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michelej1 07-31-2008 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by tlssln (Post 766313)
Didn't Stevie just say that she hasn't seen Joe since he broke up with her?

We know she's seen him. They were at that $10 million dollar Bat Mitzvah, weren't they?

Michele

Tango 07-31-2008 10:08 PM

Indeed, Joe was there. And, according to a fan who gave a review on The Nicks Fix, he was also at Stevie's concert, backstage, during the Cleveland at Blossom Music Center, and Stevie acknowledged him there. (6/25/05)

LukeA 07-31-2008 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Tango (Post 766322)
Indeed, Joe was there. And, according to a fan who gave a review on The Nicks Fix, he was also at Stevie's concert, backstage, during the Cleveland at Blossom Music Center, and Stevie acknowledged him there. (6/25/05)

So Stevie likes Joe and is in better graces with him than she is with Bob Welch?

Crazy.

michelej1 08-01-2008 12:30 AM

And Stevie just did that Platinum Weird stunt to help promote Dave Stewart's band. This is the thanks she gets.

Michele

LukeA 08-01-2008 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 766342)
And Stevie just did that Platinum Weird stunt to help promote Dave Stewart's band. This is the thanks she gets.

There was a poster on RMASN that loved the whole Platinum Weird thing (David O. knows who I'm talking about). I wonder what she thinks about it.

Tango 08-01-2008 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by LukeA (Post 766331)
So Stevie likes Joe and is in better graces with him than she is with Bob Welch?

Crazy.


You bring up an interesting dilemma, Luke, but it might be a faulty dilemma. I don't know that Stevie likes Joe better than Bob Welch, but she certainly spent more time with Joe in the past, calling him one of the "great loves in herlife," the only one that she would have given up everything for; but after their falling out, she didn't LIKE Joe for a long time. (although perhaps there's was some of that "tiny spark" somewhere in her heart for him; past relationships are so complicated!)

But regarding the incident that Bob brought up on The Rumours board recently, Bob has indicated he isn't absolutely certain Stevie even got his message. Stevie has helped Bob out on several occassions professionally, according to his Q&A here on The Penguin. Bob was already well known, building on his own name and career in his own right after leaving Fleetwood Mac. Stevie was a mega name in the biz at that time, even according to Bob, within and outside of Fleetwood Mac. I don't know if Bob ever offered help to Stevie on her albums or touring, as he had his own stuff going on. Joe was an opening act for Stevie.

Dragging other Eagles back in for a moment- Don Henley & Stevie have certainly collaborated over the years- and Don is on three of Stevie's songs that I can think of (Leather & Lace, Highway Man, Reconsider Me)--I don't know of any Joe musical collaboration with Stevie. Anyone see them on stage together at all during The Wild Heart tour for anything LIVE? And former Eagle Bernie Leadon helped Stevie out with acoustic & electric guitars, mandolin, and background vocals.

vivfox 08-01-2008 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Tango (Post 766356)
I don't know of any Joe Walsh musical collaboration with Stevie.

I think he might be the one playing guitar on One More Big Time R&R Star. And on one of her tours, possibly TOSOTM, before performing Has Anyone Ever Written... she would say "this is a song about a real scary man in this scary world of rock and roll."

Tango 08-01-2008 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 766362)
I think he might be the one playing guitar on One More Big Time R&R Star. And on one of her tours, possibly TOSOTM, before performing Has Anyone Ever Written... she would say "this is a song about a real scary man in this scary world of rock and roll."

Joe definitely wasn't playing on any of The Other Side Of The Mirror tours with Stevie. They already had their big falling out by then (Stevie's done an interview about that), and, TOSOTM album's "Long Way To Go" was a not so nice song (according to Stevie) written about Joe Walsh.

I haven't heard about Joe on One More Big Time Rock And Roll Star before- anyone else know about that one?

Tango 08-01-2008 08:11 AM

Update: You are correct viv. I checked The Penguin's discography:

http://discog.fleetwoodmac.net/songs...442&perfid=969

"Jimmy Iovine (Produced By), Waddy (Robert) Wachtel (Guitar), Joe Walsh (Guitar), Kenny Edwards (Bass), Steve(n) Jordan (Drums), Bill(y)/William Payne (Synthesizer), Sharon Celani (Background Vocals), Lori Perry-Nicks/Perry/Nicks (Background Vocals), Marilyn Martin (Background Vocals), Stevie Nicks (Vocals)"

Phil 08-01-2008 09:06 AM

Has it occurred to anyone that Dave Stewart's comments may have been said in jest? He is known for messing with the press so I'm just wondering if the whole thing could have been a piss-take?

DeeGeMe 08-01-2008 09:12 AM

I read Don Felder's book too and what he said about Walsh was rather illuminating and helped to explain (at least to me) how he could say some damn nasty things about Stevie on Stern's show. Anyway, Felder was closer to Walsh than the other band members and they hung out together, taking fishing trips, etc. with one another off-the-road (along with one of the guys from Chicago). When Walsh was at the height of his addictions, marriage falling apart, in danger of being fired from the Eagles, etc., Felder personally drove Walsh to rehab.

Yet when Henley & Frey fired Felder, Joe Walsh just stopped talking to him altogether. Now there may be a bit more to that story than is being told by Felder and maybe there were some things Felder did to end that friendship other than the fallout with Henley & Frey, but Felder seemed genuinally hurt that after being there for Walsh during his addictions and recovery (their daughters were also close friends), and when he most needed Walsh's friendship, Walsh vanished.

So that for me was a little insight into Walsh's "character" or lack therein.


But Dave Stewart???? Yeah it would ahve taken a lot of drugs for me to have done him. LOL.

David 08-01-2008 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 766362)
I think he might be the one playing guitar on One More Big Time R&R Star.

Don't say "I think." You didn't reach this conclusion on your own. Say "In the ENCHANTED booklet, there's a guitar credit for Joe Walsh on this song." Accuracy & clarity keep me happy.

dnightshade 08-01-2008 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by DeeGeMe (Post 766375)
IYet when Henley & Frey fired Felder, Joe Walsh just stopped talking to him altogether. Now there may be a bit more to that story than is being told by Felder and maybe there were some things Felder did to end that friendship other than the fallout with Henley & Frey, but Felder seemed genuinally hurt that after being there for Walsh during his addictions and recovery (their daughters were also close friends), and when he most needed Walsh's friendship, Walsh vanished.

So that for me was a little insight into Walsh's "character" or lack therein.

I've been popping in every now and again but things have been crazy busy so I've not been able to post as often as I'd like but I HAVE to add MO to this: Joe Walsh is a
DICK - plain and simple. He's out for himself and will throw anyone under the bus if it means saving his own hairy ass or making himself look good in any way. He's a two-faced back-stabbing kiss-and-tell LOSER whose mental capacities are beyond repair due to his brain being saturated in alcohol for so long. Anything he says needs to be taken at face-value as he's also a NOTORIOUS LIAR!

Tango 08-01-2008 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by dnightshade (Post 766395)
I've been popping in every now and again but things have been crazy busy so I've not been able to post as often as I'd like but I HAVE to add MO to this: Joe Walsh is a
DICK - plain and simple. He's out for himself and will throw anyone under the bus if it means saving his own hairy ass or making himself look good in any way. He's a two-faced back-stabbing kiss-and-tell LOSER whose mental capacities are beyond repair due to his brain being saturated in alcohol for so long. Anything he says needs to be taken at face-value as he's also a NOTORIOUS LIAR!


Come on Felder. Let that anger go. It's not good for you. ;) I promise I'll pick up your book.

AliP 08-01-2008 12:48 PM

Here are some pretty interesting quotes from Stevie regarding her relationship with Joe Walsh:

assuming this one is about Joe....
Reflections from the Other Side of the Mirror - 1989
(About 'Long Way to Go')"This song was not written in such a nice way. This happened to be an experience that I had with somebody that I did very much love who we had broken up a long time before, a year before, and I had just finished Rock a Little. And I walked into my house with Rock a Little under my arm and the phone rang and it was him. And he wanted me to drive two and a half hours to wherever it was that he lived. And I was very tired and it was very late, like three-thirty, four in the morning. I turned around to somebody that was living in my house at that time and I said 'Should I go?' And they said, 'Well, it's a pretty long way to say goodbye...again. Stevie, it has taken you an awfully long time to get over this. Do you want to go down and start it up again?' So I went back and forth in my mind and finally he said 'I'm sending a limousine for you.' And I said 'Alright.' And so, chump that I was, I got in the car and drove down there and played the record for him and he kept it, which I will never forgive him for. And I think the last thing that I did say to him was 'You know, it's a real long way to come to say goodbye again. I thought we already did that. Have fun, tell the world,' which basically means words you don't say over the radio. 'Goodbye, forever this time. Don't ever call me again.' And he put me in the car, and I was hysterical, in tears, and I cried all the way home. And I said to myself, I will never, ever, ever put myself in that position again. Nobody will ever do that to me again. As much as I loved him, I will never let that happen again."

BBC Interview with Nicky Horne ~ August 27, 1991
(about her relationship with Joe Walsh)"We went on the Wild Heart tour and after about a week I went into a bar and he [Joe] was sitting there and he just looked up at me and that was it. It was love at first site. You should have seen me, I went and yelled at people about his sound checks. I bought him incredible silk shirts and leg warmers that he wore! I took really good care of him and I think that is what scared Joe the most because I was too in tune with him and he was too used to being out of tune with everyone. I really understood him well. I was really hard nosed about him. If my house was full and Joe called I would tell everyone to get out.

BBC Interview with Nicky Horne ~ August 27, 1991
(about why she broke up with Joe Walsh)"What happened at the end was I was getting ready to cut two songs with Waddy Wachtel producing and we only had two nights to rehearse and Joe had been off in New Zealand or something and he came down about one or two in the mornting or something and he was real good friends with everyone in my band. That would have been fine any other night but I was really angry with what Joe had done because he completely screwed up that session. He just had everyone dying laughing because he just tells a hundred jokes and everyone was just rolling in the floor laughing and I was going “this is not fair” because he is not being sensitive at all to this whole situation and “you know I would give up anything for you, even my dammed career for you if he was serious enough." I had a limousine and I asked Joe if he wanted to take me home or come home with him and he said, “well, I didn’t tell you this but I’m leaving for Australia like tonight and I have to pack so I’m just going to get a ride home with Waddy” and I said “ok” and started walking towards the door and I turned around and said “Joe I don’t like where this relationship is going cause it’s not going anywhere and I don’t want to do it anymore.” And I started walking towards the door and he said “well you know, if you walk out the door, you basically cease to exist.” And I just din't stop walking."

BBC Interview with Nicky Horne ~August 27, 1991
(about whether she still loves Joe Walsh)"I will always love Joe. It will probably be hard for me to find somebody else that ever ever made me feel like Joe did. [After the breakup] At that point I just thought it was over, I thought that I would just be an old maid and just live with a bunch of dogs and cats in the mountains somewhere and that would be it because there just wouldn't be anything else for me."


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