She likes the results of 24K gold.

Could it be that she doesn't have any new songs she feels would lend themselves to the Mac treatment, and plans to try to write while on tour? Just asking -- I don't know what her previous songwriting habits have been.

Woah now...do we REALLY know whether this is true or not? Let's not jump to conclusions.

Can you cite your source, please? Was this YOU who asked him? How EXACTLY did the question and response turn out?

There's a HUGE set of variables that aren't even being addressed or questioned. Let's not freak out, people.

I think you just might have a point here, maybe she doesn't have any new stuff worth recording.

They should just go ahead and put out the album at the end of 2015 without Stevie if she isn't committed. I know that some of them would like to tour on new music, but Lindsey has certainly gone without touring to promote an album in the past (Tango, Go Insane, L & O). He can do it again. I would rather have an album and no tour, than no album.

Michele

I thnk she wants to do Songs from the Vault 2. And she should.

yeah but good lord, how long have these songs moldered in the vault?? suddenly after DECADES and DECADES in the vault, she's in a rush to churn them all out? really? I mean what's putting The Vault Vol. 2 on hold for an extra 6 mos. or a year going to hurt at this point? Give FM a few months FFS and then do Vault2. They are NOT mutually exclusive.:confused:

since this is just more mass hysteria from the interweb ....again here's a solution all 3 do a solo cd under the bands name

OR, they can release it without Stevie and play new songs on tour. She doesn't have to be up on stage for every song.

ugh. I know you're just making a joke, but seriously, that move was a total disaster for KISS. They over shipped a boatload of albums to make headlines, and none of them sold all that well, not even Ace Frehley's,and he was the only one with a hit. They remaindered those albums for YEARS. In fact the industry changed rules for certifying albums gold/platinum after that to wait a longer time and only certify based on albums SOLD not albums shipped.
That said, it didn't solve any of the personnel problems in the band. It just pits members even more against each other in a very public way.

Great point! At their ages, they don't have the luxury of time; all of their futures have a limit point. If Stevie's massive ego stalls the project, there will be a lot of resentment directed at her. I can't imagine what the **** her issue is. She certainly takes no umbrage touring with the band.

This is very perplexing. Lindsey and Christine seem very invigorated by the studio work their doing. Stevie seem invigorated by Christine's return to the band. It's reasonable to think she would want to collaborate and contribute on album that could potentially be the band's last stand.

Should attendees of Fleetwood Mac's concerts hold up banners and signs to persuade her to pull her big head out of her old ass, reminding her to play nice with the people who are responsible for her career, her fame and her wealth?

Stevie has always sounded more reluctant than the others about a new album, maybe she is worried about how it might sell as some are saying?

My guess is that it's either Lindsey producing or her solo career that are the sticking points. I do hope she changes her mind, would hate to think Tango was the last studio album featuring these five that we'll ever get to hear:(

That's brilliant!:]:]

It's the perfect solution for their issues. Separate but together.

ITA. Dave is acceptable for Stevie but not FM.
I don't even think Lindsey should produce it, though I think Lindsey does a better job on Stevie's songs than Dave does.

I really don't think they (or Stevie specifically) care about a record. they're all about the tour. that's where there $$ comes from.

Though I have to wonder if Stevie even has anything to bring to the table, songwise. Like, what if she has nothing and just doesn't want to compete with Chris :shocked:

Why would you hope she is holding out for more money? As you said, they all have plenty of money for the rest of their lives, so that would seem to be the silliest of reasons. I would much rather have it be over the production and artistic direction of her own songs.

If this is something Lindsey would actually do, Stevie's reluctance to record would be more than understandable.

I wonder how that would have any relevance. If they happen to make a good album and it doesn't bust up the charts, so what? It's not going to end their careers or tarnish their longstanding reputation. Their futures won't be thrust into peril.

In talking about her new album, Stevie has mentioned, in some fashion, that making good music is more of a priority than sales numbers. So why would that be an issue for her in context of Fleetwood Mac?

I definitely think Lindsey and Christine want a new album made, we know they've been in the studio and they sounded quite enthusiastic about the new songs. Also Lindsey has mentioned a few times at the concerts about there being more to come from them.

I may be wrong but I also don't think Christine re-joined just to tour again, I do think she expected them to record some new music, but who knows:shrug:

Sorry, just saw this after my last post!

I'm only going by what she's said in recent years about how the music industry has changed and how it is difficult to sell albums compared to the past. Wasn't she meant to be disappointed with the sales for her last album too? It did seem to bother her. If FM sold poorly maybe she'd feel it was a double blow.

I couldn't care less how it sells personally, just give us new music!

She definitely wants to do more new music, which is why everybody but Stevie was at the Village earlier this year.

You Can't Fix This?

for FM ... def Everybody Finds Out :D

It would be such a shame if Stevie didn't contribute if the others are keen to do so.

Let's hope Christine can twist her arm (so to speak;)).

If this tidbit of information is true, it could lead to tensions and drama on stage like the old days. Watch put for that flying guitar, Stevie!!! :eek::eek::eek:

it would be a bigger shame if this is all interweb bull 5h!t like the set list , the track listing for 24 karat ....

