Yes and no. When LB left it was a huge story. When SN left many people were surprised the MAC was still touring. The point remains the same. Stevie has never had what she views as the swooning over absence.

Yikes. That wasn't easy to listen to.

Maybe the MAC needs to do a Beatles type of John Lennon type thing and take some old Stevie demos and build some music around those.

interesting! i have seen tons of tweets of people claiming how these performances are great example of just how much SN songs need LB to make them into something listenable. not the message she was going for, i'm sure. :lol:

Honestly, that was downright terrible. A far cry from the way she sang w/ FM in LA.

I thought hte Blue Water video was beautiful.

I must say I really loved the way she sang Blue Water in this video.I'm not hearing the nails on the chalkboard.....:shrug:

Elle - can you post a link to the tweets b/c I so don't "get" twitter and I want to read the tweets about Blue Water(amongst other things).Sorry,I'm a FB person:p

But that's not how Blue Water sounds on the record at all. Dave Stewart's production is great on the song -- which is not something I say lightly. In fact, it sounds pretty sublime, although I made merciless fun of Charles Kelley before I heard him on the record. Maybe I have something against tall guys. Sorry, Mick.

This is the best song about a goldfish and a ladybug that you will ever hear, Elle.

Michele

Studio version (24K) FM should have put it on a record.

So, Christine's songs would benefit from Lindsey's production, while Stevie's would benefit from a shredder?

Why the hell would Stevie want to look the problem? She's coming off really bad here. Many fans are pissed at her. I doubt she would willingly be the fall guy for fake drama. She's just acting like a diva for real. UGH.

I had another thought about the whole thing. Could it be Stevie is pissed that none of the band has even mentioned her new album to her? I wonder if they would have simply said how great it is she would be more into a new album. I mean when Silver Springs was left off Rumors she didn't talk to them for months. Just a thought.

She's been avoiding the album subject long before her album came out.

Didn't both Mick and Christine attend Stevie's Polaroid show in New York? It's unlikely that her album went acknowledged. I don't think she ever expects too much praise from the Fleetwood Mac camp. There was little support from them when she went off and made Bella Donna. Around the same time, Lindsey released his solo debut Law and Order. In an press interview, he commented that he thought his album was better than hers.

By now, Stevie is used to having Fleetwood Mac (mostly Lindsey) being indifferent to her solo work. She just wants respect.
Obviously she takes herself too seriously. With two dueling divas in the band, there is bound to be tension.

I can see why Lindsey's work on Soldier's Angel was so appealing to him, because it channeled the dark, raw angst that exists in many of his songs. It was the first time he gave some indirect praise to Stevie. They had reignited their chemistry, and he expressed motivation to work with her if she wrote more songs at that level and style.

It's raw, but has a charm to it. But I wish she would drop the novelty of playing the piano, and focus on the vocals. These performances would benefit immensely if accompanied by professional piano player.

Why on earth does she not change her clothes occasionally? Is it that difficult to wear something different - something not black? Have we not had enough of the ever preeminent black bare shoulder dress? The uniform she deems suitable for every and all occasions! She's a genuine original.

Same here...she never claimed to be much of a piano player. I give her props for allowing Rolling Stone to film these as I am sure she was very nervous. And as far as the nasty comments here...they make me chuckle. She can out sing ANYONE in Fleetwood Mac. I don't care who they are...including Christine.

I agree with you, this was a beautiful performance and she sounds really good.

"I love Lindsey. I love him very, very much and I wanted Lindsey to make it and I wanted this album to be as successful as… If this album is more successful than my album, I would be so glad. You know, when "Trouble" (the single from Buckingham’s LP) came out, I was saying, let it go straight to the top. Because it only makes my life easier when Lindsey is happy. ‘Cause when Lindsey is happy, he’s really in a good humor and he’s wonderful and he and I really get along and we’re close. For me, when you love somebody, you want them to be the best."
- Stevie Nicks, 1982

"Lindsey heard Trouble in Shangri-la, and he said, ‘I think it’s the best thing you’ve ever done,’” says Nicks. “That’s about the nicest thing he’s ever said to me. You know, he’s never really acknowledged my solo career. I think maybe he respects me a little more now - maybe he’s finally proud of me."
- Stevie Nicks, 2001

The last we heard, she had not listened to Christine and Lindsey's songs for the new FM album. If she had shown any interest in what they were doing at all, maybe they'd show her the same courtesy.

Michele

Stop stealing Stevie's schtick. She said that if Lindsey said the sky was one color she would be absolutely sure it was another. She doesn't agree with anyone any more than they agree with her.

The persecution complex runs both ways.

Michele

:lol::lol::lol: Thank you!!! {sits back and eats popcorn}

If she's not involved then there are still so many positives. It will give us all the chance to experience a new dynamic. Most of us love Christine/Lindsey collaborations. A whole albums-worth (or even double albums-worth) would be monumental. I'm betting the stuff they've done sounds great.

Hell, they might not sell that many copies but I'm sure it'd be a terrific album- they could even go chasing a Grammy! Everyone would be lauding their critical success.

In the meantime Stevie records another bargain-bin album, falls out with Dave, sees the error of her ways and comes crawling back.

Pleeeeease Christine my lifelong bestest girlfriend. Pleeeeeeease Lindsey Mr musical genius.

They eventually relent, record a final album as a 5 piece, huge tour....etc

To be fair, John's comment was about certain Ledgies, not the other members of Fleetwood Mac.

Other posters think members of the band besides Stevie are victimized.

Michele

My ex roommate was like that -disagreeable on every issue even if she agreed with it deep down inside.Her birthday is 1 day after Stevie's,btw(no insult intended to any Geminis out there):sorry:

Right. I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with you. I just thought you and John were talking about two different things: you about interaction within the band (which does run both ways), and John about Ledgie attitudes toward the band members.

Unprompted comment from my 72-year old mom after the Columbus show:

"Wow, Christine McVie was great. I can't believe she's my age. And Lindsey, wow, he was amazing, and pretty darn cute. But why do they have Stevie Nicks in the band? She can't sing!"

And that was pretty much all she talked about on the ride back to Dayton.

I agree.I never seen so much hatred on this board "I know it sound to blunt" about Stevie with this album issue.The RS clips were great and I got to give her credit for doing them.

Critical analysis should not be mistaken for hate.

of COURSE she said that.

I'm actually beginning to worry about the state of Stevie's voice. I wonder if it will even hold up for another tour if they ever do release that last album

She totally said that. I had to tell her to keep it down.

It all comes down to how Stevie sings a song. For instance, Rolling Stone released a video of Stevie singing Gypsy about a week ago from the same video shoot as this freshly released Blue Water clip. I personally think the Gypsy clip was beautiful- she sang very softly from the back of her throat like she used to back in the 70s, and her tone was gorgeous. It's when she pushes her vocals out from her diaphragm (technically the "correct" way to sing) that her voice sounds strained, thin, nasally, shouty, and off-key. If you look at Stevie's most recent album, 24k Gold, there are examples of how her voice can either still be magnificent (All The Beautiful Worlds) or simply dreadful (Lady). She needs to fire her freaking vocal coach. The techniques he taught her destroy everything that is great about her voice.

She has good taste!

I understand..

since when ?

Hmmmm
 

Turn up the hearing aid Ethel....believe what you want but your Grandma is in the MAJOR MINORITY.

The majority debate. :lol: It's like the 5 year old child that says, more of my friends like this singer so they are better!!! (sticks tongue out, holding a #1 Britney Spears album)

I actually thought the limited range Stevie handled was well done at the Forum. But being able to out sing her colleagues? Hmmmm, listen to Dreams live.

Unfortunately, it's not all critical analysis......
Some just dislike various members of this band. It's not all aimed at Stevie, you have Lindsey and Mick haters too. You can pick them out easily, because they NEVER have anything objective or positive to add to threads such as this one. Sad, but true.
I've been fortunate to see the Mac once already on this tour and I will see them again in March. If that's the end of it, then so be it. If they record a new album, I will be over the moon. If they don't, I'm still thankful for the music, the memories and the wonderful people that I have connected with all because of this band. :angel:

Nothing wrong with Stevie's voice...when I saw them in Houston I thought hers was the strongest and most arena-ready of all three...just my opinion, and you know we all got one :cool: