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michelej1 04-07-2013 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SpyNote (Post 1086592)
It's the version that hardcore fans like to associate. Like Stevie, we live in our own bubble. Ledgies know far more about the band than the average fan or the band members themselves. Ledgies spend time researching on the computer. Most of the band, notably Stevie, do not use computers or spend time reviewing their own history. The specific dates and details aren't important. They just wing it.

I know. It's like real life, because it IS their real life. I can give you exact years for milestones like births, deaths, anniversaries, a move, or a new job. But that's about it. If you asked me when I stopped working with Frank, even though I remember everything, the goodbye party, where it was held, even what I wore, I probably would not give you an accurate YEAR for that event.

Of course, since Stevie's life takes place in a public forum, she could easily look it up, but why would she even care? It's good enough for her if we remember SOTM and want it. And if I was alone with her and could say, "hey lady, remember how Lindsey rested his head on your back that time?" and I could see by a twinkle in her eye that she had some vague inkling of what I was talking about, that would be good enough for me. :laugh:

Michele

elle 04-07-2013 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1086580)
I'm hearing a trend here (if two cities can be a trend.. it is still early)... but....it is starting to sound like the show is toned way down this time.. The subdued Stevie aspect doesn't surprise me, but hearing that Lindsey's performance (muted or removed solos and the like) has been toned way down *is* surprising. What do we think is going on with this? What was the decision process for this tour??

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Originally Posted by Regina (Post 1086595)
Nothing is toned down--IMO. If they ' ve made slight adjustments here and there for range issues...that 's about it. Everyone was completely on.

i haven't seen their previous tours and shows but this show is definitely NOT toned down. it's all "up" and everybody on the stage seems to be happy and celebrating to be there. :thumbsup:

for chiffs, Stevie seemed much more relaxed and happier the second show than the first (not that i watched her much but even i noticed... :D).

EDIT: that said, yeah Lindsey is not jazzing up various guitar parts as of yet, like he did during European etc legs of UL, especially on SN's songs. i'm hoping that's b/c tour is just starting and everybody is trying to make sure everybody else is comfortable on stage?

AliceLover 04-07-2013 06:51 PM

In an article released before the tour started she said something to the effect, "maybe we'll do sisters of the moon, we haven't done that since the 80s." I'm sure of it. Also, who cares. She's well aware of the Mirage performance, fans ask her about it all the time...even Jim Ladd has recently. She has even acknowledged that performance recently, can't remember if it was a fan or an article.

She's aware.

britt0308 04-07-2013 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1086495)
It's time to get our Viv Fix on the Nicks Fix. I love your typo. It made me giggle.

haha oh gosh, i was in a rush to leave for the IYD doc this afternoon. but let's pass this off as my own innovation..Viv Fix is now a *thing*!!! ;)

britt0308 04-07-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1086539)
I'm sure Stevie remembers the performance, she just doesn't remember what year it was. She's way into her clothes. I bet if you described what she was WEARING for that video she could tell you every little thing about the SOTM performance from that Mirage tour. It's just years blend together.

Michele

Good points PenguinHead and Michele..
Not only are years irrelevant to try to bring up..but the clothes have a more memorable place in their (Stevie's) mind. Gotta love em'. That's why we're all here right?!

WildHearted 04-07-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by britt0308 (Post 1086649)
Good points PenguinHead and Michele..
Not only are years irrelevant to try to bring up..but the clothes have a more memorable place in their (Stevie's) mind. Gotta love em'. That's why we're all here right?!

Just ask Stevie about the progression of Lindsey's hair and I'm sure her memory will fail no longer.

CADreaming 04-07-2013 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SpyNote (Post 1086592)
It's the version that hardcore fans like to associate. Like Stevie, we live in our own bubble. Ledgies know far more about the band than the average fan or the band members themselves. Ledgies spend time researching on the computer. Most of the band, notably Stevie, do not use computers or spend time reviewing their own history. The specific dates and details aren't important. They just wing it.

True - but she claims she found two old demos on YouTube which lead to recording them recently. ;)



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Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1086651)
Just ask Stevie about the progression of Lindsey's hair and I'm sure her memory will fail no longer.

:laugh:

I've always been a stickler for dates. Besides, Stevie seems to group it all together, which is understandable when you live out of a suitcase. But, let's be honest, the last 30 years didn't happen in the late '70's. That being said, it doesn't matter to me if she wants to believe they didn't perform SOTM in the 80's. I'll play.

michelej1 04-07-2013 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 1086664)

I've always been a stickler for dates.

Stevie herself is a stickler for dates and numbers. She loves to give them, but she's usually wrong. And I don't know why she likes to say it so much. I'd be content to generalize, but she's always going, "Oh yes, we were there for EIGHT days from 3:00 p.m. to 12:56 a.m." I'm not sure why she likes to be so specific like that, but it's highly amusing.

Michele

CADreaming 04-07-2013 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1086669)
Stevie herself is a stickler for dates and numbers. She loves to give them, but she's usually wrong. And I don't know why she likes to say it so much. I'd be content to generalize, but she's always going, "Oh yes, we were there for EIGHT days from 3:00 p.m. to 12:56 a.m." I'm not sure why she likes to be so specific like that, but it's highly amusing.

Michele

Hahaha! You're right! I love that nonsense. :D

TrueFaith77 04-08-2013 05:33 AM

The Sad Angel and Without You from PA that I saw posted on Facebook were just marvelous!

denny23220 04-08-2013 09:36 AM

More videos
http://www.youtube.com/user/denny23220?feature=mhee

NOMAD2 04-08-2013 11:11 AM

Thanks
 
You guys are awesome with the videos. It's makes the pain of not making it to Philly just a little less painful. Could have had 19th row aisle hours before show.

NOMAD2 04-08-2013 11:15 AM

Sotm
 
As far as toning down on SOTM & other songs well ..SOTM Always one of my favorites. Yeah it lacks the energy ( like everything else) of 30 + years ago BUT, They STILL do it BETTER than anyone else .
If any of us lived the life they did a year or two off on facts would be the least of our problems.
What does kill me with some older artist is no one working these tours has the intelligence or guts to remind these famous iconic artist on fact checks. It would be so easy. Paul McCartney is another prime example.

HejiraNYC 04-08-2013 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by NOMAD2 (Post 1086746)
As far as toning down on SOTM & other songs well ..SOTM Always one of my favorites. Yeah it lacks the energy ( like everything else) of 30 + years ago BUT, They STILL do it BETTER than anyone else .
If any of us lived the life they did a year or two off on facts would be the least of our problems.
What does kill me with some older artist is no one working these tours has the intelligence or guts to remind these famous iconic artist on fact checks. It would be so easy. Paul McCartney is another prime example.

I think people need to take a big fat chill pill about these dates. Does anyone here remember their daily schedules from 1982? Remember, these people do not obsess about their past tours like the rest of us do. It was a job for them. Also, the Mirage tour was only, like, a month in duration. Given all of the tours and ingested substances from the past 30 years, it doesn't surprise me in the least that they have their dates screwed up.

bombaysaffires 04-08-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 1086755)
I think people need to take a big fat chill pill about these dates. Does anyone here remember their daily schedules from 1982? Remember, these people do not obsess about their past tours like the rest of us do. It was a job for them. Also, the Mirage tour was only, like, a month in duration. Given all of the tours and ingested substances from the past 30 years, it doesn't surprise me in the least that they have their dates screwed up.

I agree that they are busy living their lives and not memorizing dates. And I agree this is a tempest in a teapot-- not a big, earth-shattering data point.

That said, I think the issue is more that once Stevie put it out there that they hadn't done the song since the late 70s, it's clear that she became aware that other people (fans, whoever) believe they did the song into 80s. So when Stevie comes out onstage after that and says something like "we believe (gesturing to the whole band) that we last did this song in the late 70s" it seems at least to indicate that she's aware that other people don't agree with that assessment. And how would she be aware of that? To be aware that maybe *other* people don't agree it was the late 70s indicates that *someone* on her team follows fan discussions somewhere (this board or elsewhere) and has made her aware of what the chatter is among her fans, and that people are saying no, it was done in the 80s also. (she seemed aware at one point not long ago, for instance, that fans were on here talking about her red cape, and said onstage at one point that she knew about those discussions). *That* would be the point you would think someone would go hmmm, you think it's this, the fans are all abuzz that it's something else, you know what, let's check it out to see. I wouldn't expect Stevie to be spot-on with her dates prior to that.

Again, none of this is earth-shattering, and in her life it's a "so what" moment.

The Catdancer 04-08-2013 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SpyNote (Post 1086511)
Thanks for embedding the clips, Viv.

tyrant2525 uploaded nearly the entire show, including the band intros. They are compiled here.

That was awesome. Thanks, Daniel.

And thanks to Vivfox.

Seems Stevie is getting into it a little more :)

shackin'up 04-08-2013 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 1086573)
the go your own way end solo is shortened. I don't like that. I miss the go bazerk screaming repetition in the high part before the famous low riff takes over towards the end. Did anybody else notice?

Did anyone else notice this?

vivfox 04-09-2013 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by shackin'up (Post 1086799)
Did anyone else notice this?

I noticed it on several songs. It wouldn't be this way if Chris was still with them.

shackin'up 04-09-2013 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1086941)
I noticed it on several songs. It wouldn't be this way if Chris was still with them.

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