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dissention 08-15-2004 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
Even though "Sara," "Storms" and "Beautiful Child" are all slow songs, at least they're paced well.

Sara is horribly paced. It sounds lush, but it just goes on and on and on and on and on without doing much of anything. Thank god that twenty minute version never surfaced, I'd be hanging from the rafters at this very moment.

dissention 08-15-2004 08:57 PM

Sara

See ya.

Johnny Stew 08-15-2004 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
Sara is horribly paced. It sounds lush, but it just goes on and on and on and on and on without doing much of anything. Thank god that twenty minute version never surfaced, I'd be hanging from the rafters at this very moment.

Give me a minute to figure out if that's a bad thing or a good thing.
Wait. I'll come to me.

:laugh: :laugh: ;) :xoxo:

As I've said in the past, "Sara" is beautifully languid... it's like a stream of crystal-clear water, cascading over the rocks in a river bed. Slowly revealing the secrets it holds.

Meanwhile, "Save Me A Place" is molasses rolling up a hill in June. :p It reminds me of those dreams where you're trying to walk fast or run, but your legs feel extremely heavy and you're not making any progress.

jwd 08-15-2004 09:03 PM

Once again...."Save Me A Place". It's crap! :laugh:

77Rumours77 08-15-2004 09:06 PM

Shit!
 
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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie
Error 404. File not found. :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

Sorry I havent Got it up yet, FU*KING server is acting up again! It should be up in 10 MIN!

sparky 08-15-2004 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
Stripped-down is fine, but pacing is everything. And the pacing of "Save Me A Place" is horrendous. I can't get through it. It makes me want to stick my head in an oven. Or slit my wrists. Or get a root-canal. Or watch paint dry.

Johnny, your vitriol is warming my heart. Have you been studying Dissention's posts ?

I vote for Not That Funny.

dissention 08-15-2004 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky
Johnny, your vitriol is warming my heart. Have you been studying Dissention's posts ?

:lol: C'mon, I'm not that bad!

sparky 08-15-2004 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
:lol: C'mon, I'm not that bad!

Au Contraire. Mon Frere. You're that good. :xoxo:

golden braid 08-15-2004 09:27 PM

Round 2
 
That's All For Everyone again

dissention 08-15-2004 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky
Au Contraire. Mon Frere. You're that good. :xoxo:

Stop stating the obvious. ;) :xoxo:

Lala 08-15-2004 09:29 PM

That's Enough For Me

Johnny Stew 08-15-2004 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky
Johnny, your vitriol is warming my heart. Have you been studying Dissention's posts ?

:laugh:
Crikey... when I start getting compared to dissention, I know I'm in trouble! :laugh: ;)

"Save Me A Place" sucks. I can't help it.
I'm not trying to be spiteful or purposefully bitchy... it just sucks. I even tried to say something nice about it, but the best I could come up with, is that I like the harmonies. :shrug:

dissention 08-15-2004 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
I even tried to say something nice about it, but the best I could come up with, is that I like the harmonies. :shrug:

That's better than me when it comes to WISYA. ;) Oh, wait. I do like something about it. The end. :lol:

GateandGarden 08-15-2004 09:38 PM

Okay, I want to vote for "Walk a Thin Line," but that seems to be futile, so I'm going to go with "That's Enough for Me," even though I like it more.

Hillary

77Rumours77 08-15-2004 09:43 PM

Immunity
 
OK, The Guest Book wont be up tonight! Sorry, Although it was answerd, I will let you all know tomorrow :o :o :thumbsup:

sparky 08-15-2004 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

I'm not trying to be spiteful or purposefully bitchy...

:lol:

Unlike some of us !

HomerMcvie 08-15-2004 09:43 PM

Wait a minute baby, stay with me awhile........
on second thought.....
get out Sara

dissention 08-15-2004 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky
:lol:

Unlike some of us !

I was just going to say that, too!!!! :lol: :wavey:

sparky 08-15-2004 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention
I was just going to say that, too!!!! :lol: :wavey:

Great minds, and all that :thumbsup:

Hawkeye 08-15-2004 09:53 PM

I think it would help if we knew which song had immunity before we started voting. If you're link isn't working, then maybe the first person to answer correctly in the thread could choose immuntiy.

Like I could say the answer is "Dreams" and I want Not That Funny to have immunity.

You can either count that or not, but I think in the future it would really help to find out immunity right away and just have us answer. So maybe you could use my thread here as the first example...

But if not my vote is again for Save Me a Place

Wild_Heart03 08-15-2004 09:55 PM

I vote for That's All For Everyone.

