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jbrownsjr 10-20-2009 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 848734)
She didn't compose the "poppy crispness" on Angel (Christine is more responsible than anyone for the style & sound you love on that track.)

hahaha you know that I know that... :rolleyes: However, I will say, my point was more geared toward, "I really like listening to those 'Stevie' songs vs. the nasal reverbations and slow plodding tunes on SYW."

As an arranger, I know how the composer takes the bow, while the arranger sweats out stave after stave making sure the orchestrations line up... I will say that Stevie's vocals on Tusk and Bella Donna are extremely pleasing to my ears...

markolas 10-20-2009 03:10 PM

Stevie's SYW songs are mostly mediocre, both the compositions themselves, and her vocals; the production is way overdone on most of them. Thrown Down is probably the best thing on there. The song SYW is great, but needed a third verse. Illume is pretty good, but has that awful vocal distortion thing at the end. There's a great vocal on EFO, but it's so unlike anything else on the album that it seems like it just doesn't belong there. The other songs of hers on there are weak and overproduced. How anyone can prefer it over BD is beyond me, but there's no accounting for taste. :shrug:

David 10-20-2009 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by markolas (Post 848806)
Stevie's SYW songs are mostly mediocre, both the compositions themselves, and her vocals; the production is way overdone on most of them.

John Gielgud once said of his not-so-friendly friend Laurence Olivier: "I often found myself marveling at his execution even if I disagreed with his conception."

Well, with Say You Will, I found myself disagreeing with the producer's conceptions AND deploring his executions. I wish I had medical records at hand, because I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there has been hearing loss in the producer. The whole album has what I call an airplane-cabin mix: It probably sounds better the more plugged up you are.

jbrownsjr 10-20-2009 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 848864)
John Gielgud once said of his not-so-friendly friend Laurence Olivier: "I often found myself marveling at his execution even if I disagreed with his conception."

Well, with Say You Will, I found myself disagreeing with the producer's conceptions AND deploring his executions. I wish I had medical records at hand, because I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there has been hearing loss in the producer. The whole album has what I call an airplane-cabin mix: It probably sounds better the more plugged up you are.

Define "plugged up"...

chiliD 10-21-2009 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Glittermoondust (Post 848548)
Better than Gypsy??

No

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Originally Posted by Glittermoondust (Post 848548)
That's Alright?? Seven Wonders?? Juliet?? If You Ever Did Believe?? Fireflies?? Sorcerer???

MOST DEFINITELY!!!!

TrueFaith77 10-21-2009 11:51 AM

^^^:thumbsup:

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Now Lindsey:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=41944

You know, for science!

Rod 10-21-2009 01:27 PM

Say You Will Poll: Stevie's Best Work Since. . .?
 
I agree with the earlier comments about Stevie's contributions to Mirage being better than those on Say You Will. In fact apart from the wondrous 'Sara' I prefer her Mirage songs to those on Tusk too. Especially if you add in her amazing unreleased Mirage era songs - 'Smile At You' and 'If You Were My Love.'

TrueFaith77 10-21-2009 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rod (Post 849000)
I agree with the earlier comments about Stevie's contributions to Mirage being better than those on Say You Will. In fact apart from the wondrous 'Sara' I prefer her Mirage songs to those on Tusk too.

For me, the only real struggle was choosing between SYW and Mirage (GYPSY!!), so I'm surprised that on the other poll Mirage has gotten no votes. Interesting. Maybe it's cuz it's just three songs. But those three songs have John & Mick.

Rod 10-21-2009 02:34 PM

Say You Will Poll: Stevie's Best Work Since. . .?
 
Well I voted for Mirage on the other poll! I think it's a very underrated album. Gypsy is definitely the jewel in the crown but there are plenty of other treasures to be found - in Stevie's other songs and also some of Christine's finest (Love in Store & Hold Me).

BellaDonna 10-21-2009 05:42 PM

I really love her songs on Mirage rather than thoes on SYW... there is 3 or 4 on there I like but not near as much as the ones she sang on the Mirage album! :xoxo:

David 10-21-2009 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 848775)
hAs an arranger, I know how the composer takes the bow, while the arranger sweats out stave after stave making sure the orchestrations line up... I will say that Stevie's vocals on Tusk and Bella Donna are extremely pleasing to my ears...

She's a caterwauling wreck, a mainframe glitch, a whinnying old horse, a ship hitting an iceberg in the North Atlantic, an exploding roadside bomb, a subducting oceanic plate, a late-night infomercial, a fingernail on a blackboard, etc. etc. on Tusk & Bella Donna. She hasn't turned in a decent vocal since "In the Dawn" in 1970.

But we're still friends, John.

jbrownsjr 10-21-2009 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 849081)

But we're still friends, John.

That's pleasing to my ears as well... :woohoo:


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