classic" days she faced some pretty harsh criticism. Many critics did not "get" those early Rhiannon exorcisms, so now we as the established fan-base likewise will see things through our own lens.

Street Angel for example is seen as Stevie's dud whereas I see the album as good in some spots but suffering from lack of inspiration but by no means an embarrassment. She turned in some amazing vocals in that period and with the right producer, could've been really on fire. I'm puzzled as to what happened between Desiree and the '92 Mirror/Mirror and would've expected the same fiery performances throughout the album, but instead, very spotty, but not a complete disaster.

Again, to each their own opinion, none of us are completely right or completely wrong either.:thumbsup:

jbrownsjr 12-07-2014 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1155552)
Well, I think OSOTM is pretty good, tbh. But I surely don't think she can do no wrong.

Michele

I've gotten blasted for liking it. But, I too like OSOTM.

HomerMcvie 12-07-2014 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1155552)
Well, I think OSOTM is pretty good, tbh. But I surely don't think she can do no wrong.

Michele

I think BD is awesome. A classic album that stands the test of time. I LOVE it.

WH - It's pretty damned good. Mostly good songs.

RAL - Meh, I made myself learn to "like" it.

OSOTM - WTF? I listened and listened for a couple of months, and just decided that it SUCKED. That she'd LOST her gift...

Notice how(IMO) each album was about half the quality of the previous effort? OSOTM was the last Stevie solo album I ever bought. And I've been given copies of her newer ones...meh!

Maybe Jimmy Iovine could pull a decent one out of her now?

HomerMcvie 12-07-2014 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1155582)
I've gotten blasted for liking it. But, I too like OSOTM.

Dude, don't make me blast you. :eek:

:lol::lol::lol:

jbrownsjr 12-07-2014 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1155584)
Dude, don't make me blast you. :eek:

:lol::lol::lol:

I like the guitar on Rooms On Fire, I like Book of Miracles/Juliet.. I like Bruce Hornsby.. there's a few others I like on there.. It's been so long.. :lol:

HomerMcvie 12-07-2014 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1155585)
I like the guitar on Rooms On Fire, I like Book of Miracles/Juliet.. I like Bruce Hornsby.. there's a few others I like on there.. It's been so long.. :lol:

Not long enough!!!:lol::lol::lol:

michelej1 12-07-2014 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1155582)
I've gotten blasted for liking it. But, I too like OSOTM.

I think I may like OSOTM better than BD. But Wild Heart is my favorite.

Michele

HomerMcvie 12-07-2014 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1155590)
I think I may like OSOTM better than BD. But Wild Heart is my favorite.

Michele

My god, I'll never understand how anyone couldn't LOVE BD. The record sounds like she's fronting the Eagles.

Yeah, I guess it's a little too classic rock sounding for people who like dance music. But it's right up my alley!

secret love 12-07-2014 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by On Ice (Post 1155577)
Stevie fandom evolved into pretty much to each his/her own. Heck, even back in the "classic" days she faced some pretty harsh criticism. Many critics did not "get" those early Rhiannon exorcisms, so now we as the established fan-base likewise will see things through our own lens.

Street Angel for example is seen as Stevie's dud whereas I see the album as good in some spots but suffering from lack of inspiration but by no means an embarrassment. She turned in some amazing vocals in that period and with the right producer, could've been really on fire. I'm puzzled as to what happened between Desiree and the '92 Mirror/Mirror and would've expected the same fiery performances throughout the album, but instead, very spotty, but not a complete disaster.

Again, to each their own opinion, none of us are completely right or completely wrong either.:thumbsup:

I have never really understood why Street Angel was so universally panned by music critics and fans alike. I know that Stevie had to rely on other people to help her write enough songs. Still, Docklands is a gorgeous song, even though Stevie didn't write it! It was just made for her...a very sexy song.

Blue Denim...another great song.

The title track is not bad at all either. I particularly enjoyed listening to Stevie explain on radio how she wrote this song about how she will never know what it's like to live on the streets. She wanted to put herself in the shoes of a homeless girl, walk around in them for a while and see what it felt like. Just goes to show what an empathetic and caring a person she is that she can write a story like Street Angel.

Let's talk vocal quality. On Street Angel, it is, let's be frank, way better than the vocals on any solo album she has released since! When she recorded the vocals for Street Angel, Stevie was most definitely at that point just before her singing ability plateaued. Stevie's vocals on The Dance are roughly equal in quality to those on the Street Angel album.

Since 2001 she has only fleetingly delivered the powerhouse vocals that first made her famous. She seems too afraid of ever attempting to sing Dreams live in its original key, which is a shame.

Macfan4life 12-09-2014 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1155604)
I have never really understood why Street Angel was so universally panned by music critics and fans alike. I know that Stevie had to rely on other people to help her write enough songs. Still, Docklands is a gorgeous song, even though Stevie didn't write it! It was just made for her...a very sexy song.

Blue Denim...another great song.

The title track is not bad at all either. I particularly enjoyed listening to Stevie explain on radio how she wrote this song about how she will never know what it's like to live on the streets. She wanted to put herself in the shoes of a homeless girl, walk around in them for a while and see what it felt like. Just goes to show what an empathetic and caring a person she is that she can write a story like Street Angel.

Let's talk vocal quality. On Street Angel, it is, let's be frank, way better than the vocals on any solo album she has released since! When she recorded the vocals for Street Angel, Stevie was most definitely at that point just before her singing ability plateaued. Stevie's vocals on The Dance are roughly equal in quality to those on the Street Angel album.

Since 2001 she has only fleetingly delivered the powerhouse vocals that first made her famous. She seems too afraid of ever attempting to sing Dreams live in its original key, which is a shame.

I agree 100% Street Angel is a great album. Her vocals are STRONG and the album rocks big time. Its rock n roll with a bit of country. Just because an album does not sell does not mean it is a bad album. I think that is what Stevie thinks too.

Love: Listen to the rain! Love: Maybe Love will change your mind Love: Greta and Love: Love is like a river Love: Blue Denim and Rose Garden!

Not crazy about Kick it or Docklands or Unconditional Love

One of my favorite Stevie albums!!!!

On Ice 12-10-2014 09:08 AM

Quote:

I agree 100% Street Angel is a great album. Her vocals are STRONG and the album rocks big time. Its rock n roll with a bit of country. Just because an album does not sell does not mean it is a bad album. I think that is what Stevie thinks too.

Love: Listen to the rain! Love: Maybe Love will change your mind Love: Greta and Love: Love is like a river Love: Blue Denim and Rose Garden!

Not crazy about Kick it or Docklands or Unconditional Love

One of my favorite Stevie albums!!!!
I agree. Street Angel is not the dud it's made out to be and my personal belief is that the hate for the album, including Stevie herself has more to do with how "she" was during the time, her appearance, state of mind etc than the actual performances. Granted it could have been even better with a more competent producer but there is absolutely nothing wrong with her vocals on the album, (save for the forgotten chimpanzee) they're rich in tone and texture, she's in an overall clear voice, and her live performances during the period are even better.

tabruns 12-11-2014 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1155707)
I agree 100% Street Angel is a great album. Her vocals are STRONG and the album rocks big time. Its rock n roll with a bit of country. Just because an album does not sell does not mean it is a bad album. I think that is what Stevie thinks too.

Love: Listen to the rain! Love: Maybe Love will change your mind Love: Greta and Love: Love is like a river Love: Blue Denim and Rose Garden!

Not crazy about Kick it or Docklands or Unconditional Love

One of my favorite Stevie albums!!!!

It's true that Nicks has said that great albums don't necessarily sell well, particularly today. She does, however, consider Street Angel to be her only "bad" album (she's made several comments about this), but, be that as it may its still subjective: If you love it, you love it.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:17 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© 1995-2003 Martin and Lisa Adelson, All Rights Reserved