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BombaySapphire3 06-03-2014 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar (Post 1131738)
That is a good movie, except Vanessa Redgrave made a fool of herself when she accepted the oscar

Yeah it kind of wrecked her career ..at least in Hollywood ..too bad she is a truly great actress. She owned every scene she was in.

Phil 06-03-2014 08:27 PM

I have to respectfully disagree with the comment about Vanessa Redgrave's 1978 Oscar acceptance speech being embarrassing. I thought she was articulate and bold, utilising the platform to speak with honesty and courageousness.

sorcerer999 06-03-2014 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 1131741)
I have to respectfully disagree with the comment about Vanessa Redgrave's 1978 Oscar acceptance speech being embarrassing. I thought she was articulate and bold, utilising the platform to speak with honesty and courageousness.

^^^ This right here. THANK YOU!

BombaySapphire3 06-03-2014 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 1131741)
I have to respectfully disagree with the comment about Vanessa Redgrave's 1978 Oscar acceptance speech being embarrassing. I thought she was articulate and bold, utilising the platform to speak with honesty and courageousness.

For myself I was not disagreeing with the content of her speech .I am no fan of Israel's treatment of the people of Palestine..just the effect that said speech had on the career of a great actress,:shrug:

Jondalar 06-03-2014 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 1131741)
I have to respectfully disagree with the comment about Vanessa Redgrave's 1978 Oscar acceptance speech being embarrassing. I thought she was articulate and bold, utilising the platform to speak with honesty and courageousness.

There is a place and time for everything. That was not it.

MoonSister75 06-04-2014 06:57 AM

I love this Starshine snippet. I've listened to it many times already, and keep going back for more - its a great start! :D

sorcerer999 06-04-2014 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar (Post 1131746)
There is a place and time for everything. That was not it.

:rolleyes:

welcomechris 06-06-2014 04:33 PM

Starshine Over-Dub Session: May 31, 2014



Love line, love affair
Well, you used to make me shiver
He said, "Well, this is the price that we finally pay"

Fannymac 06-06-2014 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew (Post 1131727)
"Julia" is #1 on my wishlist for this album. Take 5 is my favorite, and I don't necessarily think that it could ever be improved upon, but I do think that Dave & Stevie could record something every bit as terrific.

(And when I'm allowing myself to dream a little, I can't help but hope that, if Christine is indeed playing on something on this album, it's "Julia.")

According to Paul Fishkin, "Julia" was supposed to be on the remastered reissue of BELLA DONNA, along with one or two other tracks, including "Golden Braid." The fact that this didn't happen for the 30th anniversary (and I doubt it'll happen for the 35th!) leaves me wondering if these tracks could appear on 24 KARAT GOLD because Stevie wants them to finally have a home, or if she'll concentrate on demos that have never been released? Hmmmm....!!!

streetangel27 06-06-2014 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KarmaContestant (Post 1131603)
Starshine, the unfinished Bella Donna track, for those who haven't heard it:



How have I not heard this before?
I was searching through my archives of demos but didn't have this one.

Does anyone know where I can find a mp3 of this?

Bandon 06-06-2014 08:00 PM

OH MY!!!! I'm concerned. I agree with whowever said some demos where not selected for albums for a reason. Starshine is such a lame demo . I've read posts stating people dont care what Stevie puts as far as demos as long as there's new music. I tgink they may be satisfied listening to Stevie farting lol. That's tragic. I remember in the 80's and 90's hearing great demos such as If You Ever Did Believe, Sorcerer, Planets..etc. I will hold complete judgement but so far this is concerning. Still what to hear new versions of All the Beautiful Worlds. .Julia. ..She Still Loves Him and ...Space Needle. ....Fingers crossed! Okay fart lovers..give it to me.....:]

BombaySapphire3 06-06-2014 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Fannymac (Post 1131866)
According to Paul Fishkin, "Julia" was supposed to be on the remastered reissue of BELLA DONNA, along with one or two other tracks, including "Golden Braid." The fact that this didn't happen for the 30th anniversary (and I doubt it'll happen for the 35th!) leaves me wondering if these tracks could appear on 24 KARAT GOLD because Stevie wants them to finally have a home, or if she'll concentrate on demos that have never been released? Hmmmm....!!!

If these songs do end up on the new album they will certainly be all new productions and vocals...

Dex 06-07-2014 03:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bandon (Post 1131870)
OH MY!!!! I'm concerned. I agree with whowever said some demos where not selected for albums for a reason. Starshine is such a lame demo . I've read posts stating people dont care what Stevie puts as far as demos as long as there's new music. I tgink they may be satisfied listening to Stevie farting lol. That's tragic. I remember in the 80's and 90's hearing great demos such as If You Ever Did Believe, Sorcerer, Planets..etc. I will hold complete judgement but so far this is concerning. Still what to hear new versions of All the Beautiful Worlds. .Julia. ..She Still Loves Him and ...Space Needle. ....Fingers crossed! Okay fart lovers..give it to me.....:]

Well, if you think Starshine is the aural equivalent of Stevie farting, there probably isn't really much I can say to you. I think we're just on different pages, or even reading entirely different books.

I do think it's important to keep in mind that they aren't going to go for simply the "best" demos, but the demos they feel inspired by and that they feel they can really add something to and "finish" this time around. Which is a very different criteria. But no one is going to be completely happy with the choices Stevie makes on this or any other album. Everything Stevie has ever released has is share of detractors. I'm sure this album will be no different. And that's as it should be.

AnthonyMI 06-07-2014 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dex (Post 1131874)
Well, if you think Starshine is the aural equivalent of Stevie farting, there probably isn't really much I can say to you. I think we're just on different pages, or even reading entirely different books.

I do think it's important to keep in mind that they aren't going to go for simply the "best" demos, but the demos they feel inspired by and that they feel they can really add something to and "finish" this time around. Which is a very different criteria. But no one is going to be completely happy with the choices Stevie makes on this or any other album. Everything Stevie has ever released has is share of detractors. I'm sure this album will be no different. And that's as it should be.

Agree!

Plus let me add... that in the last 17 years that any "vault" songs that Stevie has done are usually the "favorites" compared to the "new" album cuts. Even when the arrangement is less that favorable, they still rate higher than the new tracks.

Say You Will had.. Goodbye Baby, RTTG, SAY, and they were totally better than... Silver Hurl and Illume.

In Your Dreams had... AnnabelleLee, Moonlight and Secret Love, considered by many "fans" to be the best tracks on the album, even if the others were all very good with the exception of Cheaper Than Blah.

sorcerer999 06-07-2014 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyMI (Post 1131877)
Agree!

Plus let me add... that in the last 17 years that any "vault" songs that Stevie has done are usually the "favorites" compared to the "new" album cuts. Even when the arrangement is less that favorable, they still rate higher than the new tracks.

I kind of agree with this statement. Starting with the "Candlebright/Sorcerer/Planets" triumvirate from TISL (the best three songs on the album in my opinion, along with the title track and "Bombay Sapphires") and continuing with her vault songs on SYW and IYD.

It seems that Stevie's "creative peak" was the late 70's/early 80's and perhaps that's why all the "vault songs" are everyone's favorite over any new material. Either that, or us diehard fans are just predisposed to enjoy all the early demos more so than new stuff.

Even though she didn't write the music, I still think "Everybody Loves You" is one of the best songs Stevie has done in a long time! I rank that up there as one of her best.

I must also add that I've been listening to the reel to reels of ALL the takes of "24 Karat Gold" and am getting really excited to hear what comes out of this one. All the vocal takes on each reel are so different from one another and it seems that the possibilities are endless when it comes to this song. I really hope they do a great job with this one.

"...and the moon hung on..."

"...here comes the cold chill..."

"...golden wings in the sunset...take me back..."

"...and there is a world that rises in beside the wind rolls..."


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