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redtulip 04-01-2013 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Christopher (Post 1084595)
I for one, am not really anticipating any new music at the opening in Columbus. I will be kinda shocked if they do. On top of not releasing any new promotional band shots for this tour -- which I'd imagine would've been also released to promote the new single(s) -- they haven't even been bothered to name this tour outing.:rolleyes: They're too busy semi-promoting a fan made tour poster contest on Fleetwood Mac's FB page, as if that should include & appease us:rolleyes:. And since this is uncharted territory for the band (sticking a couple new songs for download on the Internet) maybe WB, or whoever is supposably releasing these new songs, is unsure how to market them.:rolleyes: I feel as though these songs will go the way of that comprehensive FM re-release with unreleased footage (probably the Rumours deluxe box shelved) that was highly talked about in every press release following the annoucement of FM's 09' "Unleased Tour", that was never released or brought up again once the tour started.:rolleyes: Perhaps they have rehearsed the songs, and they didn't transfer well to the stage as they sounded in Lindsey's home studio?!?:rolleyes:

Or the non-cynical view, WB & FM are soooo impressed with these three new recordings, they have decided to see how things go on the 1st leg of the tour, and possibly record some more songs on the road for a new FM record late summer/early fall.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

This tour is simply a cash grab And I've really had the impression that Stevie is really not interested in recording with FM again, unless Christine is involved, and that is not going to happen! Stevie probably met with the band in November at Lindsey's home -- threw her vocals on Lindsey's 2 tracks & dug out "Without You" to appaise Lindsey and have the start of this FM outing go off with her appearing to be compromising, have things within the Band go off without a hitch & any tensions. But maybe she never intended that these would really be released. Well, maybe "Without You" for a BN re-issue later.:rolleyes:

Also it's entirely possible that Lindsey is stewing that Stevie (solo) has been in the limelight the last 2 months fronting The Sound City players & playing her new song wherever she seemed to have the chance. And then more recently over the last 2-3 weeks (since SXSW) we've seen a lot of Stevie solo press about the North American theatrical release of "In Your Dreams" movie documentary ("the best year of her life".) ;)

Could there be "Trouble in Shangri-la"? Or as I suspect - Stevie is just calling all the shots.:nod:

I don't know why he'd care about any of that.

KenshiMaster16 04-01-2013 07:31 PM

I don't think Lindsey honestly cares. He's always much more enjoyed just throwing work out there especially the past few years. But this band is really starting to tick me off with this new material crap. It's one thing to toot your own horn about it every chance you get and then you release it but to do it and it's been what, months and months now, with no other word other than "we'll play it and see"? What kind of crap is that? An audience didn't take to Running Through The Garden and it got cut, does that mean your general fanbase (who essentially ARE the ones that are gonna purchase this EP and put money into your pockets) didn't like the song? Uhm no, that means the average person who only wanted the golden oldies wasn't bothered. Ugh, for a band that had such huge success in the past and seems to crave more and more of it (because of these "hits" tours over the past 20 years / let's face it, this is a hits tour regardless of "new" material just like the dance) they sure do like pissing away their opportunities at it.

dontlookdown 04-02-2013 04:34 PM

I like that they haven't released the new songs yet.
It's all about anticipation and keeping the fans hungry.
It's not really a big music-release time of year.
I'm not expecting anything until summer, once the tour is a well-oiled machine.

TrueFaith77 04-02-2013 07:43 PM

Was there a poll that predicted that had the option that the new songs would never be released? If there had been, that would be my vote.

PoetofRhiannon 04-02-2013 09:44 PM

I agree that Stevie doesn't seem like she wants to record with FM ever again.

Just came back from her documentary - where she had to bring up the "Thrown Down" thing with Lindsey again.. Come on, even in your 'new' doc?




Also - I totally saw myself in the footage from the Wiltern show on her birthday :]:]

vivfox 04-02-2013 11:11 PM

We'll have all the new songs in just a couple of days after everybody posts their recordings online. We'll be lucky to ever hear the digital download from Fleetweed Mac.

Phil 04-03-2013 12:39 AM

Patience is a virtue...

Macfanforever 04-03-2013 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1084887)
We'll have all the new songs in just a couple of days after everybody posts their recordings online. We'll be lucky to ever hear the digital download from Fleetweed Mac.

Screw Icrap/Amazon digital download..How bout a copy on vinyl 45 RPM will suit me.Cassette singles did suck.

I love hearing snap crackle pop when Stevie's voice is playing on my turn table.