Yeah or it could be drama Queen Mick trying to stir things up!:lol:

Maybe I'm giving this band too much credit, but why in the world would Christine and Lindsey go into the studio and work on a new album if Stevie were that reluctant? Wouldn't it be a political mindfield to go into the studio to start a new album knowing that not all members are on board? I have a hard time believing that they would do that if Stevie said she was reluctant...at all. Stevie would be furious! I also don't think Lindsey would make the speech every night about this reunion bringing "many fruits" if it didn't involve something other than a cash grab tour.

It sounds like there were various conference calls with the band as Christine has mentioned - you would think (and I hope) that a long term plan was discussed and it wasn't just "welcome back Chris, now how many times can we tour the states now that you're back"

It would be a really crappy thing to welcome somebody back into the band who obviously wants to not only perform live again, but make new music...to welcome them back with the understanding there would not only be touring, but new music as well and then backpeddle on the album.

Personally, if they truely can't get on the same page regarding a new album and Christine's presence won't help the situation...I feel bad for Christine because that has to be momentously discouraging. If relationships are that strained in the band, why bring Christine back into that kind of environment?

I'm remembering why I loved the Stevie Nicks of 1996-1998. She was humble and had some humility as she was just coming out of a rough patch. She was humble and gracious. Now I feel like her ego is WAY out of control. She's only gracious when it benefits her.

^ That's exactly what the boys did last year with the EP though. They went in and recorded all this stuff and then persuaded Stevie to take part in the project after the fact.

I don't want to wade in too deeply here, because this is all conjecture and hearsay at this point, and who knows what will happen once the tour wraps up mid next year. But what has Stevie actually said that shows any lack of humility or graciousness over the past few years? :sorry:

That probably came across the wrong way. Gracious to the fans, yes. We've been really luck with all of the new music that has come out in just the past couple of years.

I meant more in terms of politically within the band itself. Christine comes back after 16 years and you still want to be cold about a new album (IF that is even true) I don't know, I would be overjoyed to have Chris back and I would realize what an amazing opportunity this is for the entire band, instead of just being hung up about myself and the issues I have about making the album.

The whole thing is confusing so we can't make any assumptions, it could all be BS. Predicting this band is like the weather, good luck.

Exactly!! Lots of Stevie hate going on based on pure an alleged conversation. Jesus tits!! The woman has been fiercely loyal to the Mac since 75. Give her a break. She's earned the right to so what she pleases

Let's remember that in 2012 Mick was saying that he thought Fleetwood Mac would never, ever tour again. Then Stevie rushed out to Loose Women in June or July 2012 to reveal that the band would be touring again, 6 months before they officially announced the dates.

Mick should do an interview with Rolling Stone and say that Stevie Nicks is preventing them from releasing new material. Putting public pressure on her seems to work.

I wonder how that would have any relevance. If they happen to make a good album and it doesn't bust up the charts, so what? It's not going to end their careers or tarnish their longstanding reputation. Their futures won't be thrust into peril.

In talking about her new album, Stevie has mentioned, in some fashion, that making good music is more of a priority than sales numbers. So why would that be an issue for her in context of Fleetwood Mac? Any album released is a crap shoot. She had no reluctance to release her new album not long after her disappointment in the commercial performance of her of previous album. Authentic artists' motivation to create shouldn't be predicated solely on commercial projections.

Given the amount of vault songs she has, I'm surprised that she hasn't passed them over to Lindsey to at least work on some arrangements. All our speculation is based on nothing but hearsay. Who the hell knows what Stevie's thinking. I wish some interviewer would indirectly ask her "So, what kind of songs are you planning on bringing to the new Fleetwood Mac album? Songs from your vault? New songs? What is it like working in the studio with Christine again? For Fleetwood Mac fans this is the dream we've been waiting for. Can't wait to hear it!"

By the same token, the four other band members have earned the right to do as they please without involving Stevie. If it's a choice between an album by Mick, John, Christine and Lindsey or no Fleetwood Mac album at all, which seems to be the case, I think most fans would choose the Stevie-less album over nothing.

Ha! Definitely with you on this one! :thumbsup:

I do get the sense that, as time moves on, Stevie has less and less patience for whatever bothers her about the band's dynamics. But who actually knows what goes on behind closed doors.

For me, I'm just happy that Stevie seems genuinely happy, and consistently so.

As to the band recording, I'd love a new Mac album. But after getting Christine back with them on tour and one of Stevie's best studio albums ever, both in the same year, I can't be too greedy. :D

I think Lindsey would like You May be the One.

Stevie's not preventing them from doing anything. They are more than welcome to put out a record without her.

YESSS!!! I would love a Bucky/McVie album!!!!

Unfortunately, I doubt it will ever happen. Old what's her name has become the face of FM. Danged old cow....:lol:

Which they certainly could do, if they wanted to!

Yes, they are welcome to do so, but come on, they are never going to do it. Stevie would feel insulted and people would wonder why the hell she is touring with them when she's not on the new record.

What would Stevie do when it comes time to perform the new material in concert? Is she supposed to leave the stage for all 6 new songs, or would she be expected just to wander around aimlessly, shaking her tambourine but not really contributing anything to the performance?

But what tour would they play it on? I don't think they can work new songs into this tour starting in January. That boat looks like it has passed. There's not enough time off between the end of this leg and the start of the 28 dates they just announced. Once this tour ends, no way will they be able to do another tour in 2016.

I can only hope the four Macsters will complete the album after this tour, without hopes of touring on it at all. Of course, they can promote it in interviews though.

Michele