It would have been nice to have a real video.

Yes, it did have to grow on me. At first listen, I liked about half the songs. After a few more listens, I really liked most of them. (Still don't like Illume or EFO....Yes, I know.) I took some listens but I am particularly fond of Lindsey's work. This is definitely some of his best material.

SYW did have to grow on me. My initial favorite was Peacekeeper. I just LOVED Stevie's "love is a sweeet surprise" and those Aw Aw Aw Aw Aw Aw sounds (how do you put those into words??) :) Another initial favorite was Goodbye Baby, and now I never listen to that one. Now I think SYW has some great stuff on it, but it's an appreciation that took some time to develop.

I agree, though I think that Thrown Down would have made a fabulous single, or even Running Through the Garden. SYW and Peacekeeper are both great songs, but the melodies are bit too sugary sweet.

However, I loved the album from the first time I heard it and my fondness has only grown exponentially with each subsequent listen. I couldn't have imagined a better album coming from them. And as for length, it's just more Mac to love!

Speaking about restructured setlists I had to do one when I transfered this album to cassette since I only had a cassette walkman (you know ;)). I took out four of the songs on the album and changed the running order since I've always thought the running order is one of my biggest complaints on Say You Will. So it looked like this:

Side A
Bleed To Love Her
Thrown Down
Peacekeeper
What's The World Coming To
Smile At You
Red Rover
Running Through The Garden

Side B
Destiny Rules
Miranda
Say You Will
Steal Your Heart Away
Everybody Finds Out
Goodbye Baby
Say Goodbye

To me it works better... :)


Song of the moment - Man Of The World

ok, let me get this straight...you DON'T LIKE Thrown Down, but you like Silver Girl and Illume? And dare i say it, Everybody Finds Out? And Say You Will?
I'm just trying to get a handle on your process, I don't think i've heard anyone else call Thrown Down "wretched" and in fact it was one of my first favorites. Silver Girl is a bit wretched for me...The whole thing is just very mysterious... :)
Amber

Me too, I totally agree, precisely. I thought Peacekeeper was a weak, middle of the road, safe single, therefore too boring to really "sell" the album (although I like the song, don't get me wrong)
Amber

I'm notorious for my hate of Thrown Down, Amber. :laugh:

I don't like the music very much and I detest her voice on it. It really gets under my skin, for some reason. I think the overall effect and feel of the song is too pedestrian for such a song. It's too slow.

I used to hate Silver Girl and while it doesn't have the best lyrics, it has a better effect than TD. Illume is antoehr one that grew on me like a fungus.

That is so weird to me!! But you like Bette Midler, right? I can't believe you like Silver Girl better. That song makes me want to smack someone (stevie) around! And not in the fun way :D . But, everyone is different, and that's ok.
Tell me, do you like Running Through the Garden? I didn't like it as much until I noticed the kickin base line and the orchestral violins, or whatever. Also it has a good tempo for me...It took me a minute to realize how good it was, though. There've been many stevie songs where i was repulsed initially by the cheesiness and self absorbed, laughable, lyrics...only to be completely enraptured by them when i got used to them. And I do love her best, despite a bold dash for the finish line by Lindsey during my two front row seat concert experiences... :xoxo: anywhoo, moochas smooches!
Amber

Can I just add I HATE when people make 12 song SYW's :laugh:

It didn't have to grow on me at all. I really thought it was a terrific album from the first listen! :thumbsup:

Also, my best friend (who is a raging, Beatles fan) really liked the album. She would tell me truthfully, if she didn't. She was impressed when she listen to it, and she isn't the crazied, Mac fan that I am. Therefore, I think that is a good testment to the quality of the album. :D

Cool! I only have a cassette walkman too. I should try that. I just put them on the tape in their original order.

I *love* Running Through the Garden. But, I must say, the demo is better. Those dueling vocals are AWESOME.

I know what you mean about some of Stevie songs, I feel the same way sometimes. Stuff like Two Kinds of Love, Ghosts, That Made Me Stronger, and After the Glitter Fades just drives me bonkers. But the rest is great. ;)

Silver Girl gets repeated a lot when I play SYW, I love her voice and the ending is among my favorites.

And, yes, I love Bette. She's the kind of chick you'd love to have a beer with in a seedy bar and tell filthy jokes to. :laugh:

OMG....the ultimate concert experience...Bette Midler opening for FM. I'd die.

Hmmm...
 

Yer best friend has great taste in music though, she's a cool Beatle trader & a fellow BZ member too :nod: