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elle 12-08-2015 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh2003 (Post 1176300)
I don't think it's at all a bad sign that Stevie wants to do a few "solo projects" before an FM album. In fact, I figured that was a given and what she was likely holding out for all along.

She can do a small solo tour in the spring, April-May, while the band tinkers with songs she gives them, then hit the studio with them over the summer, putting the new album at a fall 2016/spring 2017 release.

no, i think that would be a perfect timeline. as long as they are not in a standstill anymore and they can plan their year, it should be all good.

the problem is that we are now very unsure whether we can trust ANYTHING written in that "article".

tabruns 12-08-2015 12:22 PM

I actually think most of the sturm und drang comes from fans rather than the group itself.

It's not at all surprising that Nicks mentions doing a few solo projects prior to the new Mac album coming out. It's in line with Buckingham's comments that the new album may take awhile to finish, and with Nicks's previous comments about wanting to release an expanded version of 24 Karat Gold.

The major news is that Nicks is now saying there will be a new Mac album, something she wasn't saying before.

elle 12-08-2015 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by tabruns (Post 1176308)
I actually think most of the sturm und drang comes from fans rather than the group itself.

It's not at all surprising that Nicks mentions doing a few solo projects prior to the new Mac album coming out. It's in line with Buckingham's comments that the new album may take awhile to finish, and with Nicks's previous comments about wanting to release an expanded version of 24 Karat Gold.

The major news is that Nicks is now saying there will be a new Mac album, something she wasn't saying before.

actually, most fans are just transmitting what Christine, Mick and Lindsey have been saying either in interviews, in Mick's meet and greets and in Lindsey's encounters with fans.

all three of them were very clear since the beginning of 2014 that everyone in FM except Stevie wants that new FM album, that they've been already working on bunch of new songs with at least 7 finished, that they are really hoping that Stevie will get on board, but that they will find other options to get their new material out if she's not on board, and that they are frustrated with not knowing what is next for FM and not being able to make any other plans because they keep waiting for Stevie to make up her mind one way or another.

so if this piece of news is true, and if Stevie has finally come to a decision to join the FM album, that must be a huge relief for the rest of the band, so they can finally make some plans.

and yes, probably since the early 80s this has been how FM operates, we just didn't know all this since there was no social media, and maybe Mick and Lindsey were not as open to talking to fans as they are these days. that doesn't mean these people don't get fed up with the same ole inefficient way of operating, as they are getting older and the time is running out.

FuzzyPlum 12-08-2015 01:49 PM

What an absolutely crap piece of journalism this is. Regarding the update- I assume this is extra information the writer happens to 'remember' from the original meeting as opposed to 'new' information that subsequently came through to him. My next query is- Mick will be working on a 'Fleetwood Mac project of some kind' or has he got that wrong too? Will it in fact turn out to be a 'Mick Fleetwood project'?

elle 12-08-2015 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1176315)
What an absolutely crap piece of journalism this is. Regarding the update- I assume this is extra information the writer happens to 'remember' from the original meeting as opposed to 'new' information that subsequently came through to him. My next query is- Mick will be working on a 'Fleetwood Mac project of some kind' or has he got that wrong too? Will it in fact turn out to be a 'Mick Fleetwood project'?

:laugh: i know, i just wrote this exact same thing somewhere else.

i really hope you are right and this will be some Mick Fleetwood project, not that FM will be slaving away in the studio the whole year waiting for SN to join, kinda like they did according to Destiny Rules doc for SYW.

i want Lindsey to have the first part of the year for his solo projects. i want him to put some of that treasure trove of new music he has been recording since 2012 out as another solo album, and i want a solo tour in 2016. last time we saw him solo on tour was 2012 - way too long for my taste! i'm sure he conveniently forgot by now that he promised a "request" solo tour. :p :angel:

FuzzyPlum 12-08-2015 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1176316)

i really hope you are right and this will be some Mick Fleetwood project, not that FM will be slaving away in the studio the whole year waiting for SN to join, kinda like they did according to Destiny Rules doc for SYW.

My bet is it will be a Mick Fleetwood thing. Perhaps another Blues Band album or something (perhaps with Christine on board- that would be great). Otherwise I can imagine him working on yet another retrospective FM album... Fleetwood Mac: The Platinum Collection. Yawn.

shackin'up 12-08-2015 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 1176262)
Tomorrow she tells something else.

Call me Nostradamus. I knew it before the update! :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Fannymac 12-08-2015 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh2003 (Post 1176300)
I don't think it's at all a bad sign that Stevie wants to do a few "solo projects" before an FM album. In fact, I figured that was a given and what she was likely holding out for all along.

She can do a small solo tour in the spring, April-May, while the band tinkers with songs she gives them, then hit the studio with them over the summer, putting the new album at a fall 2016/spring 2017 release.

TOTALLY agree.....I don't think we'll see the FM album until late 2016 or early 2017.....remember, 2017 is the band's 50th anniversary, so it only makes sense that they would release the album and do another tour. That gives Stevie a good portion of 2016 to do her solo thing and get it out of her system! There WILL be another FM album with all 5 members....maybe not as soon as some would like, but it WILL happen!

PenguinHead 12-08-2015 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by johnnystorms (Post 1176294)
I'e always thought the same. They MILK the "drama" to the press, because it has kept them in the press since 1977! None of them are stupid. Keep the tension simmering, and when they "re-unite, re-convene, re-habilitate", the press EATS it up!

I don't think the drama is contrived. They are all disparate personalities with different agendas. Stevie's and Lindsey's contentious relationship has ebbed and waned ever since they joined the band. No doubt they have exploited that aspect of the band. It went into hype-drive with Rumours.

But the tension is real, and exists to this day. It's why they only made five studio albums. Live albums, compilations, solo albums, with band members coming and going and coming back filled the large spaces in between.

The drama is inherent in their DNA, beginning when Peter Green dramatically left the band. With this massive world tour, they are back on the radar on a large scale. There is no need for deliberate tactics to garner the attention of the press.

elle 12-08-2015 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fannymac (Post 1176326)
TOTALLY agree.....I don't think we'll see the FM album until late 2016 or early 2017.....remember, 2017 is the band's 50th anniversary, so it only makes sense that they would release the album and do another tour. That gives Stevie a good portion of 2016 to do her solo thing and get it out of her system! There WILL be another FM album with all 5 members....maybe not as soon as some would like, but it WILL happen!

well yeah, some of us (and some of the band members!) wanted a FM album in 2010, then 2012, and in 2014/15.... we could have had 2-3 FM albums instead of just a measly one, some with and some without missing or non-cooperative band members, with all the material they recorded so far. but it is what it is.

right now, things are good. at least we know we will get to hear some of the material they recorded 2012-2014. and 2017 sounds the most realistic for the new album to come out right now. which is better than nothing, and better than band members sitting around waiting.

FuzzyPlum 12-08-2015 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Fannymac (Post 1176326)
TOTALLY agree.....I don't think we'll see the FM album until late 2016 or early 2017.....remember, 2017 is the band's 50th anniversary, so it only makes sense that they would release the album and do another tour. That gives Stevie a good portion of 2016 to do her solo thing and get it out of her system! There WILL be another FM album with all 5 members....maybe not as soon as some would like, but it WILL happen!

For me, seeing an album in 2017 was always going to be a worst case scenario. I mean, its great there's some certainty from the horses mouth, but as has been said, there's been so much waiting, this recent Stevie announcement was a real source of excitement for a while. I feel a bit deflated now. Stevie can shove her solo project up her Vault as far as I'm concerned.

Nick 12-08-2015 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1176331)
For me, seeing an album in 2017 was always going to be a worst case scenario. I mean, its great there's some certainty from the horses mouth, but as has been said, there's been so much waiting, this recent Stevie announcement was a real source of excitement for a while. I feel a bit deflated now. Stevie can shove her solo project up her Vault as far as I'm concerned.

I know how you feel. We've waited for this never ending tour to conclude and yet the new album still seems so far off. As a Stevie fan, I'm hoping this solo thing next year is a very quick recording of Vault 2, nobody wants a repackaged version of Vault 1. I also hope she's not touring behind this.
I'd rather she get her ass in the studio with Fleetwood Mac to record that album ASAP.

Phil 12-08-2015 06:11 PM

I wouldn't mind a repackaging of Vault 1 as long as some tracks were re-recorded/remixed and of course, Vault 2 was included.

James89 12-08-2015 06:32 PM

Stevie had a lacklustre response for 24KG, even though it hit #7, so surely she realises that whatever she follows it up with won't be greeted with huge success.

A new Mac album, the first since 2003 and the first with all five since 1987 WILL do incredibly well and I just can't bloody wait for that day to come.

Surely if it does come it will be one of the most anticipated albums of all time?

elle 12-08-2015 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by James89 (Post 1176336)
Stevie had a lacklustre response for 24KG, even though it hit #7, so surely she realises that whatever she follows it up with won't be greeted with huge success.

A new Mac album, the first since 2003 and the first with all five since 1987 WILL do incredibly well and I just can't bloody wait for that day to come.

Surely if it does come it will be one of the most anticipated albums of all time?

:lol: why? old legendary bands are putting out new albums all the time, and some after a long abstinence from recording together. how anticipated and successful they are in most cases heavily depends on their pr campaign, which in this day and age includes highly and smartly developed social media strategy, peppered with the right tv appearances (like the Today Show where they announced Christine is rejoining), etc. if history can teach us anything, FM has not had a good marketing strategy in a long long time, and i don't really expect the things to change for this album either. but it would be really nice to be proven wrong!

i don't think Mick and Lindsey, at least, expect the new album to be any kind of commercial success.

olive 12-08-2015 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1176337)
:lol: why? old legendary bands are putting out new albums all the time, and some after a long abstinence from recording together.
.

and no radio station ever plays them

Nick 12-08-2015 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1176337)
:lol: why? old legendary bands are putting out new albums all the time, and some after a long abstinence from recording together. how anticipated and successful they are in most cases heavily depends on their pr campaign, which in this day and age includes highly and smartly developed social media strategy, peppered with the right tv appearances (like the Today Show where they announced Christine is rejoining), etc. if history can teach us anything, FM has not had a good marketing strategy in a long long time, and i don't really expect the things to change for this album either. but it would be really nice to be proven wrong!

i don't think Mick and Lindsey, at least, expect the new album to be any kind of commercial success.

I remember a new Eagles album being a big deal several years back, went on to be a big seller. As for Fleetwood Mac, I think if the right first single was chosen for AC and or Adult Top 40 stations, it could do well worldwide. Would be a good idea to release around the holidays. Sure, it won't sell Adele type numbers, but better than a Stevie solo album would sell. Out of all these fans around the world who paid to see these 5 in concert, I couldn't see the new album bombing.

KarmaContestant 12-08-2015 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1176322)
My bet is it will be a Mick Fleetwood thing. Perhaps another Blues Band album or something (perhaps with Christine on board- that would be great). Otherwise I can imagine him working on yet another retrospective FM album... Fleetwood Mac: The Platinum Collection. Yawn.

Rumours 40th anniversary edition. :p

BigAl84 12-08-2015 08:50 PM

I wouldn't mind a repackaging of 24K with a new, proper remastering! There are weird things going on with the final mix of that album. She could pair it with a second disc of live recordings from the Fillmore or Wiltern Shows!

louielouie2000 12-08-2015 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1176343)
I wouldn't mind a repackaging of 24K with a new, proper remastering! There are weird things going on with the final mix of that album. She could pair it with a second disc of live recordings from the Fillmore or Wiltern Shows!

I doubt she's going to sink any more money into that losing venture. However, I could easily see her doing a second Songs From The Vault album, and a small theater tour this summer to promote the songs from both albums. Then returning to FM by Autumn.

bombaysaffires 12-08-2015 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 1176334)
I wouldn't mind a repackaging of Vault 1 as long as some tracks were re-recorded/remixed and of course, Vault 2 was included.

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Originally Posted by BigAl84 (Post 1176343)
I wouldn't mind a repackaging of 24K with a new, proper remastering! There are weird things going on with the final mix of that album. She could pair it with a second disc of live recordings from the Fillmore or Wiltern Shows!

nooo.... way too soon for any sort of remix/remaster/rerelease of that album. no one who hasn't already bought it is going to buy it in a new format. And it would be a waste of the opportunity to get new music out.

It's bad enough we're not getting new Mac music any time soon, for her to delay a FM album for a retread would be an even greater sin.

:distress:

lilyfee 12-08-2015 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LB Freakazoid (Post 1176291)
I always felt that SN would do another album with FM. I must admit,though, it was fun to watch the debate whether she would or not.
How could she not???

Like waiting for Hillary Clinton to announce she was running for president!:laugh:

The idea of a FM album/"project" without Stevie sounds incredibly ominous but I am glad to hear she has officially committed to another album!

I would welcome SFTV 2 and a small Stevie tour in the interim before the next FM album!!

I love that people are always asking about Buckingham Nicks. Maybe all this pestering will get them to actually release it!

Stevie and FM both should hire Dave Stewart to promote their album, IMHO. From what I hear, a lot of the successful 24KG promotion (i.e. Stevie's photo exhibit) were his ideas.

Slight tangent, but I wish the band/Stevie would stop using exclusively morning TV to try to get the word out. They say the same thing on every show and I of course speak for myself here, but I don't know anyone who watches morning shows. The only time I watch is if the show has posted a clip of someone I like on Youtube. I think they'd be better off with late night appearances or high-profile cameos in other mediums if they want new fans.

I'm in my twenties and I discovered the band a few years ago through Stevie's American Horror Story appearance. My dad was a fan and had some of their old albums but buying new music is the last thing on his mind. Stevie seems to be the only one willing to advertise to younger generations, but truly, people my age will buy good music. They just have to find out about it somehow and decide it's worth buying. :shrug:

secondhandchain 12-09-2015 12:01 AM

She disappoints yet again. She's done enough solo projects lately.

michelej1 12-09-2015 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1176315)
What an absolutely crap piece of journalism this is. Regarding the update- I assume this is extra information the writer happens to 'remember' from the original meeting as opposed to 'new' information that subsequently came through to him.

Good question. Did someone call and tell him to clarify his story or did he just decide to update it when he saw social media response to the news.

Michele

iamnotafraid 12-09-2015 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1176352)
Did someone call and tell him to clarify his story or did he just decide to update it when he saw social media response to the news.

Michele


Maybe he's just a raconteur.

RavenOfRhiannon 12-09-2015 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1176352)
Good question. Did someone call and tell him to clarify his story or did he just decide to update it when he saw social media response to the news.

Michele

My guess is that Stevie's management made the clarification. Only way they would have run an update that quickly

WildHearted 12-09-2015 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1176352)
Good question. Did someone call and tell him to clarify his story or did he just decide to update it when he saw social media response to the news.

Michele

Based on his little "oh the drama" type comment at the end of the update, I'm willing to bet he was contacted by someone in Stevie / FM's management to clarify after they got wind that the story was making the rounds.

jbrownsjr 12-09-2015 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1176315)
What an absolutely crap piece of journalism this is. Regarding the update- I assume this is extra information the writer happens to 'remember' from the original meeting as opposed to 'new' information that subsequently came through to him. My next query is- Mick will be working on a 'Fleetwood Mac project of some kind' or has he got that wrong too? Will it in fact turn out to be a 'Mick Fleetwood project'?

It was so poorly written.

secondhandchain 12-09-2015 09:25 PM

2 solo albums since 2011. 1 FM studio album since 2004. It's hard for me to even like her anymore.

KarmaContestant 12-09-2015 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by secondhandchain (Post 1176392)
2 solo albums since 2011. 1 FM studio album since 2004. It's hard for me to even like her anymore.

:shrug:

That's harsh.

People have to follow their own path in life. We each have our own route to happiness, and sometimes those paths cross, and sometimes they don't.

Think of the albums that might have been between 1987 and 1997, had Lindsey not walked out completely.

But again, we have to follow our own paths. No one else is going to put you first, but you.

BombaySapphire3 12-10-2015 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by KarmaContestant (Post 1176395)
:shrug:

That's harsh.

People have to follow their own path in life. We each have our own route to happiness, and sometimes those paths cross, and sometimes they don't.

Think of the albums that might have been between 1987 and 1997, had Lindsey not walked out completely.

But again, we have to follow our own paths. No one else is going to put you first, but you.

Not to mention Christine leaving for 16 years.Sure I would have loved it if FM had made a new album right away instead of the long and lucrative oldies tour.If Stevie had not been in the mood to do it however her work on it would suffer and after her having dropped the ball so badly on Tango I for one would hate to see that.

MikeVielhaber 12-10-2015 03:14 PM

The difference between Stevie now and Lindsey and Christine before is timing and age. They had time to leave and come back then. Christine couldn't take 16 years off now. She'd be, what, 89? Lindsey, too, would be quite old in 10 years. Late 70s. The band doesn't have all that time to waste anymore. Stevie also took a break from the band in the 90s too. Stevie can keep going as long as she wants to, she's in control of his solo career, after all. The band will not go on indefinitely and probably has only a short time remaining as there are 5 people that need to come together for it to work and they're all getting up there in age. So, as far as the band is concerned, Stevie just isn't afforded the opportunity to take an extended break anymore and expect everything to just pick back up later.

michelej1 12-10-2015 04:45 PM

And this is why I'm here.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...psesgdet0p.jpg

The deluxe edition is as annoying as the original double album package. It's impossible to handle it without 5 things falling onto the floor.

Michele

KarmaContestant 12-10-2015 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 1176416)
.If Stevie had not been in the mood to do it however her work on it would suffer and after her having dropped the ball so badly on Tango I for one would hate to see that.

Completely. I was listening to Say You Will a couple days ago, and it's been a while I was caught of guard by how detached Stevie sounds on a couple tracks. There in her head but not her heart.


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Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber (Post 1176417)
So, as far as the band is concerned, Stevie just isn't afforded the opportunity to take an extended break anymore and expect everything to just pick back up later.

You make a great point. There is a sense of urgency about all of this because of their age, and Stevie should give that consideration.

lilyfee 12-10-2015 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1176420)
And this is why I'm here.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...psesgdet0p.jpg

The deluxe edition is as annoying as the original double album package. It's impossible to handle it without 5 things falling onto the floor.

Michele

Stevie's hand placement...:laugh:

vivfox 12-10-2015 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by lilyfee (Post 1176436)
Stevie's hand placement...:laugh

It's nearing the 2 O'clock hour.:lol::woohoo:

jbrownsjr 12-11-2015 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lilyfee (Post 1176436)
Stevie's hand placement...:laugh:

And Christine has the backside. lol

bsavi4 12-11-2015 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fannymac (Post 1176326)
TOTALLY agree.....I don't think we'll see the FM album until late 2016 or early 2017.....remember, 2017 is the band's 50th anniversary, so it only makes sense that they would release the album and do another tour. That gives Stevie a good portion of 2016 to do her solo thing and get it out of her system! There WILL be another FM album with all 5 members....maybe not as soon as some would like, but it WILL happen!

That's what I've come to expect. 2017 album and tour (band's 50th, Rumours's 40th, Tango's 30th, Dance's 20th anniversaries). I just hope all of this pressure for new material from fans doesn't cause the band to release another Say You Will type double album that sounds very disjoint and includes way too many poor songs that should have been scrapped. I'd prefer an 11 track album that flows nicely to an 18-20 track bloated double album that's crammed with filler for the sole purpose of getting as much new material out as possible. Even with Stevie just contributing a few vault songs, there should be enough quality material from the 3 to create a relatively even single album without any weak fillers.

vivfox 12-11-2015 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bsavi4 (Post 1176464)
I just hope all of this pressure for new material from fans doesn't cause the band to release another Say You Will type double album that sounds very disjoint and includes way too many poor songs that should have been scrapped. I'd prefer an 11 track album that flows nicely to an 18-20 track bloated double album that's crammed with filler for the sole purpose of getting as much new material out as possible. Even with Stevie just contributing a few vault songs, there should be enough quality material from the 3 to create a relatively even single album without any weak fillers.

I respect your opinion but just wanted to say that to me SYW is a very good album and I am glad to have all those songs. I would always welcome another double album from FM.That's a whole slew new songs for us to enjoy the rest of our lives. Music that we deserve.

Fannymac 12-11-2015 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bsavi4 (Post 1176464)
That's what I've come to expect. 2017 album and tour (band's 50th, Rumours's 40th, Tango's 30th, Dance's 20th anniversaries). I just hope all of this pressure for new material from fans doesn't cause the band to release another Say You Will type double album that sounds very disjoint and includes way too many poor songs that should have been scrapped. I'd prefer an 11 track album that flows nicely to an 18-20 track bloated double album that's crammed with filler for the sole purpose of getting as much new material out as possible. Even with Stevie just contributing a few vault songs, there should be enough quality material from the 3 to create a relatively even single album without any weak fillers.

I don't think you have to worry about that....I think this album is VERY important to the members of the group, and I'm betting that they'll ALL bring their A game!!


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