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jbrownsjr 04-08-2016 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by paleshadow (Post 1180695)
I don't know but I thought it was "You got it made" not "he got away"? Plus isn't it "A tear in a Clown's eye"? :shrug:

I won't argue. I sometimes mishear lyrics.

MikeVielhaber 04-09-2016 02:56 AM

Yeah, I've always heard "you got a way, I can't fight it". And really that makes the most sense

jessej 04-09-2016 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber (Post 1180739)
Yeah, I've always heard "you got a way, I can't fight it". And really that makes the most sense

Im hearing that too , but it is hard to tell ! Either way i love it .....

jbrownsjr 04-09-2016 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber (Post 1180739)
Yeah, I've always heard "you got a way, I can't fight it". And really that makes the most sense

I think that's what I meant to type. Now, I'm so confused. lol Who knows what I meant.? :p

vivfox 04-09-2016 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Wdm6789 (Post 1180682)
Hold Me and Gypsy. That is all.

To me I thought you meant, "that is all" of the songs you want remixed.

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1180684)
It's called, That's Allright.. not That is all. :shrug:

Well no. Actually it is titled That's Alright.(spelling:p)

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Originally Posted by Wdm6789 (Post 1180705)
Ahh yes. How could I forget.

We will never forget tonight. It'll be alright.

jbrownsjr 04-09-2016 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1180747)
To me I thought you meant, "that is all" of the songs you want remixed.


Well no. Actually it is titled That's Alright.(spelling:p)


We will never forget tonight. It'll be alright.

You you you you and meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

aleuzzi 04-09-2016 10:20 AM

Love in Store never fails to excite me. It has that buzz, that thrilling hum that comes from new love. The lyric is about the joy of physical attraction and romantic infatuation. The music reflects that joy perfectly. I even love how the song opens, with Mick kicking the song, and the album into gear.

Macfan4life 04-09-2016 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1180755)
Love in Store never fails to excite me. It has that buzz, that thrilling hum that comes from new love. The lyric is about the joy of physical attraction and romantic infatuation. The music reflects that joy perfectly. I even love how the song opens, with Mick kicking the song, and the album into gear.

You hit the nail on the head....took the words right out of my mouth :eek: I could not agree more!
The lyrics are simple but so much from the heart. It reminds you of your first Jr. High school crush (maybe because I was in 7th grade when this song came out).
The background vocals are almost sappy but so magical with harmony. Chris has always written love songs but this one seems to be an attempt at a pop song and it works like magic. The beat kicks in and is steady and has a very poppy, catchy vibe that is easy to sing along with. The song translates live perfectly. One of my favorite images of the commercial Mirage tour release is when Stevie is turned to Chris singing "you're the only I ever felt... could be special to me" Stevie is having so much fun singing back up it makes you fall in love with the song all over again. Some amazing guitar work live on the song too.
I hope so much for this gem to be added to the setlist next tour. If we cant get Hold Me then please Chris must pick this song from Mirage.

paleshadow 04-09-2016 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber (Post 1180739)
Yeah, I've always heard "you got a way, I can't fight it". And really that makes the most sense

Yes, you're right, that does make sense since the lyric in the verse is "You've got a way of lifting me up instead of bringing me down".

WayOfTheDragon 04-09-2016 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1180761)
I hope so much for this gem to be added to the setlist next tour. If we cant get Hold Me then please Chris must pick this song from Mirage.

Love In Store would make a good concert opener.

shackin'up 04-10-2016 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1180683)
I loved on that album, as Love in Store was ending.

....... he got away......... can't fight it.........

then silence... little record hiss.. .. and.....

... do do do do do... Standing in the shadows.. man I used to be... wanna go back.. can't go baccccccccccccck can't go back...


such a sweet melody and beautiful keyboards and backing vocals...

......... a tear in a cloud's eye.. wanna go back.. can't go back.. can't go back...


It gave me chills it was so good on record album.
Why that song was cut without a bridge is beyond me.. Lindsey undersells his work on this.

I remember listening to side one when it came out and was totally overwhelmed by the hopeful yet melancholic feel of the songs. It still is only really enjoyable on vinyl. The shytty digital mix is aweful. Especially the simple deep pumping bassparts are killed on the CD version. And on the spotifytracks too.

mitzo 04-10-2016 03:12 PM

Looking at this story about Mirage I cannot help but feel a rising sense of despair. This band has produced nothing new in 16 full years and we are clutching at a reissue of something from 34 years ago. I guess I really do not give a damn. Anymore.

Macfan4life 04-10-2016 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mitzo (Post 1180787)
Looking at this story about Mirage I cannot help but feel a rising sense of despair. This band has produced nothing new in 16 full years and we are clutching at a reissue of something from 34 years ago. I guess I really do not give a damn. Anymore.

Say You Will 2003
In the Meantime 2004 (McVie solo)
In Your Dreams 2011 (Nicks solo)
Extended play 2013
24k Gold 2014 (Nicks solo)

I may have left something out. If you add in the long tours, this band has been quite busy producing new material despite being a classic rock band who lost a pivotal member for 16 years. It was daring to do albums without Lindsey and then Christine. But they pulled through with new material
I value quality over quantity. I hope the Mac takes their time recording the new album.
I LOVE Mirage and most very early 80s music. To have out takes, demos, unleashed tracks, or re-mastered tracks is just as exciting as new material. The short Mirage era is probably my favorite era in Mac history. That is when I became a fan.

aleuzzi 04-10-2016 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by mitzo (Post 1180787)
Looking at this story about Mirage I cannot help but feel a rising sense of despair. This band has produced nothing new in 16 full years and we are clutching at a reissue of something from 34 years ago. I guess I really do not give a damn. Anymore.

I hear ya. We should be celebrating the new music that isn't getting issued. I'm glad to hear there's a Mirage reissue, but that should be a side course, not the entree.

elle 04-10-2016 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1180790)
Say You Will 2003
In the Meantime 2004 (McVie solo)
In Your Dreams 2011 (Nicks solo)
Extended play 2013
24k Gold 2014 (Nicks solo)

I may have left something out.

yeah, something!

Under the Skin 2006 (Buckingham solo)
Gift of Screws 2008 (Buckingham solo)
Seeds We Sow 2011 (Buckingham solo)

Songs from the Small Machine 2011 (live, Buckingham solo)
One Man Show 2012 (live, Buckingham solo)

mitzo 04-10-2016 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1180790)
Say You Will 2003
In the Meantime 2004 (McVie solo)
In Your Dreams 2011 (Nicks solo)
Extended play 2013
24k Gold 2014 (Nicks solo)

I may have left something out. If you add in the long tours, this band has been quite busy producing new material despite being a classic rock band who lost a pivotal member for 16 years. It was daring to do albums without Lindsey and then Christine. But they pulled through with new material
I value quality over quantity. I hope the Mac takes their time recording the new album.
I LOVE Mirage and most very early 80s music. To have out takes, demos, unleashed tracks, or re-mastered tracks is just as exciting as new material. The short Mirage era is probably my favorite era in Mac history. That is when I became a fan.

Ok nothing new in 13 years from FM. Stevie has given us two good full albums in the past five years but the band as a whole is a dinosaur now. I await solo things from Stevie but have given up on FM for now.

MikeVielhaber 04-10-2016 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1180790)
Say You Will 2003
In the Meantime 2004 (McVie solo)
In Your Dreams 2011 (Nicks solo)
Extended play 2013
24k Gold 2014 (Nicks solo)

I may have left something out. If you add in the long tours, this band has been quite busy producing new material despite being a classic rock band who lost a pivotal member for 16 years. It was daring to do albums without Lindsey and then Christine. But they pulled through with new material
I value quality over quantity. I hope the Mac takes their time recording the new album.
I LOVE Mirage and most very early 80s music. To have out takes, demos, unleashed tracks, or re-mastered tracks is just as exciting as new material. The short Mirage era is probably my favorite era in Mac history. That is when I became a fan.

Solo albums actually are the band NOT producing. I don't consider Stevie, Lindsey or Christine albums to be Fleetwood Mac albums and I wouldn't be clamoring so hard for something from this band if they had actually been producing new music over those years. They can go on doing solo stuff for the rest of their lives if they wish, that doesn't mean anything for the band.

Also long tours is them also not producing new music. It's them wanting to do something (and make the monies) but not actually have to be creative together. I saw them in 2004 on the SYW tour and skipped the subsequent tours in 2009 and 2013 because, unless the tickets were cheap and they weren't, I didn't need to see them again playing mostly the same show with no new music. I skipped the OWTS tour (they came here twice) because, one, the tickets were way too high, two, I assume they would be touring again except promoting a new album. OWTS was basically The Dance part 2 except nearly 20 years older and no new songs. I don't need the nostalgia/greatest hits tours unless the tickets are cheap and they never are. I'll support them if they're giving me something new.

mitzo 04-10-2016 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber (Post 1180804)
Solo albums actually are the band NOT producing. I don't consider Stevie, Lindsey or Christine albums to be Fleetwood Mac albums and I wouldn't be clamoring so hard for something from this band if they had actually been producing new music over those years. They can go on doing solo stuff for the rest of their lives if they wish, that doesn't mean anything for the band.

Also long tours is them also not producing new music. It's them wanting to do something (and make the monies) but not actually have to be creative together. I saw them in 2004 on the SYW tour and skipped the subsequent tours in 2009 and 2013 because, unless the tickets were cheap and they weren't, I didn't need to see them again playing mostly the same show with no new music. I skipped the OWTS tour (they came here twice) because, one, the tickets were way too high, two, I assume they would be touring again except promoting a new album. OWTS was basically The Dance part 2 except nearly 20 years older and no new songs. I don't need the nostalgia/greatest hits tours unless the tickets are cheap and they never are. I'll support them if they're giving me something new.

This exactly. The band is totally moribund to me despite rereleases of ancient albums and oldies tours. I am checking in only to see if any new material appears. I have totally lost interest about reliving the late seventies.

elle 04-10-2016 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mitzo (Post 1180803)
Ok nothing new in 13 years from FM. Stevie has given us two good full albums in the past five years but the band as a whole is a dinosaur now. I await solo things from Stevie but have given up on FM for now.

yup. since Stevie is stifling the band.

she's also indirectly stifling solo work of other songwriters in the band. Lindsey has given us 3 great full length solo albums and 2 live albums in the last 10 years, but he put solo albums on back burner after 2012, when it started to look like FM album actually had some chance of going forward creatively. putting the band first (while not every songwriter in the band did!) is stifling Lindsey's solo productivity. :distress:

Macfan4life 04-11-2016 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber (Post 1180804)
Solo albums actually are the band NOT producing. I don't consider Stevie, Lindsey or Christine albums to be Fleetwood Mac albums and I wouldn't be clamoring so hard for something from this band if they had actually been producing new music over those years. They can go on doing solo stuff for the rest of their lives if they wish, that doesn't mean anything for the band.

Also long tours is them also not producing new music. It's them wanting to do something (and make the monies) but not actually have to be creative together. I saw them in 2004 on the SYW tour and skipped the subsequent tours in 2009 and 2013 because, unless the tickets were cheap and they weren't, I didn't need to see them again playing mostly the same show with no new music. I skipped the OWTS tour (they came here twice) because, one, the tickets were way too high, two, I assume they would be touring again except promoting a new album. OWTS was basically The Dance part 2 except nearly 20 years older and no new songs. I don't need the nostalgia/greatest hits tours unless the tickets are cheap and they never are. I'll support them if they're giving me something new.

You are missing my point.
Classic rock bands from the same era that have toured over the past 20 years have put out much less new material than Fleetwood Mac. The Eagles, Journey, Rolling Stones, etc. I could go on forever. Records do not sell anymore and the Mac lost key members but they have still done recordings. I included some of the solo work because it is icing on the cake. During half a decade in the mid 80s all we were able to get was solo work. I love the solo projects in the early/mid 80s. They kept the band together allowing the members to explore musically away from the band. I LOVE Say You Will. Its one of the band's best albums. But I equally love In the Meantime. Christine has the knack of creating perfect songs and I will take them however I can get them..... solo or with the Mac. In a nutshell....the Mac and its members are not a typical classic rock touring band. They still create songs. That is not the typical super group of the 70's for sure.

estranged4life 04-11-2016 01:05 PM

I agree with you...
 
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Originally Posted by mitzo (Post 1180805)
This exactly. The band is totally moribund to me despite rereleases of ancient albums and oldies tours. I am checking in only to see if any new material appears. I have totally lost interest about reliving the late seventies.

sad to say.

tabruns 04-11-2016 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1180732)
I do, too. She's telling a story a little more straightforward than usual.

"Meet me down by the railway station, I've been a waiting, I'm through waiting, for you."

I immediately know what's going and and want to know what happened. I thought it was a nice compliment to Gypsy which reminisces of her NOCAL days. Now she's moving on with her career and love life. I'm not a country fan, but the music is so fitting to the lyrics. The harmonies of CM and LB are sublime as well.

Thing about "That's Alright" is that I think it needed some pizzazz production wise. There is a nice counterpoint woodblock percussion in the song but its mixed so far down that you barely hear it. Had that been more prominent, I think it would have given the song more of a hook than it has.

FuzzyPlum 04-11-2016 03:15 PM

While Mirage is topical...
...I wonder whether anyone can offer me a theory as to why Gypsy wasn't a smash hit single. Don't get me wrong- it did okay to claw its way to US #12 but it wasn't the big hit it should have been.

Stevie was a big star on the back of Bella Donna and they made one of the all-time great videos to accompany the song. The video had heavy play on MTV. The previous single Hold Me had just been a big hit spending about two months in the top 10 so they were in the public eye/consciousness at the time of it's release.

And yet it debuted at US #69 on 4th Sept and then went #57, #46, #35, #27, #21, #15, #12, #12, #12. Clearly a slow burner.
Gypsy only reached #46 in the UK (admittedly only Oh Diane did well in the UK) and didn't break the top 10 in any major music buying country.

It's a shame and a bit odd it's chart placings didn't reflect it's true glory.

James89 04-11-2016 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1180813)
While Mirage is topical...
...I wonder whether anyone can offer me a theory as to why Gypsy wasn't a smash hit single. Don't get me wrong- it did okay to claw its way to US #12 but it wasn't the big hit it should have been.

Stevie was a big star on the back of Bella Donna and they made one of the all-time great videos to accompany the song. The video had heavy play on MTV. The previous single Hold Me had just been a big hit spending about two months in the top 10 so they were in the public eye/consciousness at the time of it's release.

And yet it debuted at US #69 on 4th Sept and then went #57, #46, #35, #27, #21, #15, #12, #12, #12. Clearly a slow burner.
Gypsy only reached #46 in the UK (admittedly only Oh Diane did well in the UK) and didn't break the top 10 in any major music buying country.

It's a shame and a bit odd it's chart placings didn't reflect it's true glory.

I've never understood why Gypsy only ever reached #12 but I can understand why it didn't in other places, especially here in the UK, because the Mac had decreased in popularity and Stevie was not huge as a solo artist.

The only comparison I can make is to Edge of Seventeen. That song is Stevie's most popular, most iconic and famous and yet it wasn't her most successful in terms of chart positions or sales. If you told people that Edge of Seventeen reached #1 they probably wouldn't bat an eyelid but it only reached #11. So did Rhiannon! It's all very weird...

FuzzyPlum 04-11-2016 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by tabruns (Post 1180812)
Thing about "That's Alright" is that I think it needed some pizzazz production wise. There is a nice counterpoint woodblock percussion in the song but its mixed so far down that you barely hear it. Had that been more prominent, I think it would have given the song more of a hook than it has.

Each to their own...
...but noooooooooooo waaaaaayyyyyyyy.

I don't think it needed any pizzazz- its just great as it is. In fact I love the demo that's even more basic.
I can hear the wood block very clearly- its a nice little touch and adds something a bit different but I don't see any advantage in it being any more prominent than it is.

I like the line '...I must have been crazy, crazy to wait on you baby'. I wonder if that's a link to her waitressing job and doing everything for Lindsey in the BN days (at which time this was written)?

FuzzyPlum 04-11-2016 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by James89 (Post 1180814)
I've never understood why Gypsy only ever reached #12 but I can understand why it didn't in other places, especially here in the UK, because the Mac had decreased in popularity and Stevie was not huge as a solo artist.

The only comparison I can make is to Edge of Seventeen. That song is Stevie's most popular, most iconic and famous and yet it wasn't her most successful in terms of chart positions or sales. If you told people that Edge of Seventeen reached #1 they probably wouldn't bat an eyelid but it only reached #11. So did Rhiannon! It's all very weird...

Yes, I can understand it in the UK- Mirage is by far the least lauded album by the 'classic' band in the UK, perhaps because they didn't tour here. Mirage was quite a US-centric period of time. Mainly surprised by its performance in the US and Canada.
I'm actually surprised Hold Me didnt chart at all in the UK though. I would have thought that would have had much more of an appeal to the UK audience at that time.

Macfan4life 04-11-2016 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by James89 (Post 1180814)
I've never understood why Gypsy only ever reached #12 but I can understand why it didn't in other places, especially here in the UK, because the Mac had decreased in popularity and Stevie was not huge as a solo artist.

The only comparison I can make is to Edge of Seventeen. That song is Stevie's most popular, most iconic and famous and yet it wasn't her most successful in terms of chart positions or sales. If you told people that Edge of Seventeen reached #1 they probably wouldn't bat an eyelid but it only reached #11. So did Rhiannon! It's all very weird...

Having chart hits at #11 and #12 are HUGE HITS
If a rock band charts at #12 on the pop charts, it probably is top 5 on rock stations. In addition during the 80s most of us heard most of the songs watching MTV over the radio. Gypsy was a huge MTV staple.
Hold Me is an instant hit from the first time you hear it. It got locked at #4 for weeks because I think there was some huge pop song locked at #1 for weeks.
I wish Love In Store was the first single WITH a video. I think that song would have made top 10 instead of 22.

Trivia question about charts. What is the biggest #2 single of all time?
Foreigner..waiting for a girl like you spent 10 weeks at #2. Olivia Newton John's Physical was at #1 for 9 weeks :eek:

James89 04-11-2016 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1180817)
Olivia Newton John's Physical was at #1 for 9 weeks :eek:

How it was I'll never know. What I do know is that Stevie's Bella Donna outsold her album and she thus became the best selling female album artist in the US in both 1981 and 1982. And she had a #1 album with Mirage in 1982!

My god. From 1981-1983, Stevie really was extremely popular. An extremely popular solo artist that was just as popular in a legendary band. Wow. She must have earned a lot of money in those three years. 3 extremely successful albums and tours.

jbrownsjr 04-11-2016 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tabruns (Post 1180812)
Thing about "That's Alright" is that I think it needed some pizzazz production wise. There is a nice counterpoint woodblock percussion in the song but its mixed so far down that you barely hear it. Had that been more prominent, I think it would have given the song more of a hook than it has.

Gosh, I think besides the bad cd transfer, I think it's amazing the way it is. Fleetwood Mac at it's best.

MikeInNV 04-11-2016 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1180817)
Trivia question about charts. What is the biggest #2 single of all time?
Foreigner..waiting for a girl like you spent 10 weeks at #2. Olivia Newton John's Physical was at #1 for 9 weeks :eek:

Actually "Physical" was #1 for a total of 10 weeks.

You are right about Foreigner and the most weeks at #2. Do you know which song spent the most weeks at #3? SDMHA.

MikeInNV 04-11-2016 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1180813)
While Mirage is topical...
...I wonder whether anyone can offer me a theory as to why Gypsy wasn't a smash hit single. Don't get me wrong- it did okay to claw its way to US #12 but it wasn't the big hit it should have been.

Stevie was a big star on the back of Bella Donna and they made one of the all-time great videos to accompany the song. The video had heavy play on MTV. The previous single Hold Me had just been a big hit spending about two months in the top 10 so they were in the public eye/consciousness at the time of it's release.

And yet it debuted at US #69 on 4th Sept and then went #57, #46, #35, #27, #21, #15, #12, #12, #12. Clearly a slow burner.
Gypsy only reached #46 in the UK (admittedly only Oh Diane did well in the UK) and didn't break the top 10 in any major music buying country.

It's a shame and a bit odd it's chart placings didn't reflect it's true glory.

Given how much I heard it on the radio and how often I saw the video on MTV, I was as shocked as anyone that it didn't make the Top 10. I seem to remember Casey Kasem commenting on this, either expecting it to be huge when it was released or expressing surprise after the fact that it didn't get higher. I can't quite remember the details.

But it doesn't really matter. The charts measure the song's popularity at the time, but they can't tell you what the lasting legacy will be. Between classic rock, adult contemporary, and pop hits stations, I still hear "Gypsy" on the radio at least once a week. In contrast, I haven't heard "Big Love" since the year it was released.

Someone else already made the point about EO17 being Stevie's most iconic song, and there are lots of other examples with other bands too. Heart's classic "Crazy on You" only made it to #35, and that's still played all the time. Some of their Top 10 hits like "Nothin' At All" and "All I Wanna Do Is Make Love to You" seem like distant memories.

DauphineMarie 04-11-2016 10:19 PM

These are great examples, but even pertaining to Fleetwood Mac, Landslide wasn't ever released as a single, yet is probably their "biggest hit". Go Your Own Way only got to #10 US and #38 UK, but is probably close with Landslide, in terms of popularity.. Really there is no rhyme or reason as to what is successful as far as singles are concerned with this band... I think Gypsy could have been a bigger hit had it been released as the first single off the album. I also think Straight Back should have been the third single, instead of Love in Store... It's nice, but I just think they needed something more "punchy". Personally, I think it would have been advantageous. :shrug:

I found this, the Billboard US charts the week Gypsy peaked, and I think it's rather interesting:

1 1 JACK AND DIANE –•– John Cougar (Riva)-14 (4 weeks at #1) (1)
2 2 WHO CAN IT BE NOW –•– Men At Work (Columbia)-16 (2)
3 3 EYE IN THE SKY –•– The Alan Parsons Project (Arista)-17 (3)
4 6 I KEEP FORGETTIN’ (Every Time You’re Near) –•– Michael McDonald (Warner Brothers)-12 (4)
5 11 UP WHERE WE BELONG –•– Joe Cocker and Jennifer Warnes (Island)-10 (5)
6 9 HEART ATTACK –•– Olivia Newton-John (MCA)-8 (6)
7 7 SOMEBODY’S BABY –•– Jackson Browne (Asylum)-13 (7)
8 8 YOU CAN DO MAGIC –•– America (Capitol)-13 (8)
9 10 I RAN (So Far Away) –•– A Flock Of Seagulls (Jive)-16 (9)
10 5 ABRACADABRA –•– The Steve Miller Band (Capitol)-22 (1)

11 13 BREAK IT TO ME GENTLY –•– Juice Newton (Capitol)-10 (11)
12 15 GYPSY –•– Fleetwood Mac (Warner Brothers)-8 (12)

FuzzyPlum 04-12-2016 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DauphineMarie (Post 1180825)
These are great examples, but even pertaining to Fleetwood Mac, Landslide wasn't ever released as a single, yet is probably their "biggest hit". Go Your Own Way only got to #10 US and #38 UK, but is probably close with Landslide, in terms of popularity.. Really there is no rhyme or reason as to what is successful as far as singles are concerned with this band... I think Gypsy could have been a bigger hit had it been released as the first single off the album. I also think Straight Back should have been the third single, instead of Love in Store... It's nice, but I just think they needed something more "punchy". Personally, I think it would have been advantageous. :shrug:

I found this, the Billboard US charts the week Gypsy peaked, and I think it's rather interesting:

1 1 JACK AND DIANE –•– John Cougar (Riva)-14 (4 weeks at #1) (1)
2 2 WHO CAN IT BE NOW –•– Men At Work (Columbia)-16 (2)
3 3 EYE IN THE SKY –•– The Alan Parsons Project (Arista)-17 (3)
4 6 I KEEP FORGETTIN’ (Every Time You’re Near) –•– Michael McDonald (Warner Brothers)-12 (4)
5 11 UP WHERE WE BELONG –•– Joe Cocker and Jennifer Warnes (Island)-10 (5)
6 9 HEART ATTACK –•– Olivia Newton-John (MCA)-8 (6)
7 7 SOMEBODY’S BABY –•– Jackson Browne (Asylum)-13 (7)
8 8 YOU CAN DO MAGIC –•– America (Capitol)-13 (8)
9 10 I RAN (So Far Away) –•– A Flock Of Seagulls (Jive)-16 (9)
10 5 ABRACADABRA –•– The Steve Miller Band (Capitol)-22 (1)

11 13 BREAK IT TO ME GENTLY –•– Juice Newton (Capitol)-10 (11)
12 15 GYPSY –•– Fleetwood Mac (Warner Brothers)-8 (12)


It was a good time for music. I didn't think I knew Jack and Diane but a quick search on Youtube reminds me of the tune- brings back memories I didn't know I had. Abracadabra was one of the big songs that was number one at that time- I think that was at #1 when Hold Me was in the charts. Up Where We Belong- another big hitter.

At the same time though, some of the songs on this list can only be described as rather forgettable.

jbrownsjr 04-12-2016 01:53 PM

Hold Me was huge. It was so nice to see a duet by Christine and Lindsey do so well. Don't Stop was huge ( I think #3) Think About Me wasn't as big (#20), but Hold Me (#4) was all over MTV and the radio. It was so different than what was on the charts at the time. I remember seeing Christine McVie's name everywhere, around that time. I love the duets they do, and Tango had even more from Christine and Lindsey. They are a wonderful writing duo feeding each other's muse.

Macfan4life 04-12-2016 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DauphineMarie (Post 1180825)
These are great examples, but even pertaining to Fleetwood Mac, Landslide wasn't ever released as a single, yet is probably their "biggest hit". Go Your Own Way only got to #10 US and #38 UK, but is probably close with Landslide, in terms of popularity.. Really there is no rhyme or reason as to what is successful as far as singles are concerned with this band... I think Gypsy could have been a bigger hit had it been released as the first single off the album. I also think Straight Back should have been the third single, instead of Love in Store... It's nice, but I just think they needed something more "punchy". Personally, I think it would have been advantageous. :shrug:

I found this, the Billboard US charts the week Gypsy peaked, and I think it's rather interesting:

1 1 JACK AND DIANE –•– John Cougar (Riva)-14 (4 weeks at #1) (1)
2 2 WHO CAN IT BE NOW –•– Men At Work (Columbia)-16 (2)
3 3 EYE IN THE SKY –•– The Alan Parsons Project (Arista)-17 (3)
4 6 I KEEP FORGETTIN’ (Every Time You’re Near) –•– Michael McDonald (Warner Brothers)-12 (4)
5 11 UP WHERE WE BELONG –•– Joe Cocker and Jennifer Warnes (Island)-10 (5)
6 9 HEART ATTACK –•– Olivia Newton-John (MCA)-8 (6)
7 7 SOMEBODY’S BABY –•– Jackson Browne (Asylum)-13 (7)
8 8 YOU CAN DO MAGIC –•– America (Capitol)-13 (8)
9 10 I RAN (So Far Away) –•– A Flock Of Seagulls (Jive)-16 (9)
10 5 ABRACADABRA –•– The Steve Miller Band (Capitol)-22 (1)

11 13 BREAK IT TO ME GENTLY –•– Juice Newton (Capitol)-10 (11)
12 15 GYPSY –•– Fleetwood Mac (Warner Brothers)-8 (12)

That list explains why Gypsy got stuck at #12. Many on that list either hit #1 or #2 and were some of the biggest hits of 1982

elle 04-12-2016 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DauphineMarie (Post 1180825)
These are great examples, but even pertaining to Fleetwood Mac, Landslide wasn't ever released as a single, yet is probably their "biggest hit". Go Your Own Way only got to #10 US and #38 UK, but is probably close with Landslide, in terms of popularity.. Really there is no rhyme or reason as to what is successful as far as singles are concerned with this band... I think Gypsy could have been a bigger hit had it been released as the first single off the album. I also think Straight Back should have been the third single, instead of Love in Store... It's nice, but I just think they needed something more "punchy". Personally, I think it would have been advantageous. :shrug:

I found this, the Billboard US charts the week Gypsy peaked, and I think it's rather interesting:

1 1 JACK AND DIANE –•– John Cougar (Riva)-14 (4 weeks at #1) (1)
2 2 WHO CAN IT BE NOW –•– Men At Work (Columbia)-16 (2)
3 3 EYE IN THE SKY –•– The Alan Parsons Project (Arista)-17 (3)
4 6 I KEEP FORGETTIN’ (Every Time You’re Near) –•– Michael McDonald (Warner Brothers)-12 (4)
5 11 UP WHERE WE BELONG –•– Joe Cocker and Jennifer Warnes (Island)-10 (5)
6 9 HEART ATTACK –•– Olivia Newton-John (MCA)-8 (6)
7 7 SOMEBODY’S BABY –•– Jackson Browne (Asylum)-13 (7)
8 8 YOU CAN DO MAGIC –•– America (Capitol)-13 (8)
9 10 I RAN (So Far Away) –•– A Flock Of Seagulls (Jive)-16 (9)
10 5 ABRACADABRA –•– The Steve Miller Band (Capitol)-22 (1)

11 13 BREAK IT TO ME GENTLY –•– Juice Newton (Capitol)-10 (11)
12 15 GYPSY –•– Fleetwood Mac (Warner Brothers)-8 (12)

thanks for digging out and sharing this list - very cool to see. some of the songs that are staples on classic rock radio and seemingly still unavoidable everywhere else on this list!

i'd add the Chain to the list of biggest most well known FM songs that were never singles. at least Landslide was a highly successful single when covered by another band, which brought it back and into focus. it's definitely interesting to see which songs are the most enduring vs which were the biggest charting hits when they first came out.

johnnystorms 04-14-2016 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1180842)
That list explains why Gypsy got stuck at #12. Many on that list either hit #1 or #2 and were some of the biggest hits of 1982

except for Jack and Diane, none of them are currently played , and not even J&D as often as

AnthonyMI 04-14-2016 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnystorms (Post 1180880)
except for Jack and Diane, none of them are currently played , and not even J&D as often as

All there are currently played, every single day, on the Big 80s on 8 on XM! Including Gypsy.

Terrestrial Radio is dead. It is all just Radio Blah Blah. Radio Ga Ga. Radio Blah Blah.

Macfan4life 04-14-2016 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyMI (Post 1180886)
All there are currently played, every single day, on the Big 80s on 8 on XM! Including Gypsy.

Terrestrial Radio is dead. It is all just Radio Blah Blah. Radio Ga Ga. Radio Blah Blah.

Most of them are played on adult contemporary stations too. Jack and Diane, Eye in the Sky, Up Where we belong, You can do magic, and I keep Forgettin are staples on A/C stations all over the country. Just looking at the list reminds me of waiting in a dentist's office :eek:

Wdm6789 04-15-2016 09:34 AM

I still hear Gypsy and Hold Me on FM radio. I also hear them frequently on satellite radio.


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