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bombaysaffires 12-13-2016 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dreamsunwind (Post 1198042)
I think so too. I think he's actually very insecure and unsure of himself. In my opinion, that's where a lot of his 'ego' comes from-- a need of validation. Like if you're not actually sure that you're good so you tell yourself that you are to make yourself feel better, along those lines.

He's a total libra.

I actually think it probably has to do with his childhood-- he grew up in a very male dominated, competitive athletic family. I mean, older brother is an Olympic medalist, he played himself on the water polo team, all 3 boys seemed very into sports and that in and of itself is a competitive thing... so I think he's always had pressure on him to do well and I think he internalized a lot of it.... just my armchair psychiatry ; )

dreamsunwind 12-13-2016 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1198057)
I actually think it probably has to do with his childhood-- he grew up in a very male dominated, competitive athletic family. I mean, older brother is an Olympic medalist, he played himself on the water polo team, all 3 boys seemed very into sports and that in and of itself is a competitive thing... so I think he's always had pressure on him to do well and I think he internalized a lot of it.... just my armchair psychiatry ; )

Oh yeah, definitely. That's what I remembered about Richard's old blog, he told this funny story about when they went on a ski trip and Lindsey was a really bad skier and that embarrassed him a lot because he likes to be good at everything so he kept practicing over and over until he got better and he kept yelling at Richard to help him. It was a really cute story.

jbrownsjr 12-13-2016 11:10 PM

Yeah Elle... why do you think Stevie fans are bitter?? :lol::lol::lol::lol:

iamnotafraid 12-13-2016 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1198061)
... why do you think Stevie fans are bitter?? :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Alec says it's due to her not
releasing a good album since
November 18, 1985.

HomerMcvie 12-14-2016 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by iamnotafraid (Post 1198062)
Alec says it's due to her not
releasing a good album since
November 18, 1985.

Oh good lort, wouldn't that have been Rock a Little?

Her last good one was Wild Heart.

JohnL 12-14-2016 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1198065)
Oh good lort, wouldn't that have been Rock a Little?

Her last good one was Wild Heart.

Unlike Lindsey or Christine who have never released a decent solo album.

TheWildHeart67 12-14-2016 09:13 AM

I think Stevie WILL participate with the newFM album. Regardless of what's been said Her current tour has been a huge success and she's been filling large venues easily for the first time in a couple of decades. Madison Square Garden sold out 20,000 and the show I attended was 16,000 in Florida. She's enjoying this moment, and when it's over, I imagine she will contribute to the new FM album. I doubt they would tour without Stevie under the FM name. They are already contracted to a world tour with Stevie, and two tours would fragment the marketplace, confuse casual fans and, not to mention, wouldn't fill large venues. Regardless, I have no doubt Stevie will eventually contribute her parts and the album will be completed. This entire drama is par for the course with Fleetwood Mac.
It's funny how people feed into it so much and fight. Say rude things and what not. Everyone should chillax. I am not worried at all.

HomerMcvie 12-14-2016 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnL (Post 1198070)
Unlike Lindsey or Christine who have never released a decent solo album.

The Stevie forum is VVV DOWN THERE VVV.

elle 12-14-2016 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1198061)
Yeah Elle... why do you think Stevie fans are bitter?? :lol::lol::lol::lol:

i know, right? that was one angry rant!

one thing though, we definitely seem to be talking past each other, not really listening to what others are saying. apparently we push buttons in other fans that we don't even realize - and they in us. maybe we should try giving each other benefit of the doubt instead of immediately jumping to worst possible conclusions.

like this:

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Originally Posted by JohnL (Post 1198070)
Unlike Lindsey or Christine who have never released a decent solo album.

what does this even mean? it's obviously inaccurate. was it posted just to provoke negative reaction? or was there a more positive intention behind it that i just can't grasp?

aleuzzi 12-14-2016 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnL (Post 1198070)
Unlike Lindsey or Christine who have never released a decent solo album.

What. Ev. Er.

bwboy 12-14-2016 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1198079)
what does this even mean? it's obviously inaccurate. was it posted just to provoke negative reaction? or was there a more positive intention behind it that i just can't grasp?

Homer said Stevie hadn't made a good album since 1983, so someone else just said the same thing about Lindsey and Christine.

MikeInNV 12-14-2016 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1198081)
Homer said Stevie hadn't made a good album since 1983, so someone else just said the same thing about Lindsey and Christine.

