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vivfox 03-12-2012 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cliffdweller (Post 1043317)
Stevie and Lindsay that's my preference. And I won't apologize for it!

You could apologize for the classic mistake.:sorry:I just couldn't resist.:)

cliffdweller 03-12-2012 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1043324)
You could apologize for the classic mistake.:sorry:I just couldn't resist.:)

Ha-ha! I have a co-worker named Lindsay and I emailed her right before posting this. I really know how to spell HIS name, believe me. ;)

jbrownsjr 03-12-2012 02:08 PM

Stevie is gonna beat the pants off of the other 2. Even is you combine CM and LB's scores. :lol:

Silver Springs 03-12-2012 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1043332)
Stevie is gonna beat the pants off of the other 2. Even is you combine CM and LB's scores. :lol:

Not a massive surprise. The site's infested with Chiffonheads lol..

jbrownsjr 03-12-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Springs (Post 1043333)
Not a massive surprise. The site's infested with Chiffonheads lol..

Infested... lol never bet against chiffon!

fairydust75 03-12-2012 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Springs (Post 1043333)
Not a massive surprise. The site's infested with Chiffonheads lol..

Jeez, lol. So we're varmints now huh? You guys keep me smiling after a hard day in the real world. I run straight home to the LEDGE..:wavey:

Silver Springs 03-12-2012 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by fairydust75 (Post 1043342)
Jeez, lol. So we're varmints now huh? You guys keep me smiling after a hard day in the real world. I run straight home to the LEDGE..:wavey:

You said that, not me :lol:

elle 03-12-2012 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1043332)
Stevie is gonna beat the pants off of the other 2. Even is you combine CM and LB's scores. :lol:

yes, that was one of the points of this poll - to estimate how many fans of each songwriter we have currently active on the board.

realistically, stevie probably has more like 80 fans on TL, many of them who never seem to check Rumours forum, and not just 40+ who voted in this poll.

results so far:

Christine McVie 12
Lindsey Buckingham 20
Stevie Nicks 43

or

christine+lindsey - 32
stevie - 43

just show you how ridiculous is to do polls in which stevie's songs are pitted against the songs from other 2 songwriters (all you people who voted to do them:wavey: - such as current poll MSB has opened - just look at the results in it so far :laugh:). such poll results in most cases remind me of the US Congress - most votes are divided down the party lines :D

vivfox 03-12-2012 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1043361)
just show you how ridiculous is to do polls in which stevie's songs are pitted against the songs from other 2 songwriters

I'm a HUGE Stevie fan but I just voted for one of Lindsey's songs over several of hers in MSB's latest poll. Don't just assume I'd vote for Stevie.

elle 03-12-2012 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1043362)
I'm a HUGE Stevie fan but I just voted for one of Lindsey's songs over several of hers in MSB's latest poll. Don't just assume I'd vote for Stevie.

:laugh: i knew i was going to immediately get that response from someone :wavey: - yeah there's always some crossover votes (even i've done that lol!). that's why i said "like Congress"... :lol:

vivfox 03-12-2012 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1043374)
:laugh: i knew i was going to immediately get that response from someone :wavey: - yeah there's always some crossover votes (even i've done that lol!). that's why i said "like Congress"... :lol:

Well my response wasn't meant to come across so harsh. I appreciate you:angel: big time. Your contributions to The Ledge have brought on numerous conversations, especially in the Lindsey forum, which didn't see too much action til you came around.:xoxo:

fairydust75 03-13-2012 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Springs (Post 1043343)
You said that, not me :lol:

Seriously though, that's why Tusk is my favorite Mac album. All three song writers are at their peak of creativity. The rhythm section makes the songs pop! I love all five members, together they are the most unique band EVER.... But, I confess I am a proud chiffonhead. Its the passion and dedication I feel when I listen to their songs that keeps me obcessed with Stevie, Christine, and Lindsey's lyrics.:xoxo:

David 03-14-2012 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by fairydust75 (Post 1043469)
But, I confess I am a proud chiffonhead.

I am, too. But is there a specific name for us if we're one in spite of ourselves? Can we be considered a sort of dedicated subspecies? We feel that compulsion, that magnetic pull toward Stevie Nicks, even though our intellects balk?

We're like the Peter Lorre character in "M." We don't want to be murderers, but the drive is too strong for our ability to control it, & our actions torment us because of that.

jbrownsjr 03-14-2012 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by fairydust75 (Post 1043469)
Seriously though, that's why Tusk is my favorite Mac album. All three song writers are at their peak of creativity. The rhythm section makes the songs pop! I love all five members, together they are the most unique band EVER.... But, I confess I am a proud chiffonhead. Its the passion and dedication I feel when I listen to their songs that keeps me obcessed with Stevie, Christine, and Lindsey's lyrics.:xoxo:

Nice post, I love chiffonheads... I also love Chanel. lol

jellyman10 03-15-2012 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1043505)
I am, too. But is there a specific name for us if we're one in spite of ourselves? Can we be considered a sort of dedicated subspecies? We feel that compulsion, that magnetic pull toward Stevie Nicks, even though our intellects balk?

OK, I'm calling myself a 'georgettehead'. According to Wikipedia, 'georgette' is "springier and less lustrous than the closely related chiffon".

I voted for Stevie because, like David, I just have to.

David 03-15-2012 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jellyman10 (Post 1043602)
OK, I'm calling myself a 'georgettehead'. According to Wikipedia, 'georgette' is "springier and less lustrous than the closely related chiffon".

I'll try to get used to that!

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I voted for Stevie because, like David, I just have to.
Yeah, it's a compulsion. It's deep-rooted.

aleuzzi 03-15-2012 11:58 AM

Christine has the best in-studio voice, and has lost none of her range. She has trouble live when the sound is way up.

Stevie can sing live and in studio and makes the most of her diminished range.

Lindsey can't really sing anymore. He just sorta shouts and/or talks.

HomerMcvie 03-15-2012 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1043636)
Christine has the best in-studio voice, and has lost none of her range. She has trouble live when the sound is way up.

Stevie can sing live and in studio and makes the most of her diminished range.

Lindsey can't really sing anymore. He just sorta shouts and/or talks.

I couldn't have said it better. It's really too bad about Lindsey's voice. He could really get up there, when he was younger.

Christine really is amazing, that age only seemed to make her voice better. That's really unusual.

ButterCookie 03-15-2012 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1043642)
Christine really is amazing, that age only seemed to make her voice better. That's really unusual.

Especially considering her omnipresent drink and cigarette. Normally the combination of the two would destroy a singing voice.

HejiraNYC 03-15-2012 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1043636)
Christine has the best in-studio voice, and has lost none of her range. She has trouble live when the sound is way up.Stevie can sing live and in studio and makes the most of her diminished range.

Lindsey can't really sing anymore. He just sorta shouts and/or talks.

I don't know how you can say that about someone who has not been heard from in almost a decade. The sixties is a precarious age, and Christine is almost 70 :eek:. I would be utterly shocked if she sounded exactly the same today as she did on ITM.

michelej1 03-15-2012 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1043636)

Lindsey can't really sing anymore. He just sorta shouts and/or talks.

I think Lindsey can sing and live I think he has been singing pretty well for the last 5 years, (but recently better than ever). He doesn't have range though.

Michele

jbrownsjr 03-15-2012 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 1043649)
I don't know how you can say that about someone who has not been heard from in almost a decade. The sixties is a precarious age, and Christine is almost 70 :eek:. I would be utterly shocked if she sounded exactly the same today as she did on ITM.

For all we know, she may not be able to sing at all at 69 yrs of age..

jbrownsjr 03-15-2012 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ButterCookie (Post 1043646)
Especially considering her omnipresent drink and cigarette. Normally the combination of the two would destroy a singing voice.

It somehow preserved her voice, because she really did get better w/ age..:woohoo:

wild-heart 03-15-2012 03:54 PM

I've voted Christine because although i prefer Stevie's solo stuff a little more Christine's Mac stuff is just beautiful and I feel a more emotional connection to her material. I also think she's a little underrated and she has a wicked very English sense of humour and lovely legs. LOL.

jbrownsjr 03-15-2012 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wild-heart (Post 1043681)
I've voted Christine because although i prefer Stevie's solo stuff a little more Christine's Mac stuff is just beautiful and I feel a more emotional connection to her material. I also think she's a little underrated and she has a wicked very English sense of humour and lovely legs. LOL.

You got a good heart wild-heart :thumbsup:

elle 03-15-2012 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1043636)
Christine has the best in-studio voice, and has lost none of her range. She has trouble live when the sound is way up.

Stevie can sing live and in studio and makes the most of her diminished range.

Lindsey can't really sing anymore. He just sorta shouts and/or talks.

huh?!?!? have you HEARD Lindsey on his recent solo tours? Small Machine DVD? are we talking about the same singer?

elle 03-15-2012 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1043659)
I think Lindsey can sing and live I think he has been singing pretty well for the last 5 years, (but recently better than ever). He doesn't have range though.

exactly. seems like people who haven't heard him recently are making some extrapolations from whenever they've heard him last. these rumors keep flying around a lot it seems, because i was completely shocked when i first heard him live in April.

aleuzzi 03-17-2012 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 1043649)
I don't know how you can say that about someone who has not been heard from in almost a decade. The sixties is a precarious age, and Christine is almost 70 :eek:. I would be utterly shocked if she sounded exactly the same today as she did on ITM.

Honestly, I wouldn't shocked. In fact, I'd be shocked if she hadn't sounded good. If she could make it to her early 60s sounding like she did on the White album, why not to the 70s?

I guess none of us will know for sure unless (until?) she puts an album out again.

aleuzzi 03-17-2012 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1043659)
I think Lindsey can sing and live I think he has been singing pretty well for the last 5 years, (but recently better than ever). He doesn't have range though.

Michele

Fair enough. But the voice that belted Blue Letter--and even Bleed to Love Her--is no more, and that saddens me.

aleuzzi 03-17-2012 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1043709)
huh?!?!? have you HEARD Lindsey on his recent solo tours? Small Machine DVD? are we talking about the same singer?

I have his latest cd, which is great. Heard him live on the last FM tour in Rochester. Unless something miraculous has happened, I'm not thrilled with his voice live.

elle 03-17-2012 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1044017)
I have his latest cd, which is great. Heard him live on the last FM tour in Rochester. Unless something miraculous has happened, I'm not thrilled with his voice live.

i know what you mean re FM tour, saw youtube footage.

and i don't know what happened, but his solo live voice has been incredible all last year. you can argue that some of that has been pre-engineered and mixed in at live shows, but we've also heard him sing live at 92Y, without even a proper mic let alone any engineering (check a bit earlier in this thread for Hejira's recording of one of the songs he did then).


EDIT: and, i hate what he did to his voice on SWS. all 6 songs from that album are much better live, with his regular voice - imo, of course.

aleuzzi 03-17-2012 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1044018)
i know what you mean re FM tour, saw youtube footage.

and i don't know what happened, but his solo live voice has been incredible all last year. you can argue that some of that has been pre-engineered and mixed in at live shows, but we've also heard him sing live at 92Y, without even a proper mic let alone any engineering (check a bit earlier in this thread for Hejira's recording of one of the songs he did then).


EDIT: and, i hate what he did to his voice on SWS. all 6 songs from that album are much better live, with his regular voice - imo, of course.

Well it's great to know he got his voice back. I guess it is very possible, with the right living, etc... Christine's voice in 1984 was much worse off than it was in 1987.

elle 03-17-2012 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1044024)
Well it's great to know he got his voice back. I guess it is very possible, with the right living, etc... Christine's voice in 1984 was much worse off than it was in 1987.

could be a part of it, i don't know whether he's using some kind of vocal coach or something too...

i wouldn't necessarily say he's got his voice "back" because he definitely doesn't have the high range anymore, not surprisingly. a lot of his sounding so good might be due to putting his songs in the key he can actually sing them in. just a speculation, but might be possible that with FM, with both his and SN's voice loosing range, they cannot find the range in which both of their voices can do their best.

another caveat, i don't like his young high girly-sounding voice. the voice he has now is lower, much fuller, and all around pretty impressive when you hear it during solo shows.

wild-heart 03-19-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1043697)
You got a good heart wild-heart :thumbsup:

ahahaha :) thankyou.

McTrouble 03-19-2012 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1044028)
could be a part of it, i don't know whether he's using some kind of vocal coach or something too...

i wouldn't necessarily say he's got his voice "back" because he definitely doesn't have the high range anymore, not surprisingly. a lot of his sounding so good might be due to putting his songs in the key he can actually sing them in. just a speculation, but might be possible that with FM, with both his and SN's voice loosing range, they cannot find the range in which both of their voices can do their best.

another caveat, i don't like his young high girly-sounding voice. the voice he has now is lower, much fuller, and all around pretty impressive when you hear it during solo shows.

:):nod::thumbsup:

michelej1 03-20-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1044028)
i don't like his young high girly-sounding voice. the voice he has now is lower, much fuller, and all around pretty impressive when you hear it during solo shows.

You know, I really appreciate his deeper "normal" voice after the helium thrill ride of Gift of Screws. We have that high, rapid manipulated voice throughout the song and then at the end you have regular Lindsey coming in and sing-talking "to the left, to the right, up and down, in and out, that's right baby, that's right" and I think it is such a hot, jarring contrast. My ears like the testosterone perk.

But I had a similar experience when I first heard Michael Jackson's 2000 Watts. I was thinking, "whoa, who is this man? Where's Michael been hiding him?"

Michele

sushud82 03-21-2012 10:41 AM

To be hyperbolic, this was a real Sophie's Choice for me. I'm a "package deal" kinda gal. I do love all of Lindsey's solo albums (as opposed to about 75% of Stevie's) but ultimately had to vote Chiffon in 2012. I have a tambo tattoo, 'nuff said.

CADreaming 03-21-2012 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sushud82 (Post 1044517)
To be hyperbolic, this was a real Sophie's Choice for me. I'm a "package deal" kinda gal. I do love all of Lindsey's solo albums (as opposed to about 75% of Stevie's) but ultimately had to vote Chiffon in 2012. I have a tambo tattoo, 'nuff said.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

"Chiffon in 2012" - I LOVE that!! :wavey:

TrueFaith77 03-21-2012 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1044389)
You know, I really appreciate his deeper "normal" voice after the helium thrill ride of Gift of Screws. We have that high, rapid manipulated voice throughout the song and then at the end you have regular Lindsey coming in and sing-talking "to the left, to the right, up and down, in and out, that's right baby, that's right" and I think it is such a hot, jarring contrast. My ears like the testosterone perk.

But I had a similar experience when I first heard Michael Jackson's 2000 Watts. I was thinking, "whoa, who is this man? Where's Michael been hiding him?"

Michele

Brilliant comparison b/w MJ and LB voices.

I don't care if Lindsey is high or low, I just want the whisper-voice to go!

As for my pick: I am thinking... Stevie may be the glamorous glue. But I'm not ready to vote yet.

estranged4life 03-21-2012 03:44 PM

Had to go with...
 
LB (With all respects to Christine), burnt out on Stevie.


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