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gldstwmn 07-27-2004 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by hayley
I can't remember the exact quote, but when he said something to the effect of "strength and wisdom are not opposing ideals" in regard to the war in Iraq and terrorism, I wanted to do a victory dance.

It was an amazing speech. If he can't run again, couldn't he at least be vice-president?? ;-)

That was beautiful, wasn't it? There's a lot of people out there who wish he could run again. :nod:

gldstwmn 07-27-2004 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by dissention
It was brilliant and it was genius for him to make that remark about how he and Bush dodged service. My jaw dropped. And Carter was devastating.

The man has so much integrity. I love him. He said everything he needed to say in the most diplomatic of ways. he so deserved his Nobel prize.

strandinthewind 07-27-2004 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dissention
:sorry:

Gimme a break, my liberal juices are flowing at an alarming rate. Glenn Close is staying at my hotel, for cripes sake. :laugh:

I have to rest before I go out, because I stayed up all ngiht watching the speeches, then had to drive here this morning and driving freaks me out. I am determined to be a delagate in '08, too.

No Harm No Foul - of course!!!! :xoxo: :angel:

OMG I LOVE GLENN CLOSE (even though Patti Luponne was a better Norma Desmond and shoulda opened on Broadway instead of Close :laugh: :rolleyes: ). She is a great actress and from what I hear a great citizen - she seems to care about all involved - not just the top people!!!!! Please tell her I said hello!!!!!

CarneVaca 07-27-2004 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
He then praised Clinton and then SHOCKINGLY praised Kerry. SCARBOROUGH said Kerry's Vietnam experience proved he could act under pressure and that he would trust Kerry in the WH due to that. My jaw hit the floor as did everyone on the panel. In fact, Chris M. was like did you just say what I think you said :laugh:

Have fun at the convention!!!!!!

Don't be so shocked, Strand. This is the media today. Cheerleaders. If Bush launches another war tomorrow, they'll be right there telling the American people how we have this amazing technology and the weapons are so accurate that they will hit only the intended targets, and aren't we just so great for fighting these "humane wars." Bull**** media. They'll be doing the same thing a month from now when the Repugnants invade New York. THis is a pep rally, and judging from the gushing posts here already, they are succeeding. But, next week something will come out about how Kerry left his poor little kitten unattended for eight hours when he was a teenager and the little thing nearly starved itself to death, and everybody will be anti-Kerry again.

By the way, the fallout of the DNC in Boston is going to be huge. Did any of these morons consider for half a second what this convention and the over-the-top security would do the city? Yesterday, restaurateurs and other businesses were complaining about no business, saying they might as well close.

Stupid.

DrummerDeanna 07-27-2004 10:02 AM

LOL...I just got to work -and we've (NPR) got a lot of people over at the DNC...so that whole thing is recorded...I walk in and they've got "Don't Stop" BLASTING through Morning Edition....very cool for me hahah...we were a'jammin!! hehe

gldstwmn 07-27-2004 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dissention
:sorry:

Gimme a break, my liberal juices are flowing at an alarming rate. Glenn Close is staying at my hotel, for cripes sake. :laugh:

I have to rest before I go out, because I stayed up all ngiht watching the speeches, then had to drive here this morning and driving freaks me out. I am determined to be a delagate in '08, too.

Have fun today!!! Try to find Randi for us and tell her how much we love her! Say hello to Teddy for me. ;) :lol:

gldstwmn 07-27-2004 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna
LOL...I just got to work -and we've (NPR) got a lot of people over at the DNC...so that whole thing is recorded...I walk in and they've got "Don't Stop" BLASTING through Morning Edition....very cool for me hahah...we were a'jammin!! hehe

Woohoo! :woohoo:

ShangriLaTroubl 07-27-2004 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by dissention
It was brilliant and it was genius for him to make that remark about how he and Bush dodged service. My jaw dropped. And Carter was devastating.


I love that as well...I think it was very effective for him to bash (i guess you could call it that) himself when he bashed Bush on certain issues...I was kinda surprised about that...lol

Chris

strandinthewind 07-27-2004 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ShangriLaTroubl
I love that as well...I think it was very effective for him to bash (i guess you could call it that) himself when he bashed Bush on certain issues...I was kinda surprised about that...lol

Chris

I agree - he did not really bash. he just said here is what we stand for - here is what they stand for. If you agree with them - by all means vote with them. Granted - it was spun in the D's favor, etc. - but it was not "Bush a lying SLB *(#*U)(#$%*)#$#)$" - that was refreshing in today's climate.

CarneVaca 07-27-2004 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
The man has so much integrity. I love him. He said everything he needed to say in the most diplomatic of ways. he so deserved his Nobel prize.

Really!?

Carter certified a stolen election in the Dominican Republican in 1990

In the same year, he blackmailed Aristide of Haiti so he could get Aristide's oppnent, a US-backed dictator, in power. Of course, this all went to crap a couple of years later. And we all know what happened to Aristide a few months ago. Aristide just wouldn't play ball with American imperialists, including Carter.

In 1978, Carter sent a letter to Samoza of Nicaragua commending him for his human rights initiatives while criticizing the dictator publicly.

In 1979, he proposed military intervention in Nicaragua when the Sandinistas looked like they were about to take over. He wanted to install a US-backed junta instead of allowing the people of Nicaragua to choose a leader.

That same year, he started funding illegally the Islamic rebels in Afghanistan who later turned their attention to the US and as full-fledged terrorists knocked down the Twin Towers.

Oh, and do you know what his CIA was doing in Angola at the time? Eh, I think these examples are enough.

Nice guy, that Carter.

Meanwhile, he is busy in Venezuela making sure the current president gets thrown out in a very, very sinister "election" during which we should expect to see a US-backed megalomaniac take over. This of course will be done as Carter plays the role of unbiased election monitor. Watch what happens.

Nice guy.

strandinthewind 07-27-2004 10:22 AM

Now Now Carne - party pooper - feeling a little cynical today :laugh:

By ALL accounts, Carter has integrity. I am sure he has had to do some things that were not that great - who has not in their life. Plus, Carter plays in a game where the stakes are high and the best result is not always possible. But, on the whole, he is a man of integrity and at least he is trying to make the world a better place. So I say stop harping on the bad and look to the good!!! :cool:

gldstwmn 07-27-2004 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CarneVaca
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Nice guy.

Go piss up a rope. :wavey:

CarneVaca 07-27-2004 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind
By ALL accounts, Carter has integrity. I am sure he has had to do some things that were not that great - who has not in their life. Plus, Carter plays in a game where the stakes are high and the best result is not always possible. But, on the whole, he is a man of integrity and at least he is trying to make the world a better place. So I say stop harping on the bad and look to the good!!! :cool:

Bull****. If he truly were man of integrity he wouldn't be in Venezuela right now pushing the Bush doctrine of kicking out the socialist-leaning, elected leader of the country so that the Americans can install their puppet and seize the oil through privatization.

Wake up, man. Carter is sick-ass imperialist like Bush.

CarneVaca 07-27-2004 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn
Go piss up a rope. :wavey:

Comfort in denial. Enjoy it.

Patti 07-27-2004 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CarneVaca
Comfort in denial. Enjoy it.

Well, if need be, then I will stay in my little haven of denial right now. You're welcome to try to rain on our parade all you want, but the fact remains, those were some great speeches last night. And Carter DOES have integrity. A person should be judged by the whole sum of their lives and overall he's done a lot of great things for people in need.

And count me in on the "I would vote for Clinton again in a heartbeat"!


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