Yep, they are both just opinions. No reason to be miffed by one and not the other.

elle 12-14-2016 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1198081)
Homer said Stevie hadn't made a good album since 1983, so someone else just said the same thing about Lindsey and Christine.

so intention was just to escalate the negativity to higher level without meaning what they said?

but why would someone do that if we are trying to be positive?

jbrownsjr 12-14-2016 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bwboy (Post 1198081)
Homer said Stevie hadn't made a good album since 1983, so someone else just said the same thing about Lindsey and Christine.

Homer said that??!!!

I can't believe it. Because I liked TOSOTM... and some of the older ledgies made fun of me for it. funny but true...

we all have our own tastes...

dreamsunwind 12-14-2016 08:49 PM

I love Stevie and I haven't really loved any of her solo albums since Bella Donna. Some of them I like some songs but as a whole album I've never been really impressed by anything except her debut.

I liked Christine's 1984 album, it wasn't a masterpiece or anything but I liked it. It's very Christine-y if that makes sense.

I think Lindsey's 1992 album is terrific.

elle 12-14-2016 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1198084)
Homer said that??!!!

I can't believe it. Because I liked TOSOTM... and some of the older ledgies made fun of me for it. funny but true...

we all have our own tastes...

yup!

see, i would never say "all stevie's albums are bad" because a) i'm sure at least some of them are critically acclaimed (maybe we can take that as some kind of measure of objectivity?), and b) i haven't listened to any of her albums besides IYD, so i can't provide any kind of qualified opinion.

now, if this person was just trying to joke or be sarcastic because they think it's obviously untrue, it would help it they made that clear somehow. because not everyone is familiar with all Christine's or Lindsey's solo albums either. i never listened to Christine's solo albums, for example.

iamnotafraid 12-14-2016 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1198065)
... wouldn't that have been Rock a Little?

Her last good one was Wild Heart.

I would agree that Wild Heart was
her last great one. But Alec thinks
differently.


David it seems some of your posts
aren't appreciated by the fans of the
traitor.

jbrownsjr 12-14-2016 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by iamnotafraid (Post 1198090)
I would agree that Wild Heart was
her last great one. But Alec thinks
differently.


David it seems some of your posts
aren't appreciated by the fans of the
traitor.

She used to know who she was.

iamnotafraid 12-14-2016 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1198091)
She used to know who she was.

Well her name's not Alice anymore. Her new
name rhymes with Benedict Arnold.

KenshiMaster16 12-15-2016 01:58 AM

I actually think TISL was her last greatest. :shrug: I can listen to 10 of the 13 tracks on repeat all day long.

And while I'm at it, I'll go ahead and say aside from Wild Heart, Stand Back and BATB, The Wild Heart album is overrated. :sorry:

But I can say some unpopular things about Lindsey albums as well so.... :rolleyes:

JohnL 12-15-2016 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1198073)
The Stevie forum is VVV DOWN THERE VVV.

You stop being nasty and I will quit posting here. So looks like we are at an impass. And I can honestly say that what I said was my true opinion...not just trying to stir the pot. I find Lindsey's solo music very either way out there or whispery and fluff. I have never enjoyed it and I find it irritating to my ears. Christine I have to admit is much better. I enjoy some of her solo work but I have never really enjoyed an entire album. Her stuff gets a little too sugary for me. I love her voice but I need it in small doses. My point is that we all have opinions and sometimes they are best kept to ourselves for the sake of unity. This is a FM board...not lets pick on one member board and alienate part of the members.

olive 12-15-2016 09:04 AM

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jbrownsjr 12-15-2016 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by olive (Post 1198104)

haha... I've been waiting for you...

I will follow you down.............. :)

olive 12-15-2016 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1198105)
haha... I've been waiting for you...

I will follow you down.............. :)

enjoy it , it's just a matter of time before it is removed or edited :angel:

jbrownsjr 12-15-2016 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by olive (Post 1198106)
enjoy it , it's just a matter of time before it is removed or edited :angel:

I don't think so. Michele has a great sense of humor. Which is what makes the board fun.

olive 12-15-2016 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1198107)
I don't think so. Michele has a great sense of humor. Which is what makes the board fun.

i know she does , she gets it

HomerMcvie 12-15-2016 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnL (Post 1198101)
You stop being nasty and I will quit posting here. So looks like we are at an impass. And I can honestly say that what I said was my true opinion...not just trying to stir the pot. I find Lindsey's solo music very either way out there or whispery and fluff. I have never enjoyed it and I find it irritating to my ears. Christine I have to admit is much better. I enjoy some of her solo work but I have never really enjoyed an entire album. Her stuff gets a little too sugary for me. I love her voice but I need it in small doses. My point is that we all have opinions and sometimes they are best kept to ourselves for the sake of unity. This is a FM board...not lets pick on one member board and alienate part of the members.

I WILL post my opinions of FM member's albums, and you will like it, or not. I don't really care, and I'M NOT HERE TO PLEASE YOU. If that doesn't sit well with you, do whatever you like. I can think of several options, but those would be nasty to post, so I won't.

Have a good day!:angel:

HomerMcvie 12-15-2016 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1198084)
Homer said that??!!!

I can't believe it. Because I liked TOSOTM... and some of the older ledgies made fun of me for it. funny but true...

we all have our own tastes...

Oh please, TOSOTM is trash!!! I bought that clunker the day it came out, and TRIED to like it. I listened to it for a couple of months, and realized how far she'd fallen. I finally gave up on it, and it's lying in a pile of rubbish, somewhere in my music room.

For people who think I hate all of Stevie's work, nothing could be farther from the truth. I absolutely LOVE Bella Donna. I think it's one of the greatest records ever made! Because the music sounds like The Eagles, featuring Stevie on vocals. Damn, I love that album!!!

Macfanforever 12-15-2016 11:51 AM

The band politics chats here are worst then the world politics.Maybe it should be banned and just chat about nice things about this band.I know It will make this forum boring without it.

olive 12-15-2016 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1198118)
I WILL post my opinions of FM member's albums, and you will like it, or not. I don't really care, and I'M NOT HERE TO PLEASE YOU. If that doesn't sit well with you, do whatever you like. I can think of several options, but those would be nasty to post, so I won't.

Have a good day!:angel:

thank you :xoxo:

olive 12-15-2016 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1198120)
The band politics chats here are worst then the world politics.Maybe it should be banned and just chat about nice things about this band.I know It will make this forum boring without it.

no , this is turning into a millennial's playground

SisterNightroad 12-15-2016 12:05 PM

I just want to remind people that if you really have problems with other members, the content of their posts and/or the way it's expressed you can and should block them. You just have to click on their name to access their private profile and then "Add [insert member name here] to Your Ignore List" and you'll never see their posts anymore.

jbrownsjr 12-15-2016 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SisterNightroad (Post 1198124)
I just want to remind people that if you really have problems with other members, the content of their posts and/or the way it's expressed you can and should block them. You just have to click on their name to access their private profile and then "Add [insert member name here] to Your Ignore List" and you'll never see their posts anymore.

I want to block Homer for trashing The Other Side of the Mirror!

But I love him personally so I won't. :lol:

olive 12-15-2016 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1198134)
I want to block Homer for trashing The Other Side of the Mirror!

But I love him personally so I won't. :lol:

block me everyone else has :thumbsup:

jbrownsjr 12-15-2016 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by olive (Post 1198136)
block me everyone else has :thumbsup:

I love my olive. Stevie fan.. goes to the concerts... yet honest..

blasphemy!!

SisterNightroad 12-15-2016 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by olive (Post 1198136)
block me everyone else has :thumbsup:

How do you know that?
Because if you think that because too few people reply to your posts then I have to inform you that in reality it's because on this board are left only about three or four people.

HomerMcvie 12-15-2016 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1198134)
I want to block Homer for trashing The Other Side of the Mirror!

But I love him personally so I won't. :lol:

You can block me J, as long as you don't **** block me!

And TOSOTM blows goats!

No, not that one.:lol:

HomerMcvie 12-15-2016 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by olive (Post 1198136)
block me everyone else has :thumbsup:

I would never block you!:angel:

elle 12-15-2016 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SisterNightroad (Post 1198138)
How do you know that?
Because if you think that because too few people reply to your posts then I have to inform you that in reality it's because on this board are left only about three or four people.

so i just opened page 9 of this thread and there are posts from 11 different people there, most of them yesterday. so i'm not sure that your counting technique works really well. ;) :lol:

elle 12-15-2016 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by olive (Post 1198104)

love it! :]

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1198120)
banned and just chat about nice things about this band. I know It will make this forum boring without it.

lol yeah. it's funny, every time there's ongoing argument here, you see huge numbers of viewers flocking to the forum - yet some people insist that everyone leaves when people discuss and express opposing views!

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Originally Posted by olive (Post 1198136)
block me everyone else has :thumbsup:

lol i know what you mean. it's pretty easy to deduce who blocked you, i sure have some idea about all the people who blocked me!

on the other hand, while blocking can be a survival technique on places like twitter, on moderated boards like this i just don't read topics where i have no interest but i do like to see and appreciate different points of view on topics that i care about. plus, if someone singles me out by name and calls me a pathetic loser for expressing my views i kinda wanna know. :lol: ;) :angel:


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