The Ledge

The Ledge (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/index.php)
-   Chit Chat (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/forumdisplay.php?f=9)
-   -   For those tired with Tom Cruise.. (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=20144)

strandinthewind 06-21-2005 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
No, but they certainly give you an idea of what people think about the whole thing. They had no right whatsoever to spray his face, so what gave Toothy the right to physically put his hands on one of them?

They assaulted and battered him :shrug:

cliffdweller 06-21-2005 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
They assaulted and battered him :shrug:

:laugh: :rolleyes: ~sigh~

dissention 06-21-2005 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
So, the same applies to nicole Kidmann and her little outburst :shrug: :wavey:

I cut her slack considering she just found out that one of her friends died when she got to the premiere. And all she did was call the guy "rude" and walk into the theater.

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
and - throwing a pale of water at the guy would be better than telling him off :rolleyes:

No, it would be funnier to watch. :woohoo:

strandinthewind 06-21-2005 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cliffdweller
I guess it would depend on what kind of "actor" I was...ba-dump, *cymbal crash*.

:laugh: :laugh: - but I suggest they protect their faces as much as they can :cool: He clearly must depend on his.

dissention 06-21-2005 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
They assaulted and battered him :shrug:

So that gave him the right to physically put his hands upon one of them? I think not, my dear.

strandinthewind 06-21-2005 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
So that gave him the right to physically put his hands upon one of them? I think not, my dear.

Well, yes it does. You can detain a person who has committed a crime.

dissention 06-21-2005 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Well, yes it does. You can detain a person who has committed a crime.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

dissention 06-21-2005 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
He clearly must depend on his.

Because he clearly can't depend on his acting.

strandinthewind 06-21-2005 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Well, they arrested then didn't they? Interestingly, they arrested them on "suspicion of assault" which is interesting if you think about it.

cliffdweller 06-21-2005 02:12 PM

Would you two just admit....that you're in love with each other? :laugh::laugh:

Sorry, couldn't resist.

strandinthewind 06-21-2005 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
Because he clearly can't depend on his acting.

Well, acting is a visual thing :shrug: Part of his charm to millions is his face - you make that sound like a bad thing. I suggest that is no different that any other actor, even the ones who dress down in parts a la Kidmann's nose. Even then, it is all about appearance.

strandinthewind 06-21-2005 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cliffdweller
Would you two just admit....that you're in love with each other? :laugh::laugh:

Sorry, couldn't resist.

NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

KATIE BAR THE DOOR

DAMN THE TORPEDOS

FULL SPEED AHEAD

:laugh: :laugh:

dissention 06-21-2005 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Well, acting is a visual thing :shrug: Part of his charm to millions is his face - you make that sound like a bad thing. I suggest that is no different that any other actor, even the ones who dress down in parts a la Kidmann's nose. Even then, it is all about appearance.

Boy, you sure could make actual **** seem lovely if you tried hard enough.

The fact that you can't simply call him out for being a mediocre actor at best is shocking to me. Instead, you have to pussyfoot around it. If he didn't have that face that so many women find appealing, he'd have nothing of a career to speak of. All 5'7" of him would be as obscure as Anna Nicole's intelligence.

amber 06-21-2005 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
Boy, you sure could make actual **** seem lovely if you tried hard enough.

The fact that you can't simply call him out for being a mediocre actor at best is shocking to me. Instead, you have to pussyfoot around it. If he didn't have that face that so many women find appealing, he'd have nothing of a career to speak of. All 5'7" of him would be as obscure as Anna Nicole's intelligence.

He's not that bad. He's pretty good most of the time. He picks good roles for his range, and he does a good job on them, sometimes less than others, sometimes more than others.

So Shut up! Just shut up! Jeezus!!! Lay off Tom! You're making me sick with your hateful Bile!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

cliffdweller 06-21-2005 02:22 PM

How do you really feel about it Amber? :laugh:

dissention 06-21-2005 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amber
He's not that bad. He's pretty good most of the time. He picks good roles for his range, and he does a good job on them, sometimes less than others, sometimes more than others.

So Shut up! Just shut up! Jeezus!!! Lay off Tom! You're making me sick with your hateful Bile!!!!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

:laugh: :sorry:

He's the kind of actor tailor-made for roles like Janitor #3 in Die Hard 2. :lol:

strandinthewind 06-21-2005 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
Boy, you sure could make actual **** seem lovely if you tried hard enough.

The fact that you can't simply call him out for being a mediocre actor at best is shocking to me. Instead, you have to pussyfoot around it. If he didn't have that face that so many women find appealing, he'd have nothing of a career to speak of. All 5'7" of him would be as obscure as Anna Nicole's intelligence.


I think I said earlier in this thread or maybe it was the other that he is not that great of an actor who has relied mostly on his looks and charm to get where he is. But, I nonetheless reiterate it here :wavey:

dissention 06-21-2005 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
he is not that great of an actor who has relied mostly on his looks and charm to get where he is.

I'll toast to that. :woohoo:

strandinthewind 06-21-2005 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
I'll toast to that. :woohoo:


I'll toast to you for admitting he has them - looks and charm that is :] :] :]

amber 06-21-2005 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cliffdweller
How do you really feel about it Amber? :laugh:

YAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! :mad: :mad:


:lol: :lol: :lol: Whew, I feel better.

dissention 06-21-2005 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
I'll toast to you for admitting he has them - looks and charm that is :] :] :]

Not to me he doesn't, but I can't deny that he does to millions of people out there for some strange, strange reason. :laugh:

amber 06-21-2005 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
:laugh: :sorry:

He's the kind of actor tailor-made for roles like Janitor #3 in Die Hard 2. :lol:

You're just lying. You're forgetting good performances. Your obvious bias in the face of evidence to the contrary (ie, roles where he did a good job) is sickening. *Pbbbbbbbblllttttttttttttt!*

Miss Vicky 06-21-2005 02:30 PM

I've avoided this thread 'til now because, well, I really don't like Tom Cruise and any discussion of him, good or bad, isn't really very appealing for me.

He's a mediocre actor and not particularly attractive, if you ask me. And his smile? Bugs the sh*t out of me. He's like a damned car salesman or something.

The only movies I've liked that he starred in?

Rainman
Risky Business
Far and Away (which is quite surprising, considering the fact that I don't like Nicole Kidman either)
The Last Samarai (he's almost likeable when he doesn't flash that f*cking smile)

cliffdweller 06-21-2005 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
Not to me he doesn't, but I can't deny that he does to millions of people out there for some strange, strange reason. :laugh:

Millions? I think you're being a bit generous here :laugh:.

strandinthewind 06-21-2005 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cliffdweller
Millions? I think you're being a bit generous here :laugh:.


Well, if box office receipts are any indication :shrug:

dissention 06-21-2005 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amber
You're just lying. You're forgetting good performances. Your obvious bias in the face of evidence to the contrary (ie, roles where he did a good job) is sickening.

I can honestly say I've never seen a performance from him that I liked. Movies, yes. Performances, no. He's always the weak link, especially in Magnolia where it was really evident that he couldn't act for beans. Though I will admit that he didn't bother me in Risky Business one bit.

Quote:

Originally Posted by amber
*Pbbbbbbbblllttttttttttttt!*

I actually tried to vocalize that sound.

dissention 06-21-2005 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cliffdweller
Millions? I think you're being a bit generous here :laugh:.

I'm a generous person, that's why. :laugh:

I long for the day when good actors are the ones who are cherished by the moviegoing public...

amber 06-21-2005 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
I can honestly say I've never seen a performance from him that I liked. Movies, yes. Performances, no. He's always the weak link, especially in Magnolia where it was really evident that he couldn't act for beans. Though I will admit that he didn't bother me in Risky Business one bit.



I actually tried to vocalize that sound.

What about A Few Good Men? What about Interview W/A Vampire? Cocktail? :lol: (I actually do like him in Cocktail, but it's the bar tricks and cocky attitude that gets me.)
Whatever, you're obviously impervious to his charms, and any good performance he might lay down. I hate you.
:lol:

amber 06-21-2005 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cliffdweller
Millions? I think you're being a bit generous here :laugh:.

No, he's not. Why don't you hush? Hmm? :lol: :wavey:

strandinthewind 06-21-2005 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dissention
I'm a generous person, that's why. :laugh:

I long for the day when good actors are the ones who are cherished by the moviegoing public...

Well they are. I mean Kiddmann is a good actress as far as you are concerned and she gets as much press as Tom Cruise?

dissention 06-21-2005 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strandinthewind
Well they are. I mean Kiddmann is a good actress as far as you are concerned and she gets as much press as Tom Cruise?

One out of a sea of hundreds. Wow. It's depressing to look at the majority of movies and actors that make the big bucks these days, it really is.

madformac 06-21-2005 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amber
You're just lying. You're forgetting good performances. Your obvious bias in the face of evidence to the contrary (ie, roles where he did a good job) is sickening. *Pbbbbbbbblllttttttttttttt!*

I agree..


I think a lot of people are basing their hatred on Cruise because of his personal life but are attacking his work to back up their feelings.

I've not met him so far in life so I don't know what he's like although he seems fine to me from his interviews, but I do like a lot of his movies. Most are not exactly groundbreaking acting performances but he is king of his domain when it comes to popular culture movies.

I do think he deserved an Oscar for Rain Man however instead of "slow on the drive way" Hoffman.. Born On The 4th July was a great performance too...

sparky 06-21-2005 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chain of Chains
Forgive my ignorance, but why DO so many peoples claim TC is gay? Is there proof or something? Is this just a guess, or a hunch?

These things don't happen in a vacuum. LA is a very tiny place, gossip wise. I heard stories about him within weeks of moving here. On the other hand, I never heard them about other stars of his prominence and age.

Quote:

I am not a fan of his, but I just never understood how all these accusation got started in the first place. He does not seem gay at all to me. He does not seem the least bit effeminate to me either, does he to you? (I know that that is not a prerequisite
What do you expect ? A lisp ? Bleached hair ? A dress ?

People rarely guess I'M gay. Or any of the guys I date.

For the record, I think he comes across as girly and precious. Not masculine at all.

Quote:

Why would Nichole play along with this, what would be in it for her? She is gorgeous and could probably get any man she wanted, why would she want to be in that situation?
Money. Success. Power. Fame. What every actor/celebrity wanna be wants. People will stop at almost nothing to get these things.

Wake up and smell the desperation !

People eat handfuls of bugs on television for 40 grand. There is little shame or dignity remaining in our culture.

skcin 06-21-2005 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparky
People rarely guess I'M gay.


It may be the pickup truck. :shrug:

:D

sparky 06-21-2005 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skcin
It may be the pickup truck. :shrug:

:D

:lol:

That could be part of it. A bunch of girls I have worked with for six months were bummed when my assistant spilled the beans. This one lady came up to me and said, "Not you too ! My GOD. Not another one !" :thumbsup:

NaiveMelody23 06-21-2005 03:16 PM

Every celeb or person of fame goes through odd career stages. I mean come on look at David Bowie, he wasnt the most sane of people, and now everyone loves him.

Bill Tush, also, he is probaly at his house feeding his dog wondering what he could've done dumb and odd to make the public love him still.

All, I am saying is let Tom Cruise do his thing he will be back to normal in four years.

dissention 06-21-2005 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sparky
Money. Success. Power. Fame. What every actor/celebrity wanna be wants. People will stop at almost nothing to get these things.

Wake up and smell the desperation !

People eat handfuls of bugs on television for 40 grand. There is little shame or dignity remaining in our culture.

Precisely. Heck, put me in a dress and I'll beard for Tom for a few of those things mentioned above.

dissention 06-21-2005 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaiveMelody23
All, I am saying is let Tom Cruise do his thing he will be back to normal in four years.

Back under his rock within four years would be more conducive to keeping my food from coming up.

trackaghost 06-21-2005 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madformac
I agree..


I think a lot of people are basing their hatred on Cruise because of his personal life but are attacking his work to back up their feelings.

I've not met him so far in life so I don't know what he's like although he seems fine to me from his interviews, but I do like a lot of his movies. Most are not exactly groundbreaking acting performances but he is king of his domain when it comes to popular culture movies.

I do think he deserved an Oscar for Rain Man however instead of "slow on the drive way" Hoffman.. Born On The 4th July was a great performance too...

I think he's a good actor and he's great at choosing films too.
I agree that Rain Man is definitely up there as one of his best performances but Hoffman did deserve that Oscar IMO.

I don't know why people think War Of The Worlds will fail. I reckon it's gonna be huge. You can't compare it with Batman Begins really, because with all the comic book adaptations and superhero movies hitting cinemas in the last few years, it was inevitable that people were going to lose interest in them a little eventually.

trackaghost 06-21-2005 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaiveMelody23

All, I am saying is let Tom Cruise do his thing he will be back to normal in four years.

Hmmm, Tom Cruise normal. There's a novel thought :lol:


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:54 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© 1995-2003 Martin and Lisa Adelson, All Rights Reserved