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amber 09-10-2004 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by marc402
OOH NO !!!! how could i be so stupid fatal mistake i meant that's enough for me why o why did i mix em up
hope sisters doesn't go because of my stupidity :( :(

Just go edit your vote - i'm sure it won't be against the rules if you change your vote cause you accidentally picked one that was gone....sheesh...
AMber

dissention 09-10-2004 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
Just go edit your vote - i'm sure it won't be against the rules if you change your vote cause you accidentally picked one that was gone....sheesh...
AMber

I would like a call on this from the people running this game, thankyouverymuch. :wavey:

jbrownsjr 09-10-2004 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
I would like a call on this from the people running this game, thankyouverymuch. :wavey:

there's a big surprise! (said in sarcastic tone)

dissention 09-10-2004 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ryan8472
The title speaks for itself ;)

So much for switching sides. ;) :laugh:

amber 09-10-2004 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
I would like a call on this from the people running this game, thankyouverymuch. :wavey:

oh, are you hoping they'll veer into not-fair-land and make him keep his vote of a song that he didn't realize was already gone? That would NOT be fair..
AMber

dissention 09-10-2004 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
oh, are you hoping they'll veer into not-fair-land and make him keep his vote of a song that he didn't realize was already gone? That would NOT be fair..
AMber

Like I said, I'll wait for Nancy or rez to make the call. ;) :wavey:

Hawkeye 09-10-2004 04:50 PM

I really don't think this will matter :laugh:

sodascouts 09-10-2004 04:52 PM

My call - zero tolerance
 
I hate to be such a hardliner, but after the last debacle where Homer "accidentally" gave immunity to the wrong song and tried to change it.... it would open up a huge can of worms I'm not prepared to deal with if we allowed Marc to change his vote.

So, no, Marc. I'm afraid you'll have to stick with what you originally put. :( Better luck next time!

amber 09-10-2004 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Like I said, I'll wait for Nancy or rez to make the call. ;) :wavey:

Right but i think you know they shouldn't even have to. It's so obvious. But i know, you'll take what you can get, i'm sure...
AMber

amber 09-10-2004 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by sodascouts
I hate to be such a hardliner, but after the last debacle where Homer "accidentally" gave immunity to the wrong song and tried to change it.... it would open up a huge can of worms I'm not prepared to deal with if we allowed Marc to change his vote.

So, no, Marc. I'm afraid you'll have to stick with what you originally put. :( Better luck next time!

Omigod! he accidentally wrote a song that was already gone! that is soooo not fair! It's not the same situation as the other thing at all. It's not fair, and you know it. :wavey:
AMber

sodascouts 09-10-2004 04:57 PM

The Ruling Will Stand.
 
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Originally Posted by amber
Omigod! he accidentally wrote a song that was already gone! that is soooo not fair! It's not the same situation as the other thing at all. It's not fair, and you know it. :wavey:
AMber

AMber, if I thought it wasn't fair, then I wouldn't rule that way. You're the one trying to change the rules for Marc.

I have made the decision I feel is the fair one because I am following the rule that states one cannot change the vote once it is cast. This rule is clearly laid out in the opening post of the game. If I were to change it for Marc, I could be accused of trying to manipulate the results. Therefore, my ruling stands regardless of any whining and temper tantrums that may result.

Interestingly, Marc himself seems to understand this. But thanks for your two cents, AMber.

ryan8472 09-10-2004 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
So much for switching sides. ;) :laugh:

Hey, I didn't vote for a Lindsey song, did I? :confused: ;)

amber 09-10-2004 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sodascouts
AMber, if I thought it wasn't fair, then I wouldn't rule that way. You're the one trying to change the rules for Marc.

I have made the decision I feel is the fair one because I am following the rule that states one cannot change the vote once it is cast. This rule is clearly laid out in the opening post of the game. My ruling stands regardless of any whining and temper tantrums that may result.

Interestingly, Marc himself seems to understand this. But thanks for your two cents, AMber.

Immunity for an entire round is not the same as one vote. and changing one vote is not even the same as changing a vote CAUSE YOU ACCIDENTALLY PICKED A SONG THAT WAS VOTED OUT ALREADY. In effect, his vote was not a vote at all. He might as well have left it blank, because it was impossible to vote for the song he put. It's not like he picked a song that was eligible, then changed it. But i see you will follow the RULE. This is how law and gov't become unfair, too :D
Thanks for your one cent, soda
AMber

Sugar 09-10-2004 05:13 PM

11 Sisters of the Moon
 
Not that it matters... :mad:

irishgrl 09-10-2004 05:21 PM

ok then: round 11, sotm.
 
and I'll edit here: Ive been told........though it may be a RUMOUR (ar ar) that if SOTM is voted off, there will be an eternity of gratitude...........This is an exciting prospect boys and girls, eternal gratitude!!!!!

anyway, though I personally LIKE SOTM, I am helping out in the name of Eternal Gratitude (because you never know when it might come in handy!):
ROUND 11, SOTM

:]

well, folks I am new at this and didnt know.

amber 09-10-2004 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by irishgrl
though it may be a RUMOUR (ar ar) that if SOTM is voted off, there will be an eternity of gratitude...........This is an exciting prospect boys and girls, eternal gratitude!!!!!

anyway, though I personally LIKE SOTM, I am helping out in the name of Eternal Gratitude (because you never know when it might come in handy!):
ROUND 11, SOTM

:]

oh, look, she didn't put her vote in the subject line. I guess it doesn't count, then....especially since the most recent ruling on the subject of changing moot votes...
BTW, Irishgirl, did anyone offer you eternal gratitude if you did not vote for SOTM? Cause i'm offering it right now, especially since your vote doesn't count! :)
AMber

amber 09-10-2004 05:29 PM

And if I suddenly spot a vote in irishgirls line...Well, that would be flying hard and fast in the face of a RULE, which is that you must put your vote in the subject line, so i hope i don't see that... :woohoo:
AMber

stefan 09-10-2004 05:30 PM

Round 11 Sisters of the moon
 
Irishgrl, you have to put your vote and the round number 11 in the subject line otherwise it won`t be counted. Please edit your post.

I guess we all knew how this thread would develop so we don't need to complain now. We decided to take part with open eyes. Even though I had better not changed my mind and had better stayed outside as I initially wanted- here I am giving my meaningless vote for the sisters...

amber 09-10-2004 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by trackaghost
Irishgirl, you need to put the vote in the subject line otherwise it won't be counted.
...

But that's not fair, dear. Marc put a song that does not even exist anymore in his subject line, and no one was allowed to remind him to change it, cause it had already been voted off....nofair, nofair....
AMber

heyjupiter678 09-10-2004 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by trackaghost
I can't believe the song Tusk has got this far. Lindsey's novelty hit is better than That's Enough For Me? Apparently lots of people think so...

Tell me about it - I've been voting for it for two rounds now. There's no way Tusk is a better song than TEFM. No. Way. :shrug::rolleyes:

irishgrl 09-10-2004 05:37 PM

arrgh..........
 
if my vote doesnt count, there goes my chance for eternal gratitude! I appeal to your collective sense of....of..........well, hell!! I dont know WHAT it is, just that IM APPEALING! :woohoo:

sodascouts 09-10-2004 05:38 PM

The Ruling Stands
 
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Originally Posted by amber
But i see you will follow the RULE. This is how law and gov't become unfair, too :D
Thanks for your one cent, soda
AMber

You're welcome. Happy to clarify for you.

The ruling stands.

sodascouts 09-10-2004 05:40 PM

The ruling stands.
 
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Originally Posted by trackaghost
The difference between Marc and Irishgrl is that Marc would be changing his vote altogether, Irishgrl would be merely putting her vote in the correct place for it to be counted.

Exactly. As I said before, MOST people seem to understand this. I'm sorry that AMber is displeased but oh well, I guess there's always one.

I know I'm not wrong. ;)

shackin'up 09-10-2004 05:42 PM

novote
 
Okay, Patti and dissention made clear that you don't fight alone in this game. Sodascouts pointed out that my move was silly and pathetic, although i knew that myself. Gazza came back in a blink of an eye. Can't leave you guys who fought for SMAP alone. And, I think I made my point. I'll try to swallow the sour grapes and vote against the pink boa's again tomorrow. :sorry: for being a selfindulged *ss.

gerald

irishgrl 09-10-2004 05:43 PM

Im sorry too
 
I didnt mean to cause trouble??? :sorry:

amber 09-10-2004 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by trackaghost
The difference between Marc and Irishgrl is that Marc would be changing his vote altogether, Irishgrl would be merely putting her vote in the correct place for it to be counted.

Marc isn't changing his vote, because his vote didn't exist. A song which has already been voted out, is the same as a vote not existing. I don't understand why the logic of THAT is escaping everyone. How can your vote be a vote if it was never eligible? It is the same as NOTHING. not eligible=nothing. get it? no, obviously not.
And yes, mein soda, I understand you won't be changing your ruling. logic escapes....and no one goes to search for it....
AMber

amber 09-10-2004 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by irishgrl
if my vote doesnt count, there goes my chance for eternal gratitude! I appeal to your collective sense of....of..........well, hell!! I dont know WHAT it is, just that IM APPEALING! :woohoo:

Ah, but they have ruled that your vote does count, because though you didn't follow the rules, that is acceptable IN THIS CASE. We don't know when else it will be acceptable, but that is ok. You should get to vote. I offer my eternal gratitude if you vote for NOT sisters of the moon :xoxo: :wavey:
AMber

stefan 09-10-2004 05:46 PM

no vote
 
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Originally Posted by shackin'up
Okay, Patti and dissention made clear that you don't fight alone in this game. Sodascouts pointed out that my move was silly and pathetic, although i knew that myself. Gazza came back in a blink of an eye. Can't leave you guys who fought for SMAP alone. And, I think I made my point. I'll try to swallow the sour grapes and vote against the pink boa's again tomorrow. :sorry: for being a selfindulged *ss.

gerald

What about today dude? Don't you think there are too many sisters around :laugh: Or have you already voted? Too tired to scroll back. Btw check out the Lindsey thread I`ll post a musical recommendation for you there soon.

shackin'up 09-10-2004 05:51 PM

novote
 
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Originally Posted by stefan
What about today dude? Don't you think there are too many sisters around :laugh: Or have you already voted? Too tired to scroll back. Btw check out the Lindsey thread I`ll post a musical recommendation for you there soon.

Yes, too late, stefan. But I made my point in the vote of this round. I'll check the threads on lindseys side. So I'm in for a treat?

sodascouts 09-10-2004 05:51 PM

No vote here. Sigh.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by amber
Marc isn't changing his vote, because his vote didn't exist. A song which has already been voted out, is the same as a vote not existing. I don't understand why the logic of THAT is escaping everyone. How can your vote be a vote if it was never eligible? It is the same as NOTHING. not eligible=nothing. get it? no, obviously not.
And yes, mein soda, I understand you won't be changing your ruling. logic escapes....and no one goes to search for it....
AMber

Congratulations on being so much more logical and fair than everyone else. :rolleyes:

sodascouts 09-10-2004 05:54 PM

No vote here.
 
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Originally Posted by trackaghost
He is changing it though. It's his own fault for not checking to see what songs are left. His vote DOES exist, no matter how redundant it is.

Don't bother, Sharon. AMber doesn't want to see that. Like I said, there will always be some who can't handle it when things don't go their way. Oh well.

sodascouts 09-10-2004 05:58 PM

No vote here.
 
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Originally Posted by cliffdweller
My vote goes to "The Ledge"

...and I still don't understand why we're not voting off the worst songs and by worst of course I mean "least best"...ahem, cough... ;) all this "strategery" has me boondoggled :]

Don't forget to put your vote in the subject line. Thanks! :)

amber 09-10-2004 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by trackaghost
He is changing it though. It's his own fault for not checking to see what songs are left. His vote DOES exist, no matter how redundant it is.

That's bad logic, my friend. And in that case, Irishgirl not posting her vote in the line is her own fault for not checking the RULES. How does his vote exist? What will it count toward? It only exists if it can be counted in this round as a vote, and it can't - because there is no such song from last round on out. I mean, obviously you're not going to see the logic in that, and this may be the last time i argue it with you (may :laugh: ) but it, to me, (and i've taken lots of logic/philosophy classes) just seems the height of obvious logic. Sorry :sorry: . I mean, you say he's changing it - from what, nothing to nothing? Cause in this round, WMYTYTO doesn't exist, therefore it is nothing. It's semantics, now, of course, because that particular infraction of a RULE is obviously being enforced with an iron fist - though other infractions are met with mere reminders...unfair, also, but...whatever, i just think it is unfair and illogical and so will speak up about it, no matter what anyone may say about whining.
AMber

shackin'up 09-10-2004 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by trackaghost
Yes, come back into the game Gerald, Lindsey (and who knows, even Christine!) could still win this thing.
It's not that I'm against Stevie winning, I love to see Sara be triumphant, but it would be disappointing and so much less exciting to see just Stevie's songs in the last few rounds.

That means that we will be enemies in the last few rounds. If a steviesong wins, i want it to be Storms. But hey! I don't want a Steviesong to win. :laugh:

About Tusk: As a song, it is the weakest one from lindsey on the album, imo.
It's sort of a non-song, but therefore it deserves ALOT of credit, being the flagship of what Lindsey wanted to state with this album towards audience industry, his own band, and maybe even himself. That one being the first single as follow-up of the biggest commercial succes in history, was more punk then punk itself.

stefan 09-10-2004 06:08 PM

no vote
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trackaghost
Yes, come back into the game Gerald, Lindsey (and who knows, even Christine!) could still win this thing.
It's not that I'm against Stevie winning, I love to see Sara be triumphant, but it would be disappointing and so much less exciting to see just Stevie's songs in the last few rounds.

Well no way Lindsey can win that thing. I know it, you know it, we know it, it is simply a given thing. But we can still make our points though (I know a few people who like statements) ;) and regard which Stevie song beats the other Stevie songs in the last rounds. If so then it may be Storms.

stefan 09-10-2004 06:11 PM

no vote
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shackin'up
Yes, too late, stefan. But I made my point in the vote of this round. I'll check the threads on lindseys side. So I'm in for a treat?

O.K. I put it in the "Cure for the no Lindsey blues"-thread.

HomerMcvie 09-10-2004 06:33 PM

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Marc isn't changing his vote, because his vote didn't exist. A song which has already been voted out, is the same as a vote not existing. I don't understand why the logic of THAT is escaping everyone. How can your vote be a vote if it was never eligible? It is the same as NOTHING. not eligible=nothing. get it? no, obviously not.
AMber, I agree 100%. No vote WAS cast.
HOmer

Hawkeye 09-10-2004 06:33 PM

I think Tusk is possibly the best song on the album next to IKINW, SOTM and BC.

amber 09-10-2004 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie
AMber, I agree 100%. No vote WAS cast.
HOmer

oh, it's nice to know someone sees it as you (I) do. gracias.
Amber

dissention 09-10-2004 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by irishgrl
if my vote doesnt count, there goes my chance for eternal gratitude! I appeal to your collective sense of....of..........well, hell!! I dont know WHAT it is, just that IM APPEALING! :woohoo:

It counts, don't worry. I promised eternal gratitude and, by golly, I meant it. ;) :laugh:


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