The Ledge - propose 6 deep cuts - 3 SN and 3 LB

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- - propose 6 deep cuts - 3 SN and 3 LB - for new tour (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=51405)

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 1075482)

After all these years, the simple fact is that the band has become lazy. There is no reason why tracks couldn't be added and subtracted on a nightly basis, but there is a continual reluctance to introduce anything new. I realise that the blame rests squarely on Stevie's shoulders as Lindsey would seem game for just about anything. However, the band as a whole ultimately agree to Stevie's whims and will only trot out what has been rehearsed to death.
Even if half a dozen rarely performed songs are included in this tour, they too will become stale within a few months. The trick would be to keep evolving and potentially running through their entire back catalogue as well attempting newly written material. Of course, this will never happen, but if this approach was adopted, even the old warhorses could be swapped out from time to time. If this were to occur, I wouldn't be resentful of Dreams, Go Your Own Way, Rhiannon, I'm So Afraid etc because there would be a chance they may not be played at the following show.
What mystifies me about Stevie's insistence upon playing "the hits" is that so many of them are continually ignored. This is more apparent with her solo shows whereby she virtually ignores many of her singles, but in regard to Fleetwood Mac, I can't believe they haven't dragged Seven Wonders out since the Tango tour. So many casual fans of the band seem to adore this track and it would also offer an upbeat alternative to the ill-judged inclusion of Stand Back in a Mac show. The same can be said for the likes of Sisters Of The Moon, Angel and That's Alright - these would all serve to energise the rather sedate offerings we've become accustomed to from Stevie. She really does need her face slapped.

This is exactly what I was trying to refute when I posted all of the set lists for the tours. It has been basically the same since "Rumours", with the same 20 songs - with roughly half being stationary and half being in rotation. I'm not sure what is so mind boggling about their set list. They do what successful bands do - build a catalog and play it for their audience. Honestly, it's not Stevie's fault either, unless you dislike the running order because she probably did "sequence" it. I would bet Lindsey would not be quite as willing to be spontaneous either at this point - ask Elle who bugged the crap out of him on his solo tour and managed to get a couple of squeaks but never what she really wanted from her requests.

So, to think they would ever be in a request taking, set juggling, or truly spontaneous forum again like they were on the White Tour would happen the day that Fleetwood Mac became so far a distant memory in the minds of music lovers everywhere that they couldn't even sell out a bar on Sunset Strip. It just ain't gonna happen.

That, my friend, is what they celebrate every.single.night with their set list -- the fact that ALL those songs are in YOUR mind and you know them and can sing them and especially that you have PURCHASED them - over and over and over again.... and that you're there AGAIN to see them after 35+ years.

Don't misunderstand me, I know it would be so super nice for the set list to be changed every night and different and man what a kick if they would pull out the deep cuts and play stuff we've never heard and prove to us they are still that phenomenal band we all fell in love with.... but they would have to have rehearsed all those songs (something they don't have time to do), they will never go out into an arena full of people and do something off the cuff because it would look unprofessional and be too "sloppy"...

Lindsey:

Blue Letter
Book of Love
That's the Way Love Goes

Stevie:

Sisters
Running Through the Garden
Affairs of the Heart

...but I want sloppy! I crave unrehearsed, off-the-cuff and spontaneous. I desire genuine desire from the band, but alas, that is all in the past. Therefore, I won't be seeing this band in concert again.

Lindsey

The Ledge
Walk a Thin Line
Tango in the Night

Stevie

Seven Wonders
Sisters of the Moon
That's Alright

This is hard to limit to 3!

Stevie
Frozen Love
Angel
Straight Back

Lindsey
Don't Let Me Down Again
What Makes You Think You're The One
Miranda

I'm not putting it on my list but I'll also admit a fondness for "When I See You Again". There's a good song in there somewhere, I swear. I'd also love to hear "California Dreaming", for wishful thinking. Anyway:

Buckingham
1. The Ledge
2. Blue Letter
3. What Makes You Think You're the One?
(After these would be Not That Funny, Can't Go Back, and Miranda)

Nicks
1. Angel
2T. That's Alright
2T. Fireflies
(After these would be the angrier Smile At You, Beautiful Child, and either SOTM or Straight Back).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sleepless-Child (Post 1075516)

So today i feel in the mood for unrealistic suggestions, so...

Stevie Nicks -
If you were my love (band version)
That's alright
Twisted

Lindsey Buckingham -
The Ledge
Book of love
Tango in the night

I think I love you!

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Originally Posted by FierySequences (Post 1076274)

I think I love you!

:laugh: then me too!!

And at least three of them would make great Buckingham/Nicks moments, that's what Mick wanted right?

Out of curiosity I tallied the thread so far:

LB (counting the 4 people who gave 4 songs)
12 Tango in the Night
12 The Ledge
9 What Makes You Think You're the One
6 Caroline
5 Walk a Thin Line
5 Miranda
4 Book of Love
3 Blue Letter
3 Can't Go Back
3 Save Me A Place
2 Murrow Turning Over
2 Not That Funny
1 Bleed to Love Her
1 Don't Let Me Down Again
1 Peacekeeper
1 Steal Your Heart Away
1 That's Enough For Me
1 That's The Way Love Goes

SN
12 Sisters of the Moon
10 Angel
10 That's Alright
3 Destiny Rules
3 Everybody Finds Out
3 I Don't Wanna Know
3 Running Through the Garden
3 Seven Wonders
3 Smile At You
2 Crystal
2 Freedom
2 No Questions Asked
2 Straight Back
2 Thrown Down
2 When I See You Again
1 Sorcerer
1 If You Were My Love
1 Twisted
1 Affairs of the Heart
1 Frozen Love
1 Fireflies
1 The Second Time

Two of my three picks are in the top three for each, so as far as imaginary points go I'm pretty happy.

Stevie:
Dreams (that will never happen i'm just saying that I could go without it)
When I See You Again
That's Alright

Lindsey:
Big Love
Can't Go Back
Monday Morning

I would still like them to play Station Man from Kiln House, they wont... but still.

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Originally Posted by cantgoback (Post 1077489)

i'm not sure what you listed? you have one "hit" song and 2 "deep cuts" from each. we are trying to collect suggestions for 3 deep cuts from each songwriter, and songs have to be their FM songs, not solo. do you want to add one more deep cut to each?

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Originally Posted by redbird (Post 1077487)

ha - thanks so much for doing that - i was planning to tally these eventually but never got around to it. :)

we will also need to remove solo songs from these lists because they are tallied in the separate threads.

my intention is to eventually put together the setlist consisting of the most mentioned deep cuts, solo songs and regular hits that we were voting on / collecting in several different threads.

With the loss of Bob Welch this year, I think he should be represented (we'll hear enough Lindsey & Stevie):

Hypnotized
&
Sentimental Lady

Frozen Love only 1 vote after it won that other poll? Wow...

Where would Buckingham Nicks songs go? And when it comes to it, wasn't "Frozen Love" written by both?