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martyk 12-09-2015 05:04 PM

First post ever
 
I just joined up here after searching for reviews of Tusk Expanded and being directed here. Lots of interesting posts, so I figured that I'd sign on. By way of full disclosure, my life philosophy begins with the assumption that Lindsey Buckingham hung the moon. That said, here are a few thoughts from my take on the new Tusk:

For me, the obvious stunner is "Brown Eyes". What were FM possibly thinking when they chose to release the non Peter Green version? The guitar playing is so riveting that, after hearing this one, the original release seems to miss the main point of the song. Amazing stuff.

The other "wow" moment is the demo track of "I Know I'm Not Wrong". There's a hypnotic quality to the strummed acoustic guitars that seems (to me, anyway) to foreshadow some of what Lindsey is doing these days. It also recalls some of the Eno/Lou Reed influenced alt-rock bands that were emerging at the time, notably The Feelies. This is one of my all-time favorite songs and this version just spins it a whole new way.

The biggest missed opportunity IMO is the live set. While the tracks they've included are great stuff, I wish the band had done a one-off show on the recent tour dedicated to this project. A live performance of the entire album by the current crew would have allowed a look at how the songs have evolved over time in live performance - a critical piece of this puzzle, IMO.

Anyway, lots more thoughts, but I'll leave it at that for the first time out. I'm looking forward to visiting with all of you again soon.

BLY 12-09-2015 05:30 PM

I also wish there was a little more of "alternative" vocal arrangements on that disc.

GJK 12-09-2015 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn (Post 1176313)
I might have some of these on my computer. Let me look and see what I have.
Here is Mobile 1980 SBD whole show:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/tn...obile_1980.zip
Also I've only been able to listen in bits and pieces so far. The live version of The Chain is blistering.

Great! Have you any idea when in 1980 this was?

WayOfTheDragon 12-09-2015 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by GJK (Post 1176381)
Great! Have you any idea when in 1980 this was?

The Mobile, AL show is from August 11, 1980.

elle 12-09-2015 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by martyk (Post 1176375)
I just joined up here after searching for reviews of Tusk Expanded and being directed here. Lots of interesting posts, so I figured that I'd sign on. By way of full disclosure, my life philosophy begins with the assumption that Lindsey Buckingham hung the moon.

welcome, glad you decided to jump in!! :wavey: always great to have someone with that opinion join this board! :xoxo: :blob2: :angel: :cool:

btw completely agree with you on Brown Eyes with Peter Green. they must have been completely out of it, drunk and high to not release a version based on that track.

PenguinHead 12-10-2015 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by martyk (Post 1176375)
The biggest missed opportunity IMO is the live set. While the tracks they've included are great stuff, I wish the band had done a one-off show on the recent tour dedicated to this project. A live performance of the entire album by the current crew would have allowed a look at how the songs have evolved over time in live performance - a critical piece of this puzzle, IMO.

Great idea! Yet on the massive tour they just completed, they were lock-step with their set list; the Tusk deluxe was not on the agenda. Not only would have taken a lot of prep work to pull off. They had little to do with the project anyway. I'm aware some artists have done that- performed an album in it's entirety and and released it as a novelty. It's feasible concept in itself.

I'm glad the Tusk deluxe was focused only on that particular period of time. The assembled live discs fit the bill. That's enough for me! The entire box is a bit redundant as it is.

PenguinHead 12-10-2015 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by martyk (Post 1176375)
The biggest missed opportunity IMO is the live set. While the tracks they've included are great stuff, I wish the band had done a one-off show on the recent tour dedicated to this project. A live performance of the entire album by the current crew would have allowed a look at how the songs have evolved over time in live performance - a critical piece of this puzzle, IMO.

Great idea! Bad timing.

They were lock-step with their set list on their world tour; The Tusk deluxe project was of no concern. Even if it was, it would have taken a lot of prep work to pull off. They had little to do with the project anyway. I'm aware some artists have done it - performed an album in it's entirety and and released it as a novelty. It's feasible concept unto itself, but not within this particular re-release.

I'm glad the Tusk deluxe was solely focused on that particular period of time. The assembled live discs fit the bill. That's enough for me! The entire box is a bit redundant as it is.

bsavi4 12-10-2015 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PenguinHead (Post 1176403)
Great idea! Bad timing.

They were lock-step with their set list on their world tour; The Tusk deluxe project was of no concern. Even if it was, it would have taken a lot of prep work to pull off. They had little to do with the project anyway. I'm aware some artists have done it - performed an album in it's entirety and and released it as a novelty. It's feasible concept unto itself, but not within this particular re-release.

I'm glad the Tusk deluxe was solely focused on that particular period of time. The assembled live discs fit the bill. That's enough for me! The entire box is a bit redundant as it is.

I think it would have been neat if they did a few shows where they did the entire album, but it really isn't that feasible given the album's length of 75 mins (which would be longer live). The Zombies currently play new material and the entire Odessey & Oracle album at shows, but the reason they can pull that off is that O&O is just 35 mins in length, so they have plenty of room for new material. Tusk is simply too long for this idea to be reasonable unless the group spent months rehearsing all of the songs and didn't play overly long versions of the classics (Sara, Sisters, Tusk) like they currently do live. That's a lot to ask of a band that loves to over-extend and meander through live versions of many of their songs.

WatchChain 12-10-2015 09:43 PM

This version of "The Chain" from 1980 KICKS AS*........I've fallen in love with this song again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpbbbjw19yE

PenguinHead 12-11-2015 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bsavi4 (Post 1176435)
The Zombies currently play new material and the entire Odessey & Oracle album at shows, but the reason they can pull that off is that O&O is just 35 mins in length, so they have plenty of room for new material.

I'm a big fan of the Zombies! The Odessey & Oracle album is sort of their "Rumours" album in terms of status.

Jondalar 12-12-2015 03:38 AM

https://instagram.com/p/_LCkRzn6j5/

Does anyone have this photo? Love it.


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