Yes I too remember being abused by Ginny...LOL

Bill is actually still posting there on the newsgroup, only now there isn't anyone to respond to him. I mean this is 10 years later and he's still there, his Stevie hate must still be burning.

Oh and there was the guy who used to talk about the "blue wire" (in his head?) and think he was communicating with Stevie. He was actually scary.

LOL. James Nalbandian.

Drew!! Yes!! Drew was from outside the U.S., & Drew was very intelligent & literate & didn't brook much in the way of idiocy (by design) from others. Drew loved me, but those were the days before I began to manifest signs of active & intentional idiocy.

Oh, I wish Drew would return for a bit.

What a wonderful stroll down Memory Lane this has been!

I spent all my time on amf-m, & Marty used to wheedle me: "Please come & try out my new message board for Fleetwood Mac!" I'd usually say: "But, Marty!" You see, Web message boards were very uncool in those days, & Usenet had all the cool factor.

We have witnessed, in our lifetimes, the death of Usenet! Web scripting & markup languages have conquered it & vanquished it!

oh how i miss those days.

if this was 1997 I would be on my Apple Macintosh 6500/250 praying for a solid 28K connection, LONG DISTANCE, just so I could spend 4 hours talking to Scott, Erica, Pearl and LauraTN about things like...

1. Stevies fake boobs she keeps in the freezer next to her peas and their many practical uses. OMG. When she bumps her head she grabs one of them and uses them as an ice pack. Uses them as a stress ball when Lindsey pissed her off on the Dance tour. etc.
2. HOw Stevie should get back together with Lindsey and that it was not too late biologically to have kids at 48, and take fertility drugs or invetro so she can have children.
3. Talk about Christine had a secret love child with Dennis Wilson and hid the pregnacy under her clothes during the Tusk tour and how one of us might be the baby, given up for adoption and we have untapped musical talent being the offspring and heir to the Beachboy and fleetwood mac empire.
4. Discuss how lindsey sounds better when he is not mumbling lyrics
5. Beeotch bout how Stevie can sing the high parts but wimps out!
6. Discuss how stevie should TOTALLY wear Red, Pink, and white more often and ditch the black all the time.
7. SHoulder pads. DITCH THEM.
8. Wondering if the Dance was lip synced.
9. Talk about what version of Rhiannon or any other FM song is the "definitive" version.


Wow. I am SO glad I got a life! hahahahahaha

Usenet was SO spammy though. Even by 1997 it was loaded with way too much crap to be any use. Plus at that time, before hotmail, gmail and other web based email programs, you had to share ONE POP email address with everyone in your household. So that kept me from having and sharing the family email address and posting on USenet. My mom would have KILLED me for discussing and receiving the volume of Fleetwood mac stuff I tended to discuss.

Hahaha, I have absolutely no idea what anyone is talking about~ but I'm enjoying reading all the adventures on the old Ledge. I would have been like 3-4 years old while all this was going on. Ugh.

Wow, that really is interesting with the Black Ledge though. To think that things would get that bad over the internet. Sheesh! Okay... so I'm kind of glad I wasn't around for that, but still. LOLz.

And welcome back to all those who are here now! I'm Rhiya by the way. :wavey:

That's probably the best conspiracy theory I've ever read.

Yes...good remembering... :)

I like the one about Kristen (sp?) being an actress and Stevie being Lindsey's real wife and the mother of his children. But... ya never know.

I started that all. It wasn't that big of a deal. There've been 10,000 big fights here since the beginning up to just a few months ago, & the other fan gathering holes have thousands of fights, too.

Hi, Rhiya! :wavey:

Tsk, tsk now. LOL, take no offense to that. :) I'm really just pretending I know what I'm talking about.

:P I don't think 10,000+ posts is new. I've talked to you before, silly! But... Hi David!!!:laugh:

this is on a side note....from things way back in the day
I also remember Maureen Loftus(sp?) and James from Yonkers NY (can't remember the last name) who I believe had the master tapes for the nashville 77 and "day on the green '77" (actually kansas city right?) soundboard tapes and released them on CD (25.00 or 35.00 for their CDR with artwork at the time)

I just remember maureen had this huge as list and charged like 15.00, if not more for a 2 CASSETTE recording!!! lol. She would post these huge press release type posts on usernet advertising the upcoming release of Nashville 77, Baton Rouge 78, and the Mirage outtakes. All of which always had pristine crystal clear sound...Ha Ha HA.

Maureen and James always seemed to work together but I don't remember if they were related. I would imagine they made a good chunk of change off of that circle of fans for a few years. They were a little shady.

Plus to add to the "mystique" of bootleg fandom...there were rumours that complete unheard soundboard tapes for more tusk and rumours shows existed in their hands, including those that were hauled off to australia by some guy who refused to share them (dave you would know his name)...
I suppose we will never know exactly what they actually had but never shared. I think a lot of it was BS...but I think the australia source was legit. David would know the full scoop and its probably already been hashed over a million times by now.

I still wonder what in the heck happened to them...they both vanished sometime around 2001 or after.

I think the last time I ever saw any evidence of them dates back to early 2001 before TISL was finished or released, around the time of the dallas austin sessions. One of them bragged to me about having the complete album in their hands as an early release and hinted to all these BS track titles.

Rhiya, you know what they say ... What's the most fun you can have with your boots on?


THE LEDGE!! :lol::lol:

That's so very true! How did I never think of that!? :confused:

David: 1
Rhiya: 0

I'll catch you yet...:laugh:

You want to hear a story about Nashville, and those other soundboards? I know alot of you know who Frank Harding is. He's the Australia guy youre talking about. Well, in the late 90's he lived here in the Minneapolis area for about 4 years. My friend and I got to know him through an an in goldmine and we became fairly good friends. One day when I went over Frank's and he gave my 2 big boxes of tapes. THey were a mix of a bunch of stuff, but what he told me was that there were a bunch of Fleetwood Mac soundboards that Mick had given him from his personal collection. Frank asked if I would mind organizing the tapes. I said sure. He told me I was welcome to make copies of anything I wanted as long as Promised not to sell them for at least 2 years, which I kept. So I made my copies, gave the organized boxes back to Frank, who then eventually provided them to Maureen. But I was the first to have them before enyone else.

Not true at all. Some newsgroups have died, but many have not. Many text and binary newsgroups still flourish. And I think the coolness factor with Usenet is stronger than it has ever been, because access is a little more complex than it used to be when AOL actually had a newsgroups portal.

laurarox
 

I still have to come on at least once a week! But I'm married and have two little bozys so I can no longer travel the country following the greatest band ever. But, I'm so glad I had the opportunity to see them and my beloved Stevie a dozen or so times. It was the best!
Oh and of course I will be in Cleveland on 4-17. See you guys there!

Janine, Eva, Josh? Out there anywhere?

~Laurastillrox

Hey, Laura.
If not for a few of you very nice folks (you, Josh, Lori, hubby and ... ack! I'm blanking on the other's names), I'd still be wandering around the parking lots of Pittsburgh.

Who knew you lurked? Nice to hear about your family. Have you heard from Lori recently?

(This IS old home week)

Hey Regina!
I remember Lori- from PGH too right? BTW, I am from Pgh originally - you live there?

Yes, Lori is from Pittsburgh. I'm from NY (loved the less than 24 hours I stayed in Pittsburgh, though. I thought it was a really nice city).

I had never seen a full Stevie concert and swore to myself that when the TISL tour started, if it was anywhere on the East Coast, I was going.
And 11 hours on a train...and poof! I was there! (And my backside still remembers how painful that was).

Lori and her husband volunteered to drive me from my hotel to the venue after I told them I was taking a cab. Since it was 45 minutes, I think, to the venue (I assume everything is about five minutes away since I don't drive), I was very grateful, to say the least. And she was a lovely, lovely lady. VERY sweet, down to earth and funny. She and her husband threw a tailgating party and opened it up to all Ledgies in the area. Josh was 16, at the time, I believe and his whole family came. Laurarox, Tori, Keith and a couple of other people I'm blanking on at the moment. And we were all in the parking lot when Stevie started her rehearsal and heard the strains of Planets of the Universe before anyone else. We screamed. Not very restrained of us, but...normal, under the circumstances (and, hey, NEW material!)

It was great, but on the way back, when I was supposed to meet them by the concession stand, I realized there were about 6 of them, so I headed toward the parking lot to find them and promptly got lost--for probably close to an hour. I was convinced they would have left without me, but they found me, eventually. The big, bad NYer was scared to death, though! I'm navigationally challenged. Right now, I'd buy a GPS for myself and strap it to some extremity;-)

I didn't really frequent here until late 2001, but there used to be a small group of us who would be in the chat room that was on here back then and chat every day pretty much. Those were good times...

Matt

To be technical, James P. Nalbandian, aka JPN. That was freaky stuff.

Lori! I completely concur... what an incredibly sweet, kindhearted woman. Her daughter Aislinn (who loved Fleetwood Mac as a toddler) must be a teenager by now. Wow, time has sure gone by.

Torri! (who I mentioned earlier in this thread) and Keith! I know both still do lurk.

Hey, here's another name for everyone... remember Adrienne?

If I remember rightly there was a woman too who was a bit weird on the newsgroup. Used to post ramblings. Can't remember her name. So long ago...

There were lots of women who were a bit weird. More than a bit weird, actually.

Remember Esther & Moosh/Marsha & Rox (who formed the MP3 list) & Mo (who fell in love with Erick) & Nia & Sara M. (of course) & Tammy & Joanne & Chris Small & that annoying twerp Kyle & the great Brian P.?

haha wow David....yeh I remember ALL of those names?

Whatever happened to rox?

Rox just disappeared ... I hope it wasn't those horrific kidnappers in Mexico.

May I just say, Al, how great it is to have you around again? Remember those wonderful, amusing photos you took of all the elephants when your family took you to the circus? I'll always remember those elephants.

LOL that is the second time you have mentioned those crazy elephants!!! This girl from high school and and I went. It was january or february and darn cold out. It wasn't really a "date" but kind of was hahaha. We had fun.

heres a reference from the past

The Stevie Nicks Live Tapes Homepage


I got so many enchanted tour tapes from them because they were some of the first to have almost all of them on tape. Plus you could just send them cassettes and dub them for you....they were kind of like a factory!

Ha! Things almost always get that bad over the internet!

Hi Luke and everyone,

I'm the barbara from Boston you're thinking of and, happy to say, I'm very much alive. Barbara H, I think, was from Texas. So sad to hear about her...Vianna, too.

I still lurk a bit, but posting has dwindled to almost never. It's been loads of fun reading about all the old Ledgies!

:sorry: :sorry:

I'm glad you're here and still lurk! it seems most of us that were around back then never really completely went away

ugh.

really wish she hadn't completely fallen off the map as she's seemed to

http://www.myspace.com/kylemcmahon A True Inspiration To Annoying Fleetwood Mac Fans Who Troll Message Boards With Their Musical Ambitions *sniff*

Hey David
I was thinking....I remembered his name last night but now I cannot remember but what happened to the longtime fan who posted on the usernet newsgroups who collected opera gloves? Remember him? I know he was around for a very very long time, even before my heyday on the newsgroups which really wasn't all that long. I know you knew him pretty well too!

That was Joe Admire. He formed the a.m.f-m newsgroup in 1994. He lived at the time in Manassas VA.

He met Marty & Lisa A. in 1996 or so at Mick Fleetwood's blues bar in Virginia.

I think she became a mom. We e-mail her all the time. She never answers, but at least the e-mail doesn't bounce back!

Oh, good Lord.

I've only been here since 2003 (god, I wasn't even online until 2000), but I remember Vianna and was sad to hear she passed - she was a mod here until 2004-ish, I think - she had a stroke around that time, iirc - I never heard anymore about her after that. :sorry:

In Summer '05...

http://www.ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/sh...ad.php?t=21970

She died June 19, 2008 :(