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TheWILDheart 06-22-2006 12:18 PM

Shakin the Cage? is that some sort of pre-Buckingham Nicks tour? I dnt show any interest in the mac until 1975.

chiliD 06-22-2006 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWILDheart
Shakin the Cage? is that some sort of pre-Buckingham Nicks tour? I dnt show any interest in the mac until 1975.

"Shakin' The Cage" was the official title of the 1987/88 tour in support of the Tango In The Night album. It just is kind of suspicious that Mick used that same title for a subsequent Zoo album, too.

TheWILDheart 06-22-2006 12:26 PM

really? that was the official title? oh...didn't know that. Oh well...ya learn something new everyday.

justcrazylove 06-23-2006 02:09 AM

it looks like your learning alot:laugh:

TheWILDheart 06-23-2006 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie
Exactly. I want to know WHO decided that they could no longer be a five piece band, that a freakin' orchestra was required. And that's what they are now, a Vegas act.:distress:
Mirage is the BEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I don't know what the freakin hell you are on about. Watch the Mirage video again and look to the right of the stage - sort of at an angel right of Mick. There are 2 extra guitar players, 4 backup singers and the guy who does backup drums.

trackaghost 06-23-2006 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TheWILDheart
I don't know what the freakin hell you are on about. Watch the Mirage video again and look to the right of the stage - sort of at an angel right of Mick. There are 2 extra guitar players, 4 backup singers and the guy who does backup drums.

Are you sure you watched the Mirage video? There are no extra players, besides Ray Lindsey who you see playing acoustic guitar on Go Your Own Way. There certainly isn't another drummer let alone four back-up singers?! Where would they hide them on that stage? Bizarre.

SortaSavageLike 06-23-2006 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by trackaghost
Are you sure you watched the Mirage video? There are no extra players, besides Ray Lindsey who you see playing acoustic guitar on Go Your Own Way. There certainly isn't another drummer let alone four back-up singers?! Where would they hide them on that stage? Bizarre.

TheWILDheart has the Sixth Sense! :eek:

jbrownsjr 06-23-2006 09:49 AM

i liked the basic lighting system they used on Mirage... lots of blue... and those big flashing lights on the side.... not to mention the air blowing christine's hair while she sang :laugh:

cliffdweller 06-23-2006 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr
not to mention the air blowing christine's hair while she sang :laugh:

I have to admit, I really like this too for some odd reason. However, I think Chris's wardrobe (not to mention that garish make-up) needed A LOT of help. Chris is an attractive lady, why did she opt for such a frumpy look?

Stevie has clown make-up on too, I guess it's "performance" make-up but it looks ghastly to me. Lindsey's make-up isn't that great either :laugh: I think Mick was even wearing some eye-liner. What was WITH the make-up on this tour? :laugh:

TheWILDheart 06-23-2006 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by SortaSavageLike
TheWILDheart has the Sixth Sense! :eek:


LMAO - I wish. I am almost certain it was Mirage. I watched them all recently and there were backup singers and 2 guitarists...oh well...:shrug:

chiliD 06-23-2006 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TheWILDheart
LMAO - I wish. I am almost certain it was Mirage. I watched them all recently and there were backup singers and 2 guitarists...oh well...:shrug:


Nope, couldn't have been. They didn't have any "hangers on" on that tour. Lindsey's guitar tech, Ray, played acoustic on two or three numbers (GYOW, Second Hand News, Hold Me...maybe Gypsy, too), but that was it.

TheWILDheart 06-23-2006 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by chiliD
Nope, couldn't have been. They didn't have any "hangers on" on that tour. Lindsey's guitar tech, Ray, played acoustic on two or three numbers (GYOW, Second Hand News, Hold Me...maybe Gypsy, too), but that was it.


OK I've confused myself now. Right...i am going to go and watch TITN, Mirage, The Dance and WWD now..

HomerMcvie 06-23-2006 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TheWILDheart
I don't know what the freakin hell you are on about. Watch the Mirage video again and look to the right of the stage - sort of at an angel right of Mick. There are 2 extra guitar players, 4 backup singers and the guy who does backup drums.

Firstly, what in the hell are you smoking?
Secondly, did you bring enough to share with the class?

You have NO idea what concert video you're talking about.
Ray plays acoustic on Gypsy and GYOW. I've heard that the keyboard tech plays on Tusk. That's it, afaik.

macfan 57 06-23-2006 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by TheWILDheart
LMAO - I wish. I am almost certain it was Mirage. I watched them all recently and there were backup singers and 2 guitarists...oh well...:shrug:

There are NO backup singers on the Mirage video. As Sharon said, Ray Lindsey plays guitar on Go Your Own Way & Gypsy. He also played on Second Hand News, but that song isn't on the video. That's it. You're probably mixing it up with the Tango or Dance DVD. Anybody & everybody are on those DVDs.

macfan 57 06-23-2006 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr
i liked the basic lighting system they used on Mirage... lots of blue... and those big flashing lights on the side.... not to mention the air blowing christine's hair while she sang :laugh:

I've always loved that too. I didn't like her make-up though, either on the Mirage tour or her solo tour 2 years later. She looked fantastic again on the Tango tour.

David 06-23-2006 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by macfan 57
I've always loved that too.

That's one of the perks of being the keyboardist: You can easily hook an electric fan to your stand or your rig. The drummer can do that, too (but for some weird reason, usually doesn't).
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I didn't like her make-up though, either on the Mirage tour or her solo tour 2 years later.
Yeah, that Nefertiti look was sort of retro '60s (think early Streisand) & just didn't quite capture the Chris I know & love.
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She looked fantastic again on the Tango tour.
She was the dope on the Tango tour! (& the tour after that)

priestofnothing 06-23-2006 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by David
Stvie had walking pneumonia during this tour, & many dates were postponed, including the nights filmed for the video.

Also, I'm not certain of the exact dates of either event, but I seem to recall that the Mirage concert was filmed just a couple of weeks before Robin died. So, in addition to be sick and all coked-up, I'm sure Stevie had a lot of heavy distracting stuff on her mind when this show was filmed. The combination of all of the above surely would have affected her performance.

David 06-23-2006 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by priestofnothing
Also, I'm not certain of the exact dates of either event, but I seem to recall that the Mirage concert was filmed just a couple of weeks before Robin died. So, in addition to be sick and all coked-up, I'm sure Stevie had a lot of heavy distracting stuff on her mind when this show was filmed. The combination of all of the above surely would have affected her performance.

Yes, indeed, priestofnothing. Anderson died just two to three weeks before these shows (as well as Irvine Meadows, Oakland, Denver, Baton Rouge, Cedar Falls & Austin). In fact, my theory is that the terrifying stress & the grief brought on the pneumonia (as grief is commonly known to do).

Lots of things to think about when one thinks about those extraordinary, whiskey-soaked vocals of Stevie's on the Mirage Tour, as well as her absolutely extraordinary way (completely new that year) of bridging a word or syllable in a descending motive across an interval structure that went from the 3rd tone of the Dorian mode to the 1st, & then from the 2nd to the 7th below the 1st. That motif in Stevie's singing actually began in 1982, & continued through the 1986 tour. It was at its height during the 1983 tour.

carrie721 06-23-2006 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by David
Lots of things to think about when one thinks about those extraordinary, whiskey-soaked vocals of Stevie's on the Mirage Tour, as well as her absolutely extraordinary way (completely new that year) of bridging a word or syllable in a descending motive across an interval structure that went from the 3rd tone of the Dorian mode to the 1st, & then from the 2nd to the 7th below the 1st. That motif in Stevie's singing actually began in 1982, & continued through the 1986 tour. It was at its height during the 1983 tour.

Example, please? :D

Mad4stevie 06-24-2006 09:57 PM

I totally agree that this video kicks major ass! The bad editing is annoying but somewhat forgiveable because the performances are so excellent, IMO.

Speaking of the video, I have wanted video files of The Chain, GYOW and SOTM for so long ( I have them on video and dvd, but not on the computer), can any kind soul out there upload them to yousendit ? Pretty please? :wavey:

Nicks Fan 06-25-2006 09:25 AM

I enjoy the Mirage Video because it has some songs never performed since then or rarely perfomed since that video. It also has no back up orchestra to distract the band.

Matt

ClintonScott 06-26-2006 06:04 PM

no back up singers on Mirage Video that i can remember...

and i love the Mirage video, Stevie was in her best voice on that tour and album. i wish they would have released the Mirage concert instead of or with titn...

titn = cheesy 80's hair, a bloated Stevie and overproduction.

mylittledemon 05-08-2007 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TheWILDheart (Post 543320)
Did anyone else think that the Mirage live video was AWFUL!? Stevie really strains her voice and for some reason Lindsey is snogging the microphone during 'Not that Funny'. Certain songs remain a mystery to me - why are Not that Funny and Sisters of the Moon even on there? As far as I know, they were not singles. I much prefer the Tango in the Night video except for Stevie's close-up's that were clearly done seperatly (what was with that!?) however White Wing Dove live Kicks ALL the FM live video's.

Actually I thought Stevie was bad. "The Chain" was cool..."Not That Funny" and "So Afraid" were awesome..."Sisters of the Moon" was definitive.

JazmenFlowers 05-08-2007 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BTFLCHLD (Post 685906)

gawd. I love this in all it's off-key, warble finery...hey hey.

the look...the STEVIE look...jaw.dropping.perfection. and those boobs? sheesh. loves it.

The Tower 05-08-2007 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers (Post 686128)
gawd. I love this in all it's off-key, warble finery...hey hey.

the look...the STEVIE look...jaw.dropping.perfection. and those boobs? sheesh. loves it.

Oh, hell yes!!

1) Ragged, passionate vocals

2) Swirling- entering and exiting the stage during interludes for more effect.

3) Beautiful dark intensity during the verses

4) Quiet darkness during the beginning of the vamp

5) "Dreams unwind- still it's a state of minnndd- yea-ah!!" howl

6) "Take me the like the wind, child- with the sky...." deep and dark

leads into-

7) The pull-back-mic screaming

8) "I don't change and YOU don't change and it's ALLLL the same
Rhiaaaaaannnonnnnnn.......
"

9) Ending with the Stevie ballerina kick swirling down into an devasted pile


On top of all that- she looks incredible. The hair, the choker, the dress, the chiffon wings, the legwarmers- the FREEEKING boots.

It's great stuff!!

JazmenFlowers 05-08-2007 03:48 PM

^^^

I think I just [insert dirrty word here] at your description. :shocked:

The Tower 05-08-2007 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers (Post 686162)
^^^

I think I just [insert dirrty word here] at your description. :shocked:

I'm guessing that the "dirty word" is orgasmed?

:lol: :thumbsup: :]

strandinthewind 05-08-2007 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower (Post 686164)
I'm guessing that the "dirty word" is orgasmed?

:lol: :thumbsup: :]

I came - so there!

Also, that live version of Gypsy is so mother fukcing gut wrenching for me to hear. My throat hurts at the pain in her voice - my hreat at the expressiveness in the delivery. That last "bight eyes - briiiiight eyes" when she holds herself makes me cry.

What a fukcing woman indeed!

and then, of course, the panty revealing, drunken listing spin seen here



I am thinking coked up acid trip at about 2:10 - well, that or LB touched her in her bikini area a few seconds earlier~

Also - how HOT is she is in that top hat during GYOW!

Richard B 05-08-2007 04:32 PM

^^^^^^^^^^^

So agree with you. Mirage is outstanding. I got many a friend hooked on FM after seeing this video.

And I will add that I recently purchased that Brazilian Import of the Mirage Concert on DVD. The video quality is superb, audio, not so good, but decent. I heard so many different takes on this release, but it is pro quality (except for the incorrect cover art/photo).

mylittledemon 05-08-2007 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers (Post 686128)
gawd. I love this in all it's off-key, warble finery...hey hey.

the look...the STEVIE look...jaw.dropping.perfection. and those boobs? sheesh. loves it.

And who could forget Stevie's "no panties" flash!

jmn3 05-08-2007 09:46 PM

Oh yes, the Mirage Tour Video is just excellence! It's not perfect and that's what makes it awesome.

The Chain - probably the best live version of this song EVER
Go Your Own Way - see note about The Chain
Sisters of the Moon - amazing...rock on Stevie!

So Gypsy is a little strained on the vocals and Lindsey gets a bit too friendly with the microphone during Not That Funny...this all adds up to this being one hell of a video. I can certainly see how someone could get turned onto the Mac just by seeing it.

GypsySorcerer 05-09-2007 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 686170)

Also - how HOT is she is in that top hat during GYOW!

I know! I gaze in amazement during those close-ups. She has never been hotter.

danax6 05-09-2007 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mylittledemon (Post 686211)
And who could forget Stevie's "no panties" flash!

Let's not forget Lindsey's lack of 'panties' either. :]

Gah, how I love this show. My favourite ever.

The Tower 05-09-2007 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by danax6 (Post 686376)
Let's not forget Lindsey's lack of 'panties' either. :]

His ass is perfection in this video. {drool}

GypsySorcerer 05-09-2007 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower (Post 686378)
His ass is perfection in this video. {drool}

I never got around to looking at his ass. :lol: :woohoo:

chiliD 05-09-2007 04:15 PM

Actually, I can't really enjoy the video because I spend the whole time figuring out which of the two shows the scenes are from. (since I was at both shows that they filmed)

The easiest way to tell is that when they glare at each other, it's one night; when they smile it's the other. After 25 years, I can't remember which show was the "happy" show and which one was the "I'm going to kill you as soon as the show's over" show (the first night or second night). But, each show had a diametrically opposite vibe from beginning to end. At least they were consistent throughout each show.

madformac 05-09-2007 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 686410)
Actually, I can't really enjoy the video because I spend the whole time figuring out which of the two shows the scenes are from. (since I was at both shows that they filmed)

The easiest way to tell is that when they glare at each other, it's one night; when they smile it's the other. After 25 years, I can't remember which show was the "happy" show and which one was the "I'm going to kill you as soon as the show's over" show (the first night or second night). But, each show had a diametrically opposite vibe from beginning to end. At least they were consistent throughout each show.

The filmed night was 21st October (I remember this cos its my birthday). I have both shows on mp3 somewhere and there are some slight differences although the two gigs are very similar in sound and style. But the Mirage Live gig was the 21st.

madformac 05-09-2007 07:38 PM

OK, here's "The Chain" from the gig the first night (the 20th October). Note the differences.

http://download.yousendit.com/6AAEB5804EAF67C3

:wavey:

jmn3 05-10-2007 10:33 PM

Hey madformac,

That one you posted is indeed from 10/20/82, but it was not one of the LA shows. That one is from Oakland. I believe the two LA shows at the Forum were on 10/21 and 10/22, which are the two concerts that were spliced together to come up with the Mirage Video.

To the best of my knowledge, I don't think either of those shows have been leaked yet. Not saying they don't exist, but I haven't seen them anywhere or heard of anyone finding them recently.

strandinthewind 05-15-2007 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Tower (Post 686160)
Oh, hell yes!!

1) Ragged, passionate vocals

2) Swirling- entering and exiting the stage during interludes for more effect.

3) Beautiful dark intensity during the verses

4) Quiet darkness during the beginning of the vamp

5) "Dreams unwind- still it's a state of minnndd- yea-ah!!" howl

6) "Take me the like the wind, child- with the sky...." deep and dark

leads into-

7) The pull-back-mic screaming

8) "I don't change and YOU don't change and it's ALLLL the same
Rhiaaaaaannnonnnnnn.......
"

9) Ending with the Stevie ballerina kick swirling down into an devasted pile


On top of all that- she looks incredible. The hair, the choker, the dress, the chiffon wings, the legwarmers- the FREEEKING boots.

It's great stuff!!

For you!


Online Videos by Veoh.com

In many way and to me, this live performance of this song was the last of a great era. Check La Nicks signing to John M. and then that wild dance at the end :eek: Also, she is so fukcing HOT it burns my eyes to see it!

I mean they are way off key and her voice sounds way rough - but give me that performance over a slick one any day!


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