David 08-15-2004 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 77Rumours77
Ok heres the question......
What was Fleetwood Mac's only no. 1 hit? (Yea I know its easy, I promise they will get better)

They have to be accurate, at least, Jacob. Both Albatross & Dreams were No. 1 songs.

Were there others?

Johnny Stew 08-15-2004 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by David
They have to be accurate, at least, Jacob. Both Albatross & Dreams were No. 1 songs.

Were there others?

By his wording, I believe Jacob was asking which song was FM's only US #1. :)

Hawkeye 08-15-2004 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by David
They have to be accurate, at least, Jacob. Both Albatross & Dreams were No. 1 songs.

Were there others?

.

You Make Loving Fun and Dreams were #1 in Canada.

Oh Well and Go Your Own Way were #1 in Holland.

And add in the already mentioned albatross and that means worldwide Fleetwood Mac had 5 #1 hits.
.
Heh not only did I get the original question right, I added like 4 things. I should DEFINITELY get to choose who gets immunuty :laugh: And to remind you it's Not That Funny :laugh:

xdreamsunwindx 08-15-2004 10:26 PM

Sara. Sorry hun, you aren't the poet in my heart.

-Kate

GardenStateGirlie 08-15-2004 10:44 PM

Voting once again for That's All For Everyone

DeadliestPoison 08-15-2004 11:03 PM

Round 2
 
Yep, still hating Sara over here. Bye!

face of glass 08-16-2004 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
You forget that I love the esoteric stuff. But "Save Me A Place" isn't esoteric... it's just boring. :laugh: ;)

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Meanwhile, "Save Me A Place" is molasses rolling up a hill in June. :p It reminds me of those dreams where you're trying to walk fast or run, but your legs feel extremely heavy and you're not making any progress.
"Save Me A Place" is as esoteric as "When I See You Again", don't get me wrong. But it definitely isn't inaccessible. There may be a few people on this board rooting out for it (not me though) but when I read commentary from outside reviewers, stuff like "the most emotionally resonant piece on the album", it can be identified with by others, too.

"SMAP" is Lindsey's attempt to make music in the singer-songwriter formula, without the usual "excessive" arranging. It's a formula he rarely gets into. The song speaks of depression like "When I See You Again", but then again not the kind of depression that you seem to identify with. "Don't know why I have to work, don't know why I can't play". It's a very passive statement, it speaks of mornings when you just can't be bothered to get ouf of bed. And yet there's a glimmer of hope coming through it, like in "When I See You Again".

Of course, whatever you're stating in this thread isn't any less harsh than the "WISYA" 'critique' that you've seen yourself. So there goes your reputation as the UN of the board out of the window. Bring on the US. ;)

Not that I mind that much. "SMAP", "WISYA", in fact, everything this band and its solo artists have released, is just awfully boring.

face of glass 08-16-2004 12:49 AM

Round & Round #2.
 
Oh, and the one I want out of this stinkin' crappile? "Angel".

Hawkeye 08-16-2004 01:06 AM

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in fact, everything this band and its solo artists have released, is just awfully boring.
What? are you serious. Are was that a joke?

Johnny Stew 08-16-2004 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by face of glass
"Save Me A Place" is as esoteric as "When I See You Again", don't get me wrong. But it definitely isn't inaccessible. There may be a few people on this board rooting out for it (not me though) but when I read commentary from outside reviewers, stuff like "the most emotionally resonant piece on the album", it can be identified with by others, too.

"SMAP" is Lindsey's attempt to make music in the singer-songwriter formula, without the usual "excessive" arranging. It's a formula he rarely gets into. The song speaks of depression like "When I See You Again", but then again not the kind of depression that you seem to identify with. "Don't know why I have to work, don't know why I can't play". It's a very passive statement, it speaks of mornings when you just can't be bothered to get ouf of bed. And yet there's a glimmer of hope coming through it, like in "When I See You Again".

It's not that I can't identify with it, or anything like that. I think we can all identify with the desire to play instead of working, and I think we can all identify with the need to have our "place" in the world.
The song just doesn't do anything for me.

It's not even a case like "Say Goodbye," where I LOVE the lyrics, but I'm not crazy about the album arrangement (I am, however, completely in love with the 'Live In Boston' performance). I'm unable to find anything to like about "Save Me A Place," even though I want to, and even though I've tried.

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Originally Posted by face of glass
Of course, whatever you're stating in this thread isn't any less harsh than the "WISYA" 'critique' that you've seen yourself. So there goes your reputation as the UN of the board out of the window. Bring on the US. ;)

I think I can be allowed one song to have a deep dislike for. ;)
Even others that I've cited as "least favorites," are not songs I have a deep distaste for. They're just songs I like less than others.
But with "Save Me A Place".... well, let's just say I won't be joining its appreciation society any time soon. :)

What boggles my mind, is that "Save Me A Place" is so often put ahead of "That's All For Everyone"... which, in my opinion, is one of Lindsey's all-time best songs. Certainly one of his shining moments on 'Tusk.'
I listen to that song in total bliss. :)

face of glass 08-16-2004 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye
What? are you serious. Are was that a joke?

What? Are you serious in this post of yours? There's no emoticon anywhere. There must be an emoticon if you want your post to be humorous. It's the right thing to do. Otherwise someone will hit your fingers with a stick.

sodascouts 08-16-2004 02:06 AM

Round 2
 
I'm voting off more Chris schmaltz: Never Forget

shackin'up 08-16-2004 03:47 AM

round2
 
Okay, it's getting hard already:

Never Make Me Cry

Bryan 08-16-2004 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by sodascouts
I'm voting off more Chris schmaltz: Never Forget

:eek: Schmaltz?!! Nancy,I'm suspecting you might be a Chris hater..the BuckinghamNicks only site..repeatedly voting off Chris songs..referring to Chris songs as schmaltz :lol: hmm plenty of evidence lol:D

Meanwhile i'm voting off That's Enough For Me

Sugar 08-16-2004 08:09 AM

That's Enough for Me

Patti 08-16-2004 08:18 AM

Round 2
 
I gotta go with Johnny Stew on this one and vote for Save Me A Place. I love my Lindsey, but I have just never been able to like this song. The thing about it that bugs me the most is that drum drilling a hole in my head. It's so monotonous, I want to die.

face of glass 08-16-2004 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew
I think I can be allowed one song to have a deep dislike for.

That was never the issue here. Like what you like, dislike what you dislike, write the usual "that's cool, that's crap" posts and it doesn't bother me.
It's just that in this case your rhetorics are on the same level as Dissention's "WISYA" bashing. What raises tempers in you is bound to raise tempers in others as well. No matter how eloquently the Beaver County Librarian might type them down, they're still spurred by the emotional response to the piece, and quite possibly by the critique that has been thrown at one of the most esoteric moments of your preferred member in the band, a song that you have a deep emotional connection with. But whatever.
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What boggles my mind, is that "Save Me A Place" is so often put ahead of "That's All For Everyone"... which, in my opinion, is one of Lindsey's all-time best songs. Certainly one of his shining moments on 'Tusk.'
Earlier you stated that "there's absolutely nothing of any interest going on in the song". How come Bob Josef then states on this page http://starling.rinet.ru/music/fmacc.htm#Tusk that "he can suck you in anyway, with the title track, "Save Me A Place," "Walk a Thin Line," because the sound is so compelling."? Obviously the aural experiences of "Save Me A Place" from both of you differ like night and day.
In the Tango In The Night survivor thread you criticized "Ricky", even typed down it's lyrics to show how "anemic" it is and how there's not that much going on in that song either. Considering how you are a person who takes lyrical contributions to be very important to a song, it is not surprising to hear an opinion like this from you.
So, um, what makes "That's All For Everyone" so outstanding then? There's not much lyrical content there either, now is there? Of course, if you prefer to hear less than two minutes of a musical & lyrical loop than four minutes of one (="Ricky") then I do understand your statement.
"Save Me A Place", "That's All For Everyone" and "Ricky" are in essence relatively esoteric pieces with sparse lyrics. The message of these songs reaches beyond the superficial lyrical content. Whatever simplicity there seems to be, it is always shaded by something complex and carefully thought-out. The same I can say for the likes of "When I See You Again". The things the songs are trying to convey may be cryptic for some, but they can all be related to on a deep emotional level. Of course it might take a bulldozer, a battle-axe and the willpower of Mohammed to get to that point, but whatever.

face of glass 08-16-2004 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Patti
The thing about it that bugs me the most is that drum drilling a hole in my head. It's so monotonous, I want to die.

= Chinese Water Torture. :nod: ;)

Hippocampus 08-16-2004 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up
well......that's what it says....no?


Of course I was only stating the obvious, my dear.


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Originally Posted by shackin'up
I know this song will be butchered soon, but hey, it's nice to know that a real taste is not there for everyone.... :D :p ;)

Great idea. Let's carve Not That Funny to pieces. Yes that's my vote again :)


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