I disagree, it takes more than dedication and ambition to be good. Her skill level on the piano pushing a chord. It's not that difficult. I think she's tried both guitar and piano and knows she's just not cut out for it. (This was way back in the early to mid 70's.)

Her singing at the piano in the recent RS posts sound horrible to me as well.
I love her singing with an ensemble.

I look at someone like Joni Mitchell who wasn't trained in notes, chords or tunings.. She just picks up a guitar and naturally knows what she wants out of it. Not a lifetime of dedication or practice. Much like Lindsey, she's a natural. Stevie isn't.

well we knew by his own accounts that Richard feels his role as a producer has been marginalized by Lindsey, and now, perhaps also by Ken (I don't know what Ken is quoted as saying in the article). By writing his book, Ken has gotten his version of his role in producing FM music on record. Other than his obvious credits on the albums and the Grammy on his shelf at home, the specifics of Richard's contributions to the process remain ill-defined. This seems to bother him a lot. He clearly feels dissed by LB whom he feels has at best minimized and at worst completely dismissed his contributions. And this may have some truth to it. Ken also hasn't really said a whole lot to illuminate just what Richard's role was. Richard could rectify this by telling his own story.:shrug:

He also contributed to his own situation by not going on to establish his credentials outside of FM and turning down chances to work with other bands or other producers (Ken went on to produce other major acts, and, both Ken and Jimmy Iovine asked Richard to work with them). It seems he turned much of that work down out of a sense of loyalty to LB, a sense of loyalty that perhaps was not reciprocated.... hence his feeling of being somewhat discarded or pushed aside. Again, that may be true, and his loyalty may have been misguided, but nevertheless nothing purely "happens" to us, we usually in some way contribute. Maybe he naively thought his relationship with LB would remain the same forever and ever.... maybe, because of his admitted self-esteem issues, he didn't have the self-confidence to take on other jobs. :shrug:

He should either just write the damn book telling his version of events, without bitterness, just record his memories....or let it go. Even in his current more mellow approach to life I don't see LB doling out much credit to others regarding production and arrangement of FM songs. His own need for recognition in doing that overshadows that. Richard seems like he's somehow just waiting for Lindsey to "speak the truth" about Richard's role, and I just don't see that happening. He either needs to get it out of his system and document it somehow, which is kinda what the blog seemed to be to me, or move on.

guess Richard Dashut didn't like what Ken Caillat had to say, and agreed with all of you who read the text and thought it was biased against the band. :shrug:


my disclosure - i haven't looked for the magazine (no interest in collectibles such as physical pics, text, etc about the band), so i can't judge what the text actually said.

a series of tweets from RD's ex-assistant Stacy -


@Stacy_B · 3 hours ago
Don't believe everything you read.
With that being said, the LIFE magazine edition on FM is complete BS.

@Stacy_B · 2 hours ago
Literally bullsh*t. All of it, bunch of lies. Trust me, I know what the heck happened in the 70's-90's w/ FM & Richard. That story is a lie.

@Stacy_B · 2 hours ago
@kenboggle well, Ken did a Ken again & threw everyone under the bus but made himself look like the important guy who did all the work. LIES.

@Stacy_B · 2 hours ago
@sherrisurfs76 its cool to see them on the cover & all but totally not cool to have your best friend & collaborator talked down on publicly.

@Stacy_B · 2 hours ago
Okay, rant over.
I just wanted to clear the air, but if you'd been following the blog, you already know the truth ;)

Seriously. He's going about all this the wrong way. Write the damn book or move on!

She seems a little bitter. Just an observation.

Ex-assistant??

You're right. Dedication and ambition has its limits when you don't have the intrinsic natural talent. It's fine that Stevie uses her limited instrumental skills to construct her songs, but when she goes public with them, she doesn't do herself any favors. But I admire her attempts. Time makes her bolder.

What is interesting here is how similar Richard's feelings, as you aptly explain them, resemble Bob Welch's. You change Lindsey to Fleetwood and the McVies, and Rumours to 1971-74 and you've got pretty much the same thing going on.

i never got that vibe from Richard or his blog, where did you see this?

there were tweets from Stacy after one of LB's interviews (Andy Greenwald podcast i believe) complaining that Lindsey didn't talk about Richard in that interview. that is all. in his blog or tweets Richard never said anything like that, just the opposite.

unlike Lindsey, Richard actually has producer credits on Rumours.

on his blog mostly.....which I can't go back to and quote to you :(

one in particular i recall was after the podcast aired, with its discussion of making Tusk, a comment to the effect of yes I was there too remember i was the guy on the other end of the talk-back mic... I just remember it because the line about the talk-back mic was so pointed. eta: the recent twitter exchange with Ken, where Ken essentially responds that he wasn't deliberately leaving out Richard. something like "i tell the reporters when I say "I" I mean "Dashut and I"

it's interesting because again - both Ken and Richard actually HAVE producing credit on Tusk (same as Rumours). neither one of them has to prove that they were actually producing it, it's all right there in the liner notes etc. and they are getting producing money for these albums, whatever that is (didn't SN once said how that's large chunk?).

LB does not have producing credit (by name) on Rumours, or Tusk (where he does have special thanks). for LB, all we have is what he and others say he did on those albums, production-wise. RD and KC are listed by name as producers.

http://www.discogs.com/Fleetwood-Mac...elease/2089217

She said that Lindsey gets producing money, which is why he has so much of it -- and I have no doubt that he does -- at least from Tusk on -- whatever the liner notes say.

Michele

interesting, i was wondering how that works - can someone who is not officially a producer be getting "producing money"? my assumption would be whoever is listed as a producer (on all docs, contracts, liner notes, etc) would be getting whatever producing money is, and that's it.

Fleetwood Mac Life Magazine Special Edition
 

Anyone else see this? I picked up a copy today. Just thumbing through it, seems like the same old same old rehashing of everything, specifically the Rumours album. Unsurprisingly, everything after Lindsey leaving is glossed over and given a few pithy (and disrespectful) comments.