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jbrownsjr 01-29-2015 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by gypsy333 (Post 1159570)
Nothing wrong with Stevie's voice...when I saw them in Houston I thought hers was the strongest and most arena-ready of all three...just my opinion, and you know we all got one :cool:

I agree. While her range isn't there, she was very strong and her tone wasn't overbearing or nasal. SOTM was probably the weakest and GDW was her strongest.

amoscascott 01-29-2015 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1159557)
It all comes down to how Stevie sings a song. For instance, Rolling Stone released a video of Stevie singing Gypsy about a week ago from the same video shoot as this freshly released Blue Water clip. I personally think the Gypsy clip was beautiful- she sang very softly from the back of her throat like she used to back in the 70s, and her tone was gorgeous. It's when she pushes her vocals out from her diaphragm (technically the "correct" way to sing) that her voice sounds strained, thin, nasally, shouty, and off-key. If you look at Stevie's most recent album, 24k Gold, there are examples of how her voice can either still be magnificent (All The Beautiful Worlds) or simply dreadful (Lady). She needs to fire her freaking vocal coach. The techniques he taught her destroy everything that is great about her voice.

Her vocal coach saved her voice, and actually she is singing better now with him. He has been with her for 18 years now.

Macfanforever 01-29-2015 04:01 PM

I cant comment on how Stevie sings because I sing like,



She sounds great to me.

LOL......

Again I have to give her credit what she is doing and including the rest of the band at their age.

Chris was alittle rusty on the today show but now she sounds great as she always did.

Macfanforever 01-29-2015 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lulu28 (Post 1159568)
Unfortunately, it's not all critical analysis......
Some just dislike various members of this band. It's not all aimed at Stevie, you have Lindsey and Mick haters too. You can pick them out easily, because they NEVER have anything objective or positive to add to threads such as this one. Sad, but true.
I've been fortunate to see the Mac once already on this tour and I will see them again in March. If that's the end of it, then so be it. If they record a new album, I will be over the moon. If they don't, I'm still thankful for the music, the memories and the wonderful people that I have connected with all because of this band. :angel:


I love all the members of FM present and past members.My screen name says it all.

wheart 01-29-2015 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gypsy333 (Post 1159570)
Nothing wrong with Stevie's voice...when I saw them in Houston I thought hers was the strongest and most arena-ready of all three...just my opinion, and you know we all got one :cool:

I have to fully agree here. I saw the Mac 4 times last year and Stevie sounded perfectly fine at each show. I'm honestly more concerned about her awful wardrobe these days.

SteveMacD 01-29-2015 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnL (Post 1159565)
Turn up the hearing aid Ethel....believe what you want but your Grandma is in the MAJOR MINORITY.

(Ironically, Ethel was her mother-in-law's name.)

Yeah, her favorite singer is Streisand, so she doesn't impress easily. None of the people who've sung in Fleetwood Mac are great vocalists, but that was never really the point.

ETA: "MAJOR MINORITY?" Based on what?

Nick 01-29-2015 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1159584)
I cant comment on how Stevie sings because I sing like,



She sounds great to me.

LOL......

Again I have to give her credit what she is doing and including the rest of the band at their age.

Chris was a little rusty on the today show but now she sounds great as she always did.

Haha. Love that. Not gonna go through 8 or 9 pages of this thread, but here are my thoughts: There should never be another FM album unless all 5 of these legends are part of it.

Stevie will do it, as someone said before I can't see her being the one to f*ck this up. Give them 3 or 4 of your demos (with new vocals of course) and get over your 24K Gold album not being able to be promoted properly and move forward.

michelej1 01-30-2015 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeInNV (Post 1159527)
and John about Ledgie attitudes toward the band members.

Which also runs both ways. My point was that the comment John made about Ledgies automatically disagreeing with Stevie was identical to what Stevie said about herself always disagreeing with Lindsey.

Quote:

"In the studio, if Lindsey said the wall was gray, I will be absolutely sure it was pink."
We aren't talking about different things. I just said that the two things were very similar and very subjective.

Michele

SteveMacD 01-30-2015 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1159535)
I agree.I never seen so much hatred on this board "I know it sound to blunt" about Stevie with this album issue.

I defended Stevie's non-committal stance early in the tour because, although 24KG is still clearly a contractual obligation rush job, she didn't want to alienate the label by not doing any promotion for it. Fleetwood Mac could have helped her out more. Having something like "Lady" and/or "Twisted" in the set and selling/promoting 24KG at shows would have been a nice gesture that probably would have made Stevie more enthusiastic about doing more with Fleetwood Mac in the future.

However, it's clear that the promotion phase for 24KG is pretty much over. It's basically sold what it's going to sell. She still has yet to publicly commit to another Fleetwood Mac album, and it's time.

My biggest issue with Stevie is her attitude, at least how it comes across in the two recent interviews. She appears to be very stand-offish. Even though it wasn't directed at the band, the whole "nobody tells me what to do" attitude, the fact she felt compelled to mentioned that Waddy thought it was funny that the RS thing would piss the band off, and constantly bringing up the tensions between her and Lindsey probably best describes what I'm talking about. It all paints a picture that she's the primary source of dysfunction within the band, and is kind of getting off on it. She's comes off as unhappy and kind of enjoys making everyone else unhappy, too.

PenguinHead 01-30-2015 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1159632)

My biggest issue with Stevie is her attitude, at least how it comes across in the two recent interviews. She appears to be very stand-offish. Even though it wasn't directed at the band, the whole "nobody tells me what to do" attitude, the fact she felt compelled to mentioned that Waddy thought it was funny that the RS thing would piss the band off, and constantly bringing up the tensions between her and Lindsey probably best describes what I'm talking about. It all paints a picture that she's the primary source of dysfunction within the band, and is kind of getting off on it. She's comes off as unhappy and kind of enjoys making everyone else unhappy, too.

Your perspective is sadly astute. Stevie thrives on drama, and most of it is negative. Poor Stevie; she's so oppressed! She pathologically references Lindsey, perpetuating a tiresome, prolonged love/hate saga. Lindsey, having evolved and moved on, with his own family (he's family man), likely doesn't have a sliver of the emotional/sentimental investment that Stevie holds on to. That tension is hers alone. It seems so juvenile for Waddy or Stevie to think Fleetwood Mac would be pissed off about the Rolling Stone cover, as if they are jealous children. At this point, I don't think they give a sheet about that, though they might a little peeved about her inexplicable expressions of indecision about the pending album.

She hopped on a year long tour, but she takes issue with a month or two to contribute this historic band's final album? This is very bad timing for selfish diva behavior. One would think she would be less circumspect, and naturally want to show some gratitude for the band that made her rich and famous -- the last opportunity to collaborate and make new music with Christine; the final artifact for fans who have followed them for over forty years.

But she's not like other people, she does what she wants to.

bethelblues 01-30-2015 09:05 AM

Has anyone gone to one of the concerts and seen someone with a sign in front: "Stevie do the damn album"? She'd probably just pretend she doesn't see it, but maybe just maybe she'll say something.

pauls90 01-30-2015 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bethelblues (Post 1159645)
Has anyone gone to one of the concerts and seen someone with a sign in front: "Stevie do the damn album"? She'd probably just pretend she doesn't see it, but maybe just maybe she'll say something.

This is kind of brilliant haha

sue 01-30-2015 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1159241)
It's a fair point. I know a lot of people think it's all about the $$. But I'm sure Christine and Lindsey could easily do an album without her. Mick would be the only one worried about that.

Now that's an idea and.........Buckingham, McVie has a ring to it.

nicepace 01-30-2015 10:45 AM

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Buckingham, McVie has a ring to it.
A sweet, wonderful ring.

jbrownsjr 01-30-2015 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 1159655)
A sweet, wonderful ring.

Would be a cool show to see

bombaysaffires 01-30-2015 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by PenguinHead (Post 1159637)
Your perspective is sadly astute. Stevie thrives on drama, and most of it is negative. Poor Stevie; she's so oppressed! She pathologically references Lindsey, perpetuating a tiresome, prolonged love/hate saga. Lindsey, having evolved and moved on, with his own family (he's family man), likely doesn't have a sliver of the emotional/sentimental investment that Stevie holds on to. That tension is hers alone. It seems so juvenile for Waddy or Stevie to think Fleetwood Mac would be pissed off about the Rolling Stone cover, as if they are jealous children. At this point, I don't think they give a sheet about that, though they might a little peeved about her inexplicable expressions of indecision about the pending album.

She hopped on a year long tour, but she takes issue with a month or two to contribute this historic band's final album? This is very bad timing for selfish diva behavior. One would think she would be less circumspect, and naturally want to show some gratitude for the band that made her rich and famous -- the last opportunity to collaborate and make new music with Christine; the final artifact for fans who have followed them for over forty years.

But she's not like other people, she does what she wants to.


and 'no one has the balls to tell her what to do' :eek:

michelej1 01-30-2015 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1159665)
and 'no one has the balls to tell her what to do' :eek:

Ha ha. That will have to be worked into a song lyric, somehow. Michele

jbrownsjr 01-30-2015 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1159672)
Ha ha. That will have to be worked into a song lyric, somehow. Michele

Nobody has the balls
To tell you what to do!
I can't even remember the day
I stopped loving you.
One day you will see
our music made right
While you were doing your stupid
ego indulgent selfie night!!!

bethelblues 01-30-2015 10:00 PM

^^^ I loved that!! So great!!

michelej1 01-31-2015 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1159675)
Nobody has the balls
To tell you what to do!
I can't even remember the day
I stopped loving you.
One day you will see
our music made right
While you were doing your stupid
ego indulgent selfie night!!!

Priceless!

I thought it was funny when Christine said she thought there might be pictures of her at the selfie showing, but there weren't. I mean, that was a relief to Christine, but it still made me laugh.

Michele

secondhandchain 01-31-2015 03:01 AM

Whatever the truth, Stevie is coming across really horribly. She could easily fix this with one concrete statement about the album, but refuses to do so. So the blame is all on her as far as I'm concerned.

jbrownsjr 01-31-2015 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1159684)
Priceless!

I thought it was funny when Christine said she thought there might be pictures of her at the selfie showing, but there weren't. I mean, that was a relief to Christine, but it still made me laugh.

Michele

Christine always has a way of making you think... Did she mean she was relieved she wasn't in them.. or she thought there might be one or two of her on those walls.... either way it's so blasted funny..

olive 01-31-2015 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by secondhandchain (Post 1159688)
Whatever the truth, Stevie is coming across really horribly. She could easily fix this with one concrete statement about the album, but refuses to do so. So the blame is all on her as far as I'm concerned.

instead of the typical speculation bs that going on ..bombard her "official" face book , website , twitter with the question Are You going to Record with Fleetwood Mac it should get someones attention

reebokandlace 01-31-2015 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by olive (Post 1159702)
instead of the typical speculation bs that going on ..bombard her "official" face book , website , twitter with the question Are You going to Record with Fleetwood Mac it should get someones attention

I agree... at least it would get Karen's attention.

Not that Karen has time to answer; she is too busy washing and hanging dry that same darn black shoulderless shirt.

olive 01-31-2015 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by reebokandlace (Post 1159703)
I agree... at least it would get Karen's attention.

Not that Karen has time to answer; she is too busy washing and hanging dry that same darn black shoulderless shirt.

someone just has to claim this idea as their own and start a new thread and it should start rolling

David 01-31-2015 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1159360)
WTH does Stevie feel she isn't getting? :mad:

I think that ol' devil age is to blame.

You lose your dad, you lose your mom, you lose several of your colleagues, and your brain starts to do weird things (like suddenly remembering incidents decades ago while forgetting what you ate for lunch three hours ago).

The stuff you could easily toss off at age 30 becomes a lot more rankling thirty years on when it happens again.

"I've been tolerating their crap for five years" is a lot different from "I've been tolerating their crap for thirty-five years." The latter makes a stentorian ring in the soul, like an enormous bell.

Your boundaries—the cajolery or mistreatment you agree to tolerate from others—get stronger with age, not weaker. At age 30, you're a lot more likely to look back with self-annoyance at something you grudgingly agreed to than you are at age 60. By that point, very few people are going to do anything they really don't want to do.

Macfanforever 01-31-2015 01:00 PM

I can fall into that dept on loosing love ones and friends.

I even settle for a FM holiday album.I would except it for new music from FM along with Stevie rerecording Silent Night with FM .

bombaysaffires 01-31-2015 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1159719)
I can fall into that dept on loosing love ones and friends.

I even settle for a FM holiday album
.I would except it for new music from FM along with Stevie rerecording Silent Night with FM .

no one has the balls to make Lindsey do this. :eek:

Macfanforever 01-31-2015 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1159721)
no one has the balls to make Lindsey do this. :eek:

Hahahahaha,That was funny.

michelej1 01-31-2015 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1159717)
I think that ol' devil age is to blame.

You lose your dad, you lose your mom, you lose several of your colleagues, and your brain starts to do weird things (like suddenly remembering incidents decades ago while forgetting what you ate for lunch three hours ago).

Sometimes I look up and make myself remember what I'm wearing today, without looking down.

I used to say, "take that to work with you tomorrow," and I'd remember no problem. Now, I have to start leaving things RIGHT in front of my door if I want to remember to take it out with me.

But certainly I'm at a point where I'm going to take a lot less guff from anyone. I just don't care anymore and I can understand Stevie feeling that way too, but instead of playing games she should just walk away. As you get older, most people are LESS inclined to play games than they were 35 years ago, but Stevie seems more so. She's giving the same baiting interviews that she was giving in the eighties. And yes, Mick and Lindsey still talk to her in the media as well.

I'm not surprised that they're fed up with each other. I am surprised that they're still acting this way. It should be easier to walk away now than it was then.

Michele

Macfanforever 01-31-2015 04:17 PM

I know age is catching up to me.The other night I left the keys in the garage door lock.Found then still there the next day with nothing missing .

My days got all screwed up the past week remembering what day it was.

bombaysaffires 01-31-2015 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1159717)
I think that ol' devil age is to blame.

You lose your dad, you lose your mom, you lose several of your colleagues, and your brain starts to do weird things (like suddenly remembering incidents decades ago while forgetting what you ate for lunch three hours ago).

The stuff you could easily toss off at age 30 becomes a lot more rankling thirty years on when it happens again.

"I've been tolerating their crap for five years" is a lot different from "I've been tolerating their crap for thirty-five years." The latter makes a stentorian ring in the soul, like an enormous bell.

Your boundaries—the cajolery or mistreatment you agree to tolerate from others—get stronger with age, not weaker. At age 30, you're a lot more likely to look back with self-annoyance at something you grudgingly agreed to than you are at age 60. By that point, very few people are going to do anything they really don't want to do.


that's what Karen's there for…. I recall reading in various interviews of the last decade or so: Stevie couldn't remember how to turn the disco ball on -- "Karen!!" Another time with another journalist she couldn't remember how to turn her projector tv on -- "Karen!!" In the SYW doc she was fiddling with the singing fish and there's Karen hovering literally ready to jump in and take over. :lol:

Don't be surprised when Stevie finally departs this earth and her will is unveiled…. everything is left to Karen…. "Just sign this document, here, Stevie…oh, it's nothing, just an autograph for a fan……" :eek::eek::sorry:

reebokandlace 01-31-2015 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1159740)
Don't be surprised when Stevie finally departs this earth and her will is unveiled…. everything is left to Karen…. "Just sign this document, here, Stevie…oh, it's nothing, just an autograph for a fan……" :eek::eek::sorry:

That's priceless!

:lol:


:shocked:

BigAl84 02-01-2015 12:03 AM

haha stevie doesnt even sign autographs for fans anymore except for special events. Ego maniac.

teedeerocks 02-01-2015 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1159675)
Nobody has the balls
To tell you what to do!
I can't even remember the day
I stopped loving you.
One day you will see
our music made right
While you were doing your stupid
ego indulgent selfie night!!!

Hot damn!I don't know what you do for a living but you have hidden talent!Those lyrics are better than half of the s**t I hear on the radio.This could very well be your claim to fame and all of us can say"I knew him when he was just a ledgie";)......And since you brought it up - am I the only one who just doesn't get the selfie,ahem,"self portrait" thing?First she said that she couldn't sleep at night and did them to pass the time and never thought that anyone would ever see them.Then she intentionally takes them out and markets them in a public exhibit with outrageous price tags on them and brags about how she made "alot of money" and is damn proud of it - like she f**king needs it :rolleyes:.I wonder how much her personal shrine in her house is worth?Maybe I'll call the Wilson sisters and ask them.....;)

teedeerocks 02-01-2015 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by reebokandlace (Post 1159703)
I agree... at least it would get Karen's attention.

Not that Karen has time to answer; she is too busy washing and hanging dry that same darn black shoulderless shirt.

Wash and wear????Divas wear ONLY dry cleaned threads my dear;)

teedeerocks 02-01-2015 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1159730)
Sometimes I look up and make myself remember what I'm wearing today, without looking down.

I used to say, "take that to work with you tomorrow," and I'd remember no problem. Now, I have to start leaving things RIGHT in front of my door if I want to remember to take it out with me.

But certainly I'm at a point where I'm going to take a lot less guff from anyone. I just don't care anymore and I can understand Stevie feeling that way too, but instead of playing games she should just walk away. As you get older, most people are LESS inclined to play games than they were 35 years ago, but Stevie seems more so. She's giving the same baiting interviews that she was giving in the eighties. And yes, Mick and Lindsey still talk to her in the media as well.

I'm not surprised that they're fed up with each other. I am surprised that they're still acting this way. It should be easier to walk away now than it was then.

Michele

And didn't Stevie say that she and Mick are best friends?Now THIS is a thread that should be started - "Stevie's most amusing contradictions".It would be one loooooonnnggg ass thread.

HomerMcvie 02-01-2015 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1159730)
I used to say, "take that to work with you tomorrow," and I'd remember no problem. Now, I have to start leaving things RIGHT in front of my door if I want to remember to take it out with me.

But certainly I'm at a point where I'm going to take a lot less guff from anyone. I just don't care anymore and I can understand Stevie feeling that way too, but instead of playing games she should just walk away. As you get older, most people are LESS inclined to play games than they were 35 years ago, but Stevie seems more so. She's giving the same baiting interviews that she was giving in the eighties. And yes, Mick and Lindsey still talk to her in the media as well.

I'm not surprised that they're fed up with each other. I am surprised that they're still acting this way. It should be easier to walk away now than it was then.

Michele

Lord, the staircase closest to my front door, is my "next day spot". Third step! If it's lying there, it's my "must take" collection for the next day.

And David is right. I've lost both my parents, and it's just me now, and I've been through enough relationships....I'm more selfish now. Not with material things...but with ME. If I don't wanna do it, I'm NOT going to do it. A decent "acquaintance friend" invited me to her wedding, a few months ago. I did feel badly for not attending, but know what? I'd already been to two weddings in the previous months, and I just didn't want to go! The end. lol

Stevie will always play the game, and never walk away, because she's addicted to fame, more than any of them(Mick is #2). She really eats it up, and walking away would severely dry up the fame teat, regardless of how much bank she has.

teedeerocks 02-01-2015 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1159772)
haha stevie doesnt even sign autographs for fans anymore except for special events. Ego maniac.

Really???:eek::shocked:I really didn't know that.I think the past 40 years have been just a bunch of BS in the 'caring,sweet Stevie' department.I mean,she has nothing to prove anymore,her career is going to wrap up soon,so she has nothing to lose.All of this is her real self unfortunately IMO.And all her talk about how her Mom(nothing against her Mom here) totally instilled independence in her,well,what a joke.She couldn't be more dependent if she tried.She depends on Karen (and everyone else) like lungs depend on oxygen.

jcalzaretta 02-01-2015 08:43 AM

This will be last studio record. Stevie has been the one band member to keep Fleetwood Mac relevant over the past how many years? She always comes back to the band. There is no way she won't be on the last record. No way. This is partly her legacy too. She has always been loyal to the band and I don't know why people would think this is any different.


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