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Jondalar 04-28-2014 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueLight (Post 1127694)
This is truly fantastic news!! :blob2: I am thrilled beyond words about FM's upcoming tour. But I feared that Christine's unexpected return would sidetrack Stevie from recording any solo work for the foreseeable future. Regardless of whether her solo project gets released this summer, or after the band's tour, we're looking at the possibility of both a SN and FM album within the next 12-18 months. And that's more than I ever would have hoped for.

On a related note, my understanding has been that Stevie has one album remaining on her WB contract. But an anonymous poster on fleetwoodmacnews.com referenced some rumors that she had resigned a new contract, requiring both a new studio album and yet another greatest hits compilation. Regardless, I'm excited to find out what's in the pipeline.

Another greatest hits? You have to be kidding. It's not deserved.

BlueLight 04-28-2014 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar (Post 1127702)
Another greatest hits? You have to be kidding. It's not deserved.

It's hard to see how there's a market for another compilation. If there's any truth to that rumor, my only hope would be that it would include a good number of outtakes/B-sides.

chiliD 04-28-2014 01:42 PM

Maybe this is one of the things that Stevie learned from Rod Stewart while doing those mini-tours with him. How to balance recording solo albums and getting the "home office" band to tour playing songs from your solo album at the same time.

Here's the scenario:

Stevie's recording a SOLO album, BUT, not doing a solo TOUR to back it up...what she does is get Fleetwood Mac to play the songs she wants to promote from the album.

It worked for Rod Stewart for about 4 or 5 years juggling his solo albums & touring with Faces (and Faces performing songs from Rod Stewart's solo albums after they're released). He didn't have to do a solo tour until after Faces finally called it a day (which was only after Ronnie Wood joined the Stones full-time).

So, maybe the new Fleetwood Mac album will be "sans Stevie" as far as songwriting & lead vocals are concerned, but she'll have a concurrent solo album out & performing the "hit potential" songs from it WITH Fleetwood Mac. It'll give Lindsey & Christine more room for their material on the FMac album, too.

I can very well see this as a compromise solution. All she has to do is get Lindsey to buy in...(by getting him to play on a few songs on her solo album...just like Rod got Ronnie Wood to play on most of his solo albums as well as Faces albums; there was already a "connection" with the material)...I think Mick will do anything to keep her "happy" & in the band. Seems that Christine may have done some keyboard parts on Stevie's songs while in Nashville, as well. So, Christine will have some vested interest in playing the songs live, too.

BLY 04-28-2014 01:53 PM

There is no way a Fleetwood Mac album will be released without Stevie Nicks.

elle 04-28-2014 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 1127724)
Maybe this is one of the things that Stevie learned from Rod Stewart while doing those mini-tours with him. How to balance recording solo albums and getting the "home office" band to tour playing songs from your solo album at the same time.

i love your idea. although i would be shocked if all the people we are talking about here are that smart. :p

but who knows? looking historically now, it seems Stevie has pulled the wool - or chiffon as the case may be ;) - over the boys in FM several times already, so maybe she's actually much smarter than she pretends to be. if it hadn't before, it suddenly becomes very clear now that while she pays lip service to FM her solo career has been her priority for many years now, and she's been highly successful in putting FM projects off for years in a row under one or another excuse... while keeping FM on the back burner and pulling them out if/when needed.

chiliD 04-28-2014 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BLY (Post 1127726)
There is no way a Fleetwood Mac album will be released without Stevie Nicks.

Fleetwood Mac Albums without Stevie Nicks:

Dog & Dustbin
Mr Wonderful
Pious Bird Of Good Omen
English Rose
Then Play On
Blues Jam At Chess
Live At The Boston Tea Party Vol 1 - 3
Kiln House
Future Games
Bare Trees
Penguin
Mystery To Me
Heroes Are Hard To Find
Tango In The Night (for all intents)
Time

Fleetwood Mac Albums WITH Stevie Nicks:

Fleetwood Mac
Rumours
Tusk
Live
Mirage
Tango In The Night
Behind The Mask
The Dance
Live In Boston
Say You Will

History kind of disproves your point. :shrug:

BLY 04-28-2014 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 1127734)
Fleetwood Mac Albums without Stevie Nicks:

Dog & Dustbin
Mr Wonderful
Pious Bird Of Good Omen
English Rose
Then Play On
Blues Jam At Chess
Live At The Boston Tea Party Vol 1 - 3
Kiln House
Future Games
Bare Trees
Penguin
Mystery To Me
Heroes Are Hard To Find
Tango In The Night (for all intents)
Time

Fleetwood Mac Albums WITH Stevie Nicks:

Fleetwood Mac
Rumours
Tusk
Live
Mirage
Tango In The Night
Behind The Mask
The Dance
Live In Boston
Say You Will

History kind of disproves your point. :shrug:


No. My point is moving Forward Fleetwood Mac will not record
an album without Stevie Nicks.

BlueLight 04-28-2014 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by BLY (Post 1127735)
No. My point is moving Forward Fleetwood Mac will not record
an album without Stevie Nicks.

Agreed. Lindsey himself explicitly said so as recently as last year. I truly doubt that Christine's return (which perhaps was even in the works by then), changes that fact.

elle 04-28-2014 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BLY (Post 1127735)
No. My point is moving Forward Fleetwood Mac will not record
an album without Stevie Nicks.

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Originally Posted by BlueLight (Post 1127737)
Agreed. Lindsey himself explicitly said so as recently as last year. I truly doubt that Christine's return (which perhaps was even in the works by then), changes that fact.

i think there's a [probably slight] chance you all are wrong.

when i asked Mick last year, before Christine's return, whether they would consider releasing an album with just Christine if Stevie is not interested, while still touring with Stevie if Christine is not interested, he said, yes, sure. all options are on the table. so i think that they may be even more on the table now when Christine is really back, full time.

WildHearted 04-28-2014 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 1127724)
Maybe this is one of the things that Stevie learned from Rod Stewart while doing those mini-tours with him. How to balance recording solo albums and getting the "home office" band to tour playing songs from your solo album at the same time.

Here's the scenario:

Stevie's recording a SOLO album, BUT, not doing a solo TOUR to back it up...what she does is get Fleetwood Mac to play the songs she wants to promote from the album.

It worked for Rod Stewart for about 4 or 5 years juggling his solo albums & touring with Faces (and Faces performing songs from Rod Stewart's solo albums after they're released). He didn't have to do a solo tour until after Faces finally called it a day (which was only after Ronnie Wood joined the Stones full-time).

So, maybe the new Fleetwood Mac album will be "sans Stevie" as far as songwriting & lead vocals are concerned, but she'll have a concurrent solo album out & performing the "hit potential" songs from it WITH Fleetwood Mac. It'll give Lindsey & Christine more room for their material on the FMac album, too.

I can very well see this as a compromise solution. All she has to do is get Lindsey to buy in...(by getting him to play on a few songs on her solo album...just like Rod got Ronnie Wood to play on most of his solo albums as well as Faces albums; there was already a "connection" with the material)...I think Mick will do anything to keep her "happy" & in the band. Seems that Christine may have done some keyboard parts on Stevie's songs while in Nashville, as well. So, Christine will have some vested interest in playing the songs live, too.

This sounds good on paper, but ultimately I don't think anyone would be huge on Stevie coming in and saying, "I don't want to record with y'all, but how about we promote my new music on our tour!" Kind of a slap in the face. The blow would be lessened a bit by the others having had a hand in some of the solo songs, yes, but I still don't see anything like that ever happening. Too many egos and too much politics.

chiliD 04-28-2014 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BLY (Post 1127735)
No. My point is moving Forward Fleetwood Mac will not record
an album without Stevie Nicks.

Their loss. And, another nail in the Fleetwood Mac coffin of creativity.

(with apologies to Lord Tennyson):

Half a league, half a league,
Half a league onward,
All in the valley of Nostalgia
Rode the Five Fireflies.
"Forward, the Fleetwood Mac!
"Charge for the charts!" he said:
Into the valley of Nostalgia
Rode the Five Fireflies.

"Forward, the Fleetwood Mac!"
Was there a man dismay'd?
Not tho' the drummer knew
Someone had blunder'd:
Theirs not to make reply,
Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die:
Into the valley of Nostalgia
Rode the Five Fireflies.

Crowd to left of them,
Jokers to the right,
Here I am, stuck in the middle with you
Rock'd and thunder'd;
(Only happens when it is raining),
Boldly they rode and well,
Into the jaws of Nostalgia,
Into the mouth of Hell
Rode the Five Fireflies.

Flash'd all their guitars bare,
Flash'd as they spun'd in air,
Slayed the audience with guitars there,
Charging an audience, while
All the world wonder'd:
Plunged in the marijuana-smoke
Right thro' the line they broke;
From Tusk onward
Reel'd from the guitar stroke
Shatter'd and sunder'd.
Then they rode back, but not
Not the Five Fireflies.

When can their glory fade?
O the wild tours they made!
All the world wondered.
Honor the albums they made,
Honor the Fleetwood Mac,
Beyond & before the Five Fireflies.

elle 04-28-2014 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1127743)
This sounds good on paper, but ultimately I don't think anyone would be huge on Stevie coming in and saying, "I don't want to record with y'all, but how about we promote my new music on our tour!" Kind of a slap in the face. The blow would be lessened a bit by the others having had a hand in some of the solo songs, yes, but I still don't see anything like that ever happening. Too many egos and too much politics.

she keeps slapping them in the face for years, and they keep taking it. so history seems to show they'd take it again. actually they seem to be taking it as we speak. if i were her, i'd see no reason not to keep doing it, too!

Macfanforever 04-28-2014 04:12 PM

I dont know but I think she's doing more in Nashville that we know of.

I'm thinking positive for a change,:shocked:

Again I have to give her credit for what she is doing at her age when most people are about to retire or retired in Florida or where ever or working part time at Walmart,Home Depot or for her sake as a waitress at Ruby Tuesdays.

And God bless her that she can still do what she loves and enjoy singing to us fans.

I just let her do what her sweet little wildheart wants to do.

I remember all the fuss about the IYD DVD. We got it. Some of us got it signed.I just sit back and let all fall together.

I know if Dave is involve .He probably will be filming the action there what ever whats going on in Nashville or LA..

BlueLight 04-28-2014 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1127747)
I dont know but I think she's doing more in Nashville that we know of.

I'm thinking positive for a change,:shocked:

* * *

I remember all the fuss about the IYD DVD. We got it. Some of us got it signed.I just sit back and let all fall together.

I know if Dave is involve .He probably will be filming the action there what ever whats going on in Nashville or LA..

I like your optimism! ;)

elle 04-28-2014 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1127747)
And God bless her that she can still do what she loves and enjoy singing to us fans.

I just let her do what her sweet little wildheart wants to do.

i actually agree with you (just to make it clear). i think she should be doing what she wants and loves.

my beef is not with her, my beef is with the rest of the FM. i think they should let her do what she wants to, but if what she's doing does not fit with what they are doing, they should go their own way just like she is.

Macfanforever 04-28-2014 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueLight (Post 1127748)
I like your optimism! ;)

Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by elle (Post 1127749)
i actually agree with you (just to make it clear). i think she should be doing what she wants and loves.

my beef is not with her, my beef is with the rest of the FM. i think they should let her do what she wants to, but if what she's doing does not fit with what they are doing, they should go their own way just like she is.



Yes. At this point I'm not going to get all worked up over whats going on with them.

I wish they lassoed Chris in the band couple years ago after Stevie finish her IYD tour and Lindsey s tour and they could work their schedules to get something done and have Chris tour last year in the states..

BlueDenimLamp 04-28-2014 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1127749)
i actually agree with you (just to make it clear). i think she should be doing what she wants and loves.

my beef is not with her, my beef is with the rest of the FM. i think they should let her do what she wants to, but if what she's doing does not fit with what they are doing, they should go their own way just like she is.

http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4f559ee0.png

http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0646596f.png

I wonder if Mick is over compensating for a lack of something...:nod:

Bandon 04-28-2014 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Stew (Post 1127440)
I'm thrilled by this news! A new Stevie solo album one year and a new Mac album the next... that hasn't happened for the past 25 years.

This is win/win. The more music, the better.

I agree...this hasn't happened in like the past 25 years. It's like the old days. However, the cycle...timing is off, which makes everything unpredictable. There are so many unknown factors. It's great Stevie is recording an album. It will be interesting to see when her new music vs. FMs new music is released. Stevie always gets so much more airplay and sales as a member of FM than solo (past several years), so I'm hoping her solo release isn't lost in the FM touring/album release. On one hand, I love the fact that we are going to get all this new music, but I also want to hear them on the radio again. Not hoping for top 40, just airplay. :D

BlueDenimLamp 04-28-2014 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bandon (Post 1127764)
I agree...this hasn't happened in like the past 25 years. It's like the old days. However, the cycle...timing is off, which makes everything unpredictable. There are so many unknown factors. It's great Stevie is recording an album. It will be interesting to see when her new music vs. FMs new music is released. Stevie always gets so much more airplay and sales as a member of FM than solo (past several years), so
I'm hoping her solo release isn't lost in the FM touring/album release. On one hand, I love the fact that we are going to get all this new music, but I also want to hear them on the radio again. Not hoping for top 40, just airplay. :D

This is exactly what they are talking about in the "Rumours" section...I don't think Stevie will put a new album out and then go on the road with FM instead of touring with her new music...

BlueLight 04-28-2014 07:20 PM

Here's a link to the interview where Stevie discusses "two different tours next year" (near the 1:00 mark), which seems to suggest that Stevie is planning a separate solo tour at some point in the near future.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG-ymkK2ko0

I guess it's possible that all of this has been planned all along, with a quick release of a solo project and quick promotional tour, followed by a larger tour with FM. But with FM rehearsals starting at the end of the summer, it's hard to see how she could pull that off. My bet is that she does a quick tour this summer unrelated to any album before heading into rehearsals, and holds her solo album for next year.

UnwindedDreams 04-28-2014 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1127743)
This sounds good on paper, but ultimately I don't think anyone would be huge on Stevie coming in and saying, "I don't want to record with y'all, but how about we promote my new music on our tour!" Kind of a slap in the face. The blow would be lessened a bit by the others having had a hand in some of the solo songs, yes, but I still don't see anything like that ever happening. Too many egos and too much politics.

I think you're right. Stevie said in a December 2012 interview, FM was going to do Soldier's Angel during the 2013 Tour but they didn't. I asked Mick why not at the May 2013 Vegas Meet and Greet and he said the song had a lot of weight to it and Stevie would have had to tell the story of it every night so they decided it should stay in her show.
Also, I think the 2014 songlist will be 28 songs at the most so I don't see room for a new Stevie song when we know they are going to play the 15 hits plus 5 Christine hits and then a mix of album tracks and I guess new Lindsey/Chris songs.
Finally, Stevie said at the Grammys in January she was excited for 2 tours 'next year.' I guess she'll tour her CD in April-May 2015 and tour Europe with FM June 2015

elle 04-28-2014 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1127773)
Finally, Stevie said at the Grammys in January she was excited for 2 tours 'next year.' I guess she'll tour her CD in April-May 2015 and tour Europe with FM June 2015

wasn't she hinting she'd like one of those 2 tours to be with Grohl?

BlueDenimLamp 04-28-2014 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1127783)
wasn't she hinting she'd like one of those 2 tours to be with Grohl?

Yes I think one of the tours she was hinting at was the grunge thing with Dave Grohl...

Macfanforever 04-28-2014 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1127787)
Yes I think one of the tours she was hinting at was the grunge thing with Dave Grohl...

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1127783)
wasn't she hinting she'd like one of those 2 tours to be with Grohl?

Good grief . I dont like hearing that. Noise band .Earplug time.LOL.........

Tour with Lady A anytime.

BlueLight 04-28-2014 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1127783)
wasn't she hinting she'd like one of those 2 tours to be with Grohl?

I somehow missed that - do you know when she said that?

BlueDenimLamp 04-28-2014 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1127789)
Good grief . I dont like hearing that. Noise band .Earplug time. LOL.....

I would much rather she "Rock Out" than work with any of the popular manufactured corporate formula artists that think they know how to play country music...

BlueDenimLamp 04-28-2014 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueLight (Post 1127790)
I somehow missed that - do you know when she said that?

A couple of months ago she said she would like to go with Dave Grohl one of his grunge tours...Stevie really liked working with him on the "Sound City" thing...

http://i1361.photobucket.com/albums/...psce5175f4.jpg

Macfanforever 04-28-2014 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1127791)
I would much rather she "Rock Out" than work with any of the popular manufactured corporate formula artists that think they know how to play country music...

I have to agree with you there like I said about todays country artists.They are not real country.Phony boloney.Stevie would do great with Dolly,Emmylou,George Strait or Vince Gill,Alan Jackson .


I would love to hear her do a duet with Vince Gill.

But I do like Lady A better then some of those other newcomers.

What ever is the best for her.I will be there to support her.

I like Dave as a person but I'm not into his music.He is a great talker in the interviews.

BlueDenimLamp 04-28-2014 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1127798)
I have to agree with you there like I said about todays country artists.They are not real country.Phony boloney.Stevie would do great with Dolly,Emmylou,George Strait or Vince Gill,Alan Jackson .


I would love to hear her do a duet with Vince Gill.

But I do like Lady A better then some of those other newcomers.

What ever is the best for her.I will be there to support her.

I like Dave as a person but I'm not into his music.He is a great talker in the interviews.

If only Stevie and Waylon had re-recorded some of Stevie's songs together...

I think Dave Grohl's sound would be toned down quite a bit if he were to be on one of her songs...

BlueLight 04-28-2014 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1127794)
A couple of months ago she said she would like to go with Dave Grohl one of his grunge tours...Stevie really liked working with him on the "Sound City" thing...

I remember that interview, but never heard any confirmation that it was anything other than Stevie's random musings. If they are in fact touring together, it seems odd that Dave Grohl was on the Tonight Show the same night as Stevie, but that they didn't perform together. :shrug:

Macfanforever 04-28-2014 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueLight (Post 1127800)
I remember that interview, but never heard any confirmation that it was anything other than Stevie's random musings. If they are in fact touring together, it seems odd that Dave Grohl was on the Tonight Show the same night as Stevie, but that they didn't perform together. :shrug:

Thank goodness he didn't.:shocked:.LOL.......

michelej1 04-29-2014 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams (Post 1127773)
I think you're right. Stevie said in a December 2012 interview, FM was going to do Soldier's Angel during the 2013 Tour but they didn't. I asked Mick why not at the May 2013 Vegas Meet and Greet and he said the song had a lot of weight to it and Stevie would have had to tell the story of it every night so they decided it should stay in her show.

That's a silly answer from Mick. There's no requirement that you have to explain a song. If people know the background great. If they don't, either they can enjoy the song without knowing what it's about or not. No big deal.

I know when Lindsey did Gift of Screws in concert, there were so many people asking what it meant in email and such. Even when I explained it, they didn't half believe me. I guess they think associating Lindsey and a rock song with Emily Dickinson or perfume pressing must be some kind of hoax. But there's no reason to explain.

When you do a Storytellers type tour, that prologue is quite welcome and I can totally see her discussing Soldier's Angel in her solo concert, but for most concerts I don't think you should introduce to many of the songs.

Michele

louielouie2000 04-29-2014 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1127811)
There's no requirement that you have to explain a song.

I don't think you should introduce too many of the songs.

I agree that artists shouldn't introduce too many of their songs, lest it become less of a rock concert & more of a show & tell session.

However, Soldier's Angel is different. Given today's political climate, I don't think Soldier's Angel could be performed sans explanation without ruffling some feathers. People wouldn't know what it's about, and Fox News would probably latch on to the narcissism of Stevie proclaiming herself to be a soldier's angel and we'd have a new Dixie Chicks type situation on our hands. Then Toby Keith would get Mick, Christine, and John deported, and we'd never even hear Fleetwood Mac on the radio again. :laugh:

UnwindedDreams 04-29-2014 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1127783)
wasn't she hinting she'd like one of those 2 tours to be with Grohl?

She said she hoped she could do a short tour with Grohl after what she had to do in 2014 so I don't think the 2nd tour in 2014 or 15 is a Grohl tour. If she tours solo, I think she should tour in Fall 2015. I think the focus should be on FM in 2014

editme2 04-29-2014 10:06 AM

I love that Stevie is perhaps recording a new album, and I hope we get to hear it sooner rather than later. I do worry, though, about her voice and physical well-being. I just hope she gives herself enough time to take a little break and rest her voice before hitting the road for what I'm sure will be a long trek with Fleetwood Mac.

Jondalar 04-29-2014 11:20 AM

This whole thing reminds of The Wild Heart and Mirage time.

elle 04-29-2014 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar (Post 1127841)
This whole thing reminds of The Wild Heart and Mirage time.

and also TISL and SYW.

history repeats itself.

BlueDenimLamp 04-29-2014 11:41 AM

Since this sounds like it is indeed a solo record that Stevie is working on with Dave Stewart it's very surprising that Dave is not tweeting information about the project like he did with "IYD"...In fact there seems to be complete secrecy surrounding what is taking place at Blackbird...We know that people Stevie knows have been at Blackbird but they only mention being at the studio or seeing Dave...Dave has been made aware of the fact that Mick "spilled the beans" about Nashville and Stevie and her people must know that it's not a secret that the fans have a basic knowledge of what's taking place so why are they being so secretive???

BlueDenimLamp 04-29-2014 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar (Post 1127841)
This whole thing reminds of The Wild Heart and Mirage time.

Bella Donna, Mirage & Wild Heart... 3 records in three years ...We can only hope this happens again...

michelej1 04-29-2014 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1127824)

However, Soldier's Angel is different. Given today's political climate, I don't think Soldier's Angel could be performed sans explanation without ruffling some feathers.

I don't see how explaining the song would make it more palatable to anyone wanting to take political offense. And it doesn't make it less narcissistic either. In fact, giving it an intro may make it sound like it's more about herself than if she just started singing. Regarding content and context, the words of the song are still what they are, even if Stevie talks about Walter Reed first.

Frankly, I think people read the song ambiguously. To me, I hear condemnation, 'about what is righteous' and a reflection on hypocrisy that kills. For me the "Mmmmm" is a judgment, but I don't think everyone hears that.

I think that people on both sides can feel the song is about what they believe, sans introduction. And those who aren't listening with partisan ears will just think that it's in support of the troops, which both sides can get behind.

Michele


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