Yes I agree .Youtube will be loaded with concert footage of the new tunes.Thats if they do them.

Matt Lucas 04-03-2013 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by PoetofRhiannon (Post 1084869)
Just came back from her documentary - where she had to bring up the "Thrown Down" thing with Lindsey again.. Come on, even in your 'new' doc?

Umm...sorry to bring up something that's apparently been mentioned more than once before, but what exactly IS "the 'Thrown Down' thing with Lindsey"...?

Like everyone else, I was really looking forward to hearing the new songs. Partly, I was holding out hope that maybe the delay was due to Christine guesting on them, but I know that was the longest of shots.

This is where it becomes tough to be a fan. On one hand, I understand that when a band becomes as big as FM, it becomes a business. But I hope the band members don't ever forget that none of us is here because we admire their business decisions. We're here for the artistry.

matt

Gene 04-03-2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Lucas (Post 1084961)
This is where it becomes tough to be a fan. On one hand, I understand that when a band becomes as big as FM, it becomes a business. But I hope the band members don't ever forget that none of us is here because we admire their business decisions. We're here for the artistry.

matt

Well stated but will fall on FM's deaf ears. (When it comes to artistry over the payout imo)

WildHearted 04-03-2013 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Lucas (Post 1084961)
Umm...sorry to bring up something that's apparently been mentioned more than once before, but what exactly IS "the 'Thrown Down' thing with Lindsey"...?

Like everyone else, I was really looking forward to hearing the new songs. Partly, I was holding out hope that maybe the delay was due to Christine guesting on them, but I know that was the longest of shots.

This is where it becomes tough to be a fan. On one hand, I understand that when a band becomes as big as FM, it becomes a business. But I hope the band members don't ever forget that none of us is here because we admire their business decisions. We're here for the artistry.

matt

In the Destiny Rules doc, there was a scene where Lindsey suggested that Stevie might want to change some of the "yous" to "he" in Thrown Down to make the subject consistent throughout the song. Stevie got upset and infamously declared, "You wouldn't say that to Bob Dylan!"

secondhandchain 04-03-2013 12:28 PM

They start the tour tomm. They have stated in interviews that this is not a greatest hits tour and that they have new songs. There should be information by now as to a release date of the new songs. This is NOT how you treat fans. I think it's disrespectful and total BS. Just my opinion.

The Catdancer 04-03-2013 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by secondhandchain (Post 1084982)
They start the tour tomm. They have stated in interviews that this is not a greatest hits tour and that they have new songs. There should be information by now as to a release date of the new songs. This is NOT how you treat fans. I think it's disrespectful and total BS. Just my opinion.

I know where you're coming from but this is nothing new to the "older" fans. They have always given us different release dates going all the way back to the Tusk album and said things in interviews that didn't work out. After 35 years I'm used to it. Is it fair to the fans? Not really but on the flip side you can't really fault them for that because at the time they said things about new releases and stuff, they were under the impression that the new music was going to be released. I guess the same thing happened this time around.

chiliD 04-03-2013 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by secondhandchain (Post 1084435)
That may be true, but Stevie has said in an interview that it wasn't a greatest hits tour and that they had "product".

Maybe she meant HAIR product. New shampoo? Styling gel? Mousse?

elle 04-03-2013 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 1085057)
Maybe she meant HAIR product. New shampoo? Styling gel? Mousse?

lol.

apparently a new song was soundchecked today. :shrug:

KenshiMaster16 04-04-2013 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1085058)
lol.

apparently a new song was soundchecked today. :shrug:

In my own state of denial, I'm gonna say it was Soldier's Angel. *gun shot goes off now* lol

Well, if that is true, thank God at least we'll hear it live even if we never get a studio version (remembers back to Temporary One).

Matt Lucas 04-04-2013 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1084971)
In the Destiny Rules doc, there was a scene where Lindsey suggested that Stevie might want to change some of the "yous" to "he" in Thrown Down to make the subject consistent throughout the song. Stevie got upset and infamously declared, "You wouldn't say that to Bob Dylan!"

Okay, now I remember it. I've never actually seen the documentary, but I do recall having read about that exchange.

Umm...no offense to Stevie, but she's no Bob Dylan. [Similarly, Bob Dylan is no Stevie Nicks...]

As the co-producer, it was Lindsey's job to make suggestions about songs and arrangements. But I think that's also what you have bandmates for---to offer constructive criticism on each other's tunes. Of course, that means that Lindsey would have to be equally willing to hear the same sort of suggestions regarding his OWN songs...! *wink*

I'm eager to read the reviews of tonight's show.

matt

vivfox 04-04-2013 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1085058)
lol.

apparently a new song was soundchecked today. :shrug:

I have a great idea elle!!!:blob2: After the new songs are performed and the audience cheers, the sound technician should add the simulated audience response into the mix. Then Stevie will really believe the audience loves these songs.:]

FierySequences 04-04-2013 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1085149)
I have a great idea elle!!!:blob2: After the new songs are performed and the audience cheers, the sound technician should add the simulated audience response into the mix. Then Stevie will really believe the audience loves these songs.:]

Brilliant

...now how do we pay off the soundguy/lady?

edit: LOL Mick's "New" auto can be subtitled "The Night I Fooled SN"

billwebster 04-04-2013 11:33 AM

I, too, am hoping they will roll the new songs into a full-length album of new material, and that this is the reason for the delay.

If so, I'm all for it and ready to put the new album on my wish list upon its announcement.

In fact, I'd be happy for a CD because mp3-only releases just don't sound as good.

michelej1 04-05-2013 01:45 AM

[Christmas or Early 2014? Please. The problem with these rumors of an album is that as long as the men of Mac hold out that hope, then I can't believe we're really getting an EP]


By Alan Sculley, Special to The Morning Call
10:08 p.m. EDT, April 4, 2013

http://www.mcall.com/entertainment/m...3.story?page=2


Fleetwood Mac fans don't have to worry about the band phoning things in on its 2013 tour.

The band became arguably the biggest act in rock in the late 1970s after guitarist/singer Lindsey Buckingham and singer Stevie Nicks joined three previous members of Fleetwood Mac — drummer Mick Fleetwood, bassist John McVie and keyboardist/singer Christine McVie (the bassist's former wife) — in 1975 and released three straight blockbuster albums, "Fleetwood Mac" (1975), "Rumours" (1977) and "Tusk" (1979) that established the lineup as the classic edition of Fleetwood Mac.

In a conversation with Fleetwood, it's very clear that today's four core band members (Christine McVie retired in 1998) are very much invested in the band and far from complacent about its live show. In fact, the band spent six full weeks rehearsing for this year's tour, it's first in three years.

"We know the nuts and bolts are all in place and we have confidence in that," Fleetwood says. "But we also have like a garage band-like mentality where we go sh--, we're actually playing down at the local town hall next week. We better be good. And it [that nervousness] doesn't really go away, which is a nice thing. We're not all jaded and so showbizzed out that we're all super slick and go 'Ah, piece of cake.' We're not like that at all. We're all quite sh---ing ourselves."

Fleetwood says the shows will, of course, feature signature hits.

"We know that we have sort of a body of songs that, in truth, if we didn't do them, we'd probably be all lined up and shot," he says. "So we have sort of eight or nine songs that no matter what, we know people are going to want for us to do them, and we are totally cool with doing them. If we walked on the stage and didn't play 'Dreams,' I think people would be shocked. So we don't go there. So what we do is we take the prime songs, 'Go Your Own Way,' 'Dreams,' songs like that, and then build a new show around the fact that we, of course, are going to be doing those songs."

This is Fleetwood Mac's first tour since 2009's "Unleashed" tour. Buckingham and Nicks are busy with solo careers, making Fleetwood Mac part of the picture, but not the entire one. Following the "Unleashed" tour, Buckingham released the studio album, "Seeds We Sow," and Nicks released "In Your Dreams." Both artists toured extensively to support the albums.

The personal history and inter-personal dynamics within Fleetwood Mac also create challenges, and, according to Fleetwood, are another indication of why the four band members are all in when they reunite.

"When we do do it, we work really hard at it and we're committed to it," he says. "We fundamentally have to be happy to be doing this because we're all ex-lovers and all the stuff that is well worn news out there."

As has been well documented, Buckingham and Nicks were a couple (and were recording as Buckingham-Nicks) when they joined Fleetwood Mac. The McVies were also married at that time. But the relationships soon frayed, and the "Rumours" album (a deluxe expanded edition of the CD was released in January) was written in the midst of those breakups. Fleetwood and Nicks later became a couple for a time, while Buckingham later married and started a family.

"[This is] a bunch of people who aren't just connected by the music, but connected by spending huge amounts of time [together], including Lindsey, Stevie and their journey," Fleetwood says. "No, they're not in love and Lindsey has an incredibly wonderful family. But the story they tell as two people is huge. And you know, there I am with Stevie, and me and Stevie had a long-lasting love affair. She's the godmother of my children and it's a trