Stevie said last year that there were two planned tours for 2015, so if that's still the case, and she tours for 24KG after the Mac tour ends (whenever that might be), how could she commit to a record? Because it would seem Christine and Lindsey began recording around the same time as Stevie, and if Stevie had already committed to her solo tour, and the recording of her album, can she really be expected to participate in the recording of the new Mac album? This all sounds like Tango to me. That being said, I highly doubt FM would do a "farewell album" without Stevie.

Mick might want to be careful with what he says because if it backfires he could end up with considerably less than what he started with.

Again, the earliest they could go into the studio to record with Stevie would be in April. Saying she's not on board at this point, especially when she's trying to promote her new album while doing a Fleetwood Mac tour, seems a little disingenuous. There's nothing to be on board with right now.

I think they probably will do another big tour, but they can't do it as early as 2016. Even doing it in 2017 is pushing it, market wise.

Michele

Seeing as how the other 2 were in a major recording studio laying down tracks, I don't think it would be premature of Stevie to say she is willing to do another album now, even if she doesn't get around to it for 9 months. She talked about the SYW album long before she ever went into the studio with the boys, while she was promoting TISL.

Michele

And, it wouldn't be appropriate right now. This tour is about Christine's return, and thus the return of the classic Mac. The material played should reflect this.

You said the same thing last year.

I'm betting they release an album and do a proper tour to promote it. That's what Lindsey said he wanted during last year's tour, to keep the band going without taking an extended break for solo tours. Christine seems to want this, too, and you know Mick and John will be on board. Hopefully, Stevie wants this, too.

Yes I think they will take time off after 2015... Next tour will be 2018 at the earliest...

Remember when Mick cried to Playboy that his band would never tour again, and Stevie was to blame?

She's already touring with Fleetwood Mac instead of promoting an album that was just released. Her focus should be on the present tour and her recently released album, not an album that's at least a year out.

She wasn't juggling promoting multiple projects on the TISL tour. There was some space where she could talk about Fleetwood Mac's future.

She'd be the Davy Jones of Fleetwood Mac.

When people are asking about a future album now, she can address it now. No one is asking her to write songs now. Just say if she's in.

With TISL she was promoting a tour and a new album just like she is right now and that didn't stop her from talking about the upcoming FM project, Christine leaving, the end of The Dance, etc. If you look at the TISL interviews, all of these topics were covered in the articles about her back then.

Michele

Again, though, that tour was in promotion for the album, so it was really just one project. The Fleetwood Mac tour has nothing to do with 24 Karat Gold.

Not me. I didn't say that because I realized that they had to make up the concerts they canceled last year and I also thought they would come back to the U.S. and do some summer sheds. So, I thought they would tour this year. I just didn't know it would be the full blown tour that it has turned out to be.

So, I expected them to tour in 2014 and 2015. But I don't expect them to tour in 2016. I don't know about 2017.

Michele

No one is asking her to work on another project. She's just being asked to SYW.

Besides, this gal knows how to multi-task.

I stand corrected, but I still believe there will be a 2016 tour that will extend into 2017. I think the 2016/17 tour will be in support of a new album, which will have Stevie on it. I think this tour will go through late September, 2015 and the tour in support of the new album will begin in October, 2016. That gives them a year off the road and gives them time to finish the album. Stevie could even do a short spring/summer tour.

I would not doubt that some members of the band (not Stevie) do have a schedule in mind, exactly along the lines you have laid out.

Michele

well i like ... love that too :thumbsup:
but i was thinking most recent and all i could think of that wasn't IYD was YCFT :D

Interesting plan but I don't see it happening... By the end of the tour in 2015 Stevie will have toured with FM 3 years in a row so they are on borrowed time and I certainly don't see Stevie extending it to 4 or 5 years in a row with FM.

Other than speculation from fans, I haven't seen any recent comments from Stevie or the others that suggest she's not on board for the foreseeable future.

If not for Christine's return and John's cancer scare, I'd agree. But the equation changed, and Stevie's attitude about the band's future has also likely changed.

Of course, things could easily change again on this tour. For some reason, though, that they extended the tour seems like a good sign for the band's future.

Thank you, Elle.

Whether the band decides to release a new album or not, they won't be able to do another tour after this without new music. since big money has always been a factor in the decisions these musicians make, new music has to be forthcoming. And it better be. We've all waited decades.

If it has to be sans Stevie, so be it. I love her and all, but the musical chemistry between the remaining four is powerful enough to satisfy my ears.

:lol: Oversaturation? No such thing exists in the Fleetwood Mac/Stevie Nicks camp!

I would hate for what could possibly be Fleetwood Mac's last album to be Stevie free. She could pull a Tango move and make some cursory contributions to the album, then complain about it later. It's rather startling that she isn't inspired at all to work again with Christine in the studio.

Speculation has run rampant. I wish Stevie would address the issue and reassure fans that she is excited to make a new album now that Christine is on board. There will be a some vilification towards her if she doesn't step up and bows out. I'm sure a Lindsey/Christine album is feasible, but it's just not right at this stage in the game for Stevie to disrespect the people and institution who plucked her out of looming obscurity. Three songs and some harmony parts isn't much to ask for. After all, she is not a musician, so she has it much easier than the rest of them. They are carrying most of the weight. "She did her work, but Mac fans were quietly crying. Does she ever feel guilty about not even trying. Sad pampered Stevie."

Take some hard advice Stevie. Go write some real songs!

I think we need to stop speculating so much and just wait and see. In all honesty, if we know anything about the Mac it is that they work in a "last minute decision" style. There could very well be a new album with all five involved as I find it highly unlikely that they would tour again with just the hits...there would not be much justification.

I think, to be honest, that Christine coming back to the band changed everything. Had she not, I do believe that sometime after the 2013 tour there would have been a new album (or at least a more cohesive EP) that the band would at some point tour behind. With Christine coming back, I think the band and their managers saw this as a great way to capitalize. They are essentially doing what they have done in 2009 and 2013, only this time Christine is here. From a marketing standpoint, a greatest hits tour with the whole lineup is big money. I am as glad as anyone to have Christine back and I do think the format of this tour is justified, however I believe it has taken place of working on new Fleetwood Mac music to be released in the near future.

Most likely what will happen is that this tour will last until June 2015. I am sure that Stevie will do some performing for the 24 Karat gold release. To her credit, she has given a lot towards the band this time around as she is not even mentioning her new album at the shows. Stevie is a dedicated Fleetwood Mac member and I am sure that if the band does go on to make a new album, which I hope they do, she will be a part of it.

As a personal side note, I would hate to think that all Stevie would do is "throw the band some other tunes from the vault," to paraphrase another poster. If the band do in fact make a new album it should be heartfelt and creatively invigorating for them (like the work with Buckingham and McVie seems to have been). When I listen to an album by a band I don't want to hear forced music...it needs to be real.

Meh, unless I see a direct quote from Mick I'm taking this with a large grain of salt.

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Of course, now that Stevie's record is out, here all you go again with the b*tching about Stevie "holding back Fleetwood Mac". Let's not take such an innocuous comment Mick said about "persuading Stevie to take part in recording a new album" as her "not being on board". These cats really don't hang out with each other on a regular basis anymore, except to go on tour, promote themselves on interviews and talk shows, make business decisions and record albums. All 5 of these band members have their own "entourages" and "posse" when they tour. It's been like this since Tusk. It is highly possible that Mick and the band really haven't had the opportunity to discuss a new album project with her because this tour is the main focus at the moment.

I'm sure that Stevie is well aware that Lindsey and Chris have been writing new material...and I'm sure, whenever asked, that Stevie will totally be on board with recording a new Fleetwood Mac record. :nod:

I often take Mick with a grain of salt even when it is a direct quote. :D

Having read all the hysteria and jumping to conclusions here, here's my take on it:

More than likely Mick was making a past tense comment, that they had to persuade Stevie to do another FM album but this convincing was not recent, it was likely in tandem with Christine rejoining.

We know they did an EP in 2013 because Nicks felt that "albums just don't sell anymore" and wasn't interested in a full-blown album. We also know she has complained about how Lindsey produced SYW.

But now here she is, still saying that albums don't sell but it doesn't matter. As she said about 24KG "I wanted to do a great record, not a hit record."

I'm guessing that Chris's rejoining the band is probably what convinced Stevie to do another album. That's why Chris and Lindsey have been working out songs while Stevie finished her 24KG album. That's why Christine has said that Stevie will definitely be on the album. That's why Lindsey talks in concert about a new chapter that will bear much fruit.

So when Mick makes an offhand remark about "we had to persuade Stevie to join in" I'm sure that discussion was settled well prior to the current tour.

And that's all fine. I doubt anyone referred to Christine as an egocentric old cow when she chose not to tour or record with FM for 16 years. Just saying there is a double standard here. :shrug:

Right. Well, Stevie is definitely the star (in terms of media attention and solo album sales) so there's inevitable backlash for that, unfair as it may be.

I think a Stevie-less album will sell but not as well. Without Lindsey BTM only went gold. Without Christine SYW also only went gold.

Plus, since Nicks is actually touring with FM I really really really doubt that she isn't already on board to record with them. That just wouldn't make sense; supposedly Christine floated the idea a few years ago of recording with FM but not touring and that was nixed by the rest of the band. I'd be surprised if they let Stevie get away with "touring but no recording".

I read it in another thread on this board, by someone who was at the meet and greet. It was from the "On With the Show Tour" thread. Here is the quote.


[QUOTE=elle;1148962]interesting.

at the m&g in NYC, Mick reportedly said in response to question about their album that they have 27 (i think?) pieces recorded already (would that be 27 whole songs? can't remember?). after follow-up question on why did they not put that out already and what/who is holding the album, he was apparently pretty specific saying something like they need to get Stevie on board and she's not there yet.

:eek::thumbsup::lol:

I still think Stevie hasn't fully committed in any formalized way to an album and I think she is holding out as a negotiating tactic. That's just how albums seem to go with her/them anymore. (SYW and the EP). So whatever is in her heart about a new album, I think (my opinion only) that she's not yet made a firm commitment ("signed the contract" so to speak). Maybe she's waiting to see how the tour plays out vis-a-vis Lindsey; maybe she's still insistent on getting the producer SHE wants; whatever it is, she's hesitating. :shrug:

Honestly, you know, any album they put out is unlikely to sell well, because of their age and because they have been around so long as a band, a lot of people see them as being past it. Stevie or no Stevie, I would be incredibly surprised if a new Fleetwood Mac album went platinum in the US.

Because she retired :shrug:

I WILL say that I didn't like that she got as many songs as Billy, Dave, and Mick COMBINED on "Time".

When Guided by Voices recorded their first post-reunion album, management gave us a gag order because Robert Pollard's other band at the time, Boston Spaceships, just released an album that they were working. I suspect that's what's at play here.

A lot of speculation. Just like when she was not in the studio for the beginning. Then word came out that she had a commitment to Warner Brothers so she had to go do a record.

Stevie has a back log of material. And no doubt she is writing now. If there is a new FM record, Stevie will be on it. It would be senseless to do without her. She is the reason the band has stayed relevant without Christine. She is the one promoting her and the music.

She said she never wanted to be the reason the band split up. Not sure why she would change that tone now as they are nearing the end of their touring life.

They need to get through the tour.

I am not so sure about that anymore. It looks like her glitter is starting to fade. Most of the media attention is on Christine and Lindsey on this tour.....even the fans comments on twitter have mostly focused on those two.

It is interesting to read the comments here where people are saying the band could survive without Stevie....I believe whatever magic she had around her for a long time has faded and the cracks are starting to show and this generation of fans are much less forgiving. Yes, she is a legend, but the glitter does fade and it seems to be fading.

In my opinion Dave Stewart brought the darkness and decline to her career because he over exposed her....there was something enchanting and mystical about her being secluded and untouchable...

thank you !

??? Darkness and decline? Stevie just released one of her best solo albums in 30 years. It was Dave Stewart who gave her the confidence and ability to reach out to a whole new generation of fans. Far from being overexposed, she's finally making an effort (albeit halting at times), to embrace social media and really market herself in a smart and focused way. Dave breathed new life into Stevie, and I'm loving every minute of it. :sorry:

So when Mick makes an offhand remark about "we had to persuade Stevie to join in" I'm sure that discussion was settled well prior to the current tour.[/QUOTE]




Nope. Not even close.

:lol::lol::lol: Oh my God! You should do stand up, sweetie! That's hilarious!

Are you living in a parallel universe? Darkness and decline? Where have YOU been these past 4 years? Dave is responsible for the woman getting stuff done...new albums, documentaries, DVD's, gallery exhibits, need I go on? Overexposed??? Hardly.

If we're going to talk about "darkness and decline" then let's discuss the decade in between TISL and IYD where all she did was tour the "oldies", repackage a "greatest hits" and release a live "greatest hits". Now that's DEFINITELY a period where she seemed "secluded" but there was nothing enchanting or mystical about that at all! :sorry: