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trackaghost 02-27-2009 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kennation (Post 800482)
yes! I go to many concerts... Last October... at Madonna... PEOPLE STAYED IN THEIR AREA!!! No one was being rude to anyone else! Alanis Morissette? Everyone stayed in their place- no one got crazy. Of course we all danced and had fun, but no one rushed up to the end of the stage. No one got pushed around. Everyone was respectful of everyone else because they have common sense.That's the difference in chaos and having a good time. It seems as though Ledgies want chaos. I don't do chaos. I have been to concerts ALL MY LIFE... and have NEVER acted the way some of these posts have described. Never.

That's only two though.

I think you are blowing it out of proportion. I seriously doubt there is going to be chaos at a Fleetwood Mac show :laugh: Just the band allowing some people to stand at the front of the stage and a few that will sneak up.
Maybe you have the band confused with Napalm Death or something. :laugh:

kennation 02-27-2009 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Zombie (Post 800485)
All right, then, I think perhaps it would do good for you to go back and read this thread again with a more critical eye. No one is advocating chaos - it's been said repeatedly that you should be respectful and courteous and not shove.

Also, persons in wheelchairs are not, as a rule, seated on the floor. There are special seating areas for those people. And the entire floor does not have to sit down just because one or two people cannot stand for the whole show. That's why there are different seating levels and seating areas.

No one need get hurt, no one need be disrespectful, but an entire arena floor need not also cater to the whims of one or two individuals.

Calm thyself.
Ok... Read your own statement... Now think about it... Did I say that everyone needed to set down? No. Did I say that the entire floor should follow the whims of one or two individuals? Nope. People get hurt by this common, general admission mentality. So... maybe you should calm yourself. When people are trying to move up to the edge of the stage and shouldn't be... That is chaos. When people have, "tricks" to sneak upfront... That is CHAOS... So, tell me... What do you call a statement that stated rules don't apply at Rock concerts? Chaos. My statement is that it's not general admission down there and I will make sure that I get MY money's worth. And I will. No worries.

kennation 02-27-2009 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by trackaghost (Post 800486)
That's only two though.

I think you are blowing it out of proportion. I seriously doubt there is going to be chaos at a Fleetwood Mac show :laugh: Just the band allowing some people to stand at the front of the stage and a few that will sneak up.
Maybe you have the band confused with Napalm Death or something. :laugh:
I have been to more than 5 concerts in the last 6 months and no one behaved like that. I am not blowing anything out of proportion. I am not down with people from rows behind me moving upfront. I am not. If I were in the third row, I would feel the same way. And I am gonna add some smiley faces so that I can be passive-aggressive as well :thumbsup::xoxo::p LOL

skcin 02-27-2009 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by trackaghost (Post 800432)
This is key, I think, in a crowd you may well have paid a lot of your seat but if everyone wants to stand then you just have to accept it. No amount of complaining is going to make a couple of hundred people sit down for the few who want to remain seated. Anyone who does want to sit I'd advise strongly against floor seats anyway, you'll have more chance of sitting and keeping your view in the side or balcony seats. At the Neil Diamond concert I went to last year (read: not exactly an audience full of spring chickens, I may have been the youngest person there), EVERYONE sitting in the floor seats stood the moment the Diamond man hit the stage and, aside from a couple of acoustic numbers, remained standing throughout.
ITA.

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Originally Posted by kennation (Post 800479)
Here is an idea you send me the money we spent, WHICH IS NO DOUBT more than YOU and you can be in my space all you want, how about that? .
Doesn't mean you're entitled to more than other fans, who didn't buy a package but got a better seat.

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Originally Posted by Zombie (Post 800485)
All right, then, I think perhaps it would do good for you to go back and read this thread again with a more critical eye. No one is advocating chaos - it's been said repeatedly that you should be respectful and courteous and not shove.

No one need get hurt, no one need be disrespectful, but an entire arena floor need not also cater to the whims of one or two individuals.

Calm thyself.
No ****.

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Originally Posted by kennation (Post 799959)
Please tell me if it is like a mosh pit deal? With I have someone sweating, sneezing, or crying in my ear... PLEASE tell me that I will not have to throw elbows at the concert... We paid huge money for this and i don't want to have to fight to have MY place... you know?
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Originally Posted by kennation (Post 800042)
Is it standard practice for all theatres? This would bite HARDCORE! If I get a front row seat there is no way, after spending this much money someone is gonna elbow me all night. Or me not have a good time because of someone's B.O. Or having to stand my ground. This upsets me. I am slowly loosing heart with this situation.

And how does that work? Do people get ushered up rows? Or are the seats taken away? Will we have to stand the entire time? I have questions and I am freaking out a little bit... PLEASE HELP! LOL :laugh:
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Originally Posted by kennation (Post 800226)
FOR REAL! I am gonna talk to Security before, and during the show. No one is going to be in my space. I am not down with that. I almost want to call up the venue and ask. Or at leasts prepare myself if that's business usual. We didn't pay that much money to have to fight all night, forget it! That just does not fly with me. :sorry: I will rat you out in a heartbeat. I just have this thing about my space. I don't know why, I just do.
Dude, seriously. Good luck on the floor. Hopefully you'll be in row 5 or 6 & you won't have to worry abouit anyone invading your space.

kennation 02-27-2009 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by skcin (Post 800492)
Dude, seriously. Good luck on the floor. Hopefully you'll be in row 5 or 6 & you won't have to worry abouit anyone invading your space.
Thanks! I keep saying to myself, "It will be fine. No worries. I get to meet Mick and that's enough..." I said earlier that I hope I get seats further back, but I am sure it will all be ok. I trust that it will not get crazy. Most of you all trump me, in age, by YEARS so I think I could hold my own. Being that FM fans are so much older I should be in great shape. Older people are pretty mellow.

By the way, I am not saying people who paid more should get the right to move up before anyone else. I am saying that the seat listed on your ticket is the place where you should stay. Do what you want, in YOUR area.

By the way, your "NO sh*t" comment wasn't necessary. Seriously.

trackaghost 02-27-2009 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by kennation (Post 800491)
I have been to more than 5 concerts in the last 6 months and no one behaved like that. I am not blowing anything out of proportion. I am not down with people from rows behind me moving upfront. I am not. If I were in the third row, I would feel the same way. And I am gonna add some smiley faces so that I can be passive-aggressive as well :thumbsup::xoxo::p LOL
Wow, a whole five concerts huh? And before I wasn't being trying to rile you I was genuinely amused that you, as a person who has said he's seen the band before, think there is going to be chaos at a Fleetwood Mac concert. Have you even heard of chaos at a Mac concert even during the height of their fame? The fact is the BAND like the first few rows to stand in front of the stage, you just have to deal with it and the likelihood is that no one other than the first few rows will be the ones there. The couple of people here talking about trying to make it to the front are the exception to the rule: most people stay in their seat. I don't see the point in getting into a hissy fit because one or two people might, but probably won't be able to, sneak up.

kennation 02-27-2009 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by trackaghost (Post 800494)
Wow, a whole five concerts huh? And before I wasn't being trying to rile you I was genuinely amused that you, as a person who has said he's seen the band before, think there is going to be chaos at a Fleetwood Mac concert. Have you even heard of chaos at a Mac concert even during the height of their fame? The fact is the BAND like the first few rows to stand in front of the stage, you just have to deal with it and the likelihood is that no one other than the first few rows will be the ones there. The couple of people here talking about trying to make it to the front are the exception to the rule: most people stay in their seat. I don't see the point in getting into a hissy fit because one or two people might, but probably won't be able to, sneak up.
You go to more than 5 concerts in a 6 month period? Then WOW... What do you do for a living? I have seen the band and thought that it would be like the Dance. At the Conesco Field House people were a little crazy, but very chaotic. Wasn't there a fist fight in Reno??? That sounds pretty chaotic to me. I had no idea that they let up to 5 rows up there. I am thinking, there cannot be that much room. I am not throwing a hissy fit. I just think that these replies are condenscending (example: your, "wow" comment...") and that makes me question why I still log on to this site. It's almost petty. And sad.

Zombie 02-27-2009 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by kennation (Post 800488)
Ok... Read your own statement... Now think about it... Did I say that everyone needed to set down? No. Did I say that the entire floor should follow the whims of one or two individuals? Nope. People get hurt by this common, general admission mentality. So... maybe you should calm yourself. When people are trying to move up to the edge of the stage and shouldn't be... That is chaos. When people have, "tricks" to sneak upfront... That is CHAOS... So, tell me... What do you call a statement that stated rules don't apply at Rock concerts? Chaos. My statement is that it's not general admission down there and I will make sure that I get MY money's worth. And I will. No worries.
I'm not the one having a fit here so I don't need to calm anything, chief. Nor am I worried, particularly since your interesting sense of self-righteousness will apparently be nowhere near my Mac show on Sunday.

You do seem to have a very different idea of what constitutes as "chaos" from the rest of the planet, though.

I'm just sayin.'

trackaghost 02-27-2009 05:08 PM
To be fair Kennation the amount you paid to go to that one Mac show is probably more than the budget for my whole concert-going year, and yes, I do go to a lot of shows, lots of different types too and I've rarely, if ever, seen what could be described as chaos at any of them, even at the metal shows I've attended. I don't think one fist fight at one show out of all the dates is particularly chaotic.
Honestly, you are going to go to this show and enjoy yourself so much. You shouldn't spoil it for yourself or the people you are with by worrying if someone is going to sneak out of their seat or not. And the likelihood is they won't be able to anyway.

TheScoop 02-27-2009 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by kennation (Post 800479)
Here is an idea you send me the money we spent, WHICH IS NO DOUBT more than YOU and you can be in my space all you want, how about that?
Oh, I have no doubt you spent more than what I did for my ticket. I picked up a second row center seat just the other day for face value. Let's hope all those extra hundreds you spent on meeting Mick got you a place in front of me, although I wouldn't bet on it.

But since you spent so much more money than me and many others, maybe you can request your own gold-encrusted throne instead of a seat and request a spot right in the aisle, thus eliminating anyone invading your personal space and guaranteeing you the special treatment which you seem to feel you so righteously deserve.

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Originally Posted by kennation (Post 800479)
As for people needing to be put in a special area you should be ashamed. What if someone was in a wheel chair and couldn't see because you were being selfish and could care less. What if someone got hurt becuase you thought the rules didn't apply? Shameful. As long as everyone is having fun and everyone is respectful that's fine. You should deal with the fact that there are rules, so get over it.
As someone else mentioned, there are special areas designated for those who are physically impaired. However, common sense should apply to those who prefer to sit instead of stand and if they so choose to buy a ticket close to the stage, then they have to be prepared to have other fans standing up in front of them if they're not in row numero uno. The world does not revolve around you and if 95% of the audience is standing, then either you're going to have to stand as well, or sit and deal with having your view blocked. Even if you spent $10,000 on your seat, it does not mean you are entitled to any special treatment than anyone else in your area.

kennation 02-27-2009 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TheScoop (Post 800504)
Oh, I have no doubt you spent more than what I did for my ticket. I picked up a second row center seat just the other day for face value. Let's hope all those extra hundreds you spent on meeting Mick got you a place in front of me, although I wouldn't bet on it.

But since you spent so much more money than me and many others, maybe you can request your own gold-encrusted throne instead of a seat and request a spot right in the aisle, thus eliminating anyone invading your personal space and guaranteeing you the special treatment which you seem to feel you so righteously deserve.



As someone else mentioned, there are special areas designated for those who are physically impaired. However, common sense should apply to those who prefer to sit instead of stand and if they so choose to buy a ticket close to the stage, then they have to be prepared to have other fans standing up in front of them if they're not in row numero uno. The world does not revolve around you and if 95% of the audience is standing, then either you're going to have to stand as well, or sit and deal with having your view blocked. Even if you spent $10,000 on your seat, it does not mean you are entitled to any special treatment than anyone else in your area.
I don't care what you think, or say. That simple. And yes, spending more means you get more. Sorry!

wolfontherun 02-27-2009 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by kennation (Post 800507)
I don't care what you think, or say. That simple. And yes, spending more means you get more. Sorry!

Kennation your enthusiasm and concern are understandable.

To everyone lets move on now dude just wants to make sure he has a good time we can all relate.

michelej1 02-27-2009 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TheScoop (Post 800466)
I'm guessing you're the type of fan that likes to sit in his seat expressionless while Steve is twirling during Stand Back. How fun.
It is fun. Except for giving rousing standing ovations when they are warranted, I like to sit in my seat and watch the show and I would stay home, except FM has never performed live in my house, so I'm forced to go out to see them and when I do go out I hate all the rowdy, overly-tall, drunks jumping around and obscuring my vision. I'm happy when Security stops them and I like to daydream that they are taken in a back room and viciously manhandled.

When I saw Lindsey in Vegas, Cowgirl hat was hugging and laying all over me, asking why I was not smiling (?) and cackling at my discomfiture, to the point where, even though I did not complain, Security offered to move my seat. I would rather they have thrown her out than have me move. But what're ya gonna do:shrug:.?

I wish most of the people at concerts would stay at home, have a party, put on FM records and rock out all they want. When I go to a concert, I like to see the performer, not just listen to the music and glimpse fragments of them between the flailing arms of obnoxious fans.

Michele

LukeA 02-27-2009 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kennation (Post 800507)
I don't care what you think, or say. That simple. And yes, spending more means you get more. Sorry!
Except when you get front row tickets for face value. D'oh!

trackaghost 02-27-2009 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by kennation (Post 800507)
I don't care what you think, or say. That simple. And yes, spending more means you get more. Sorry!
You get to meet Mick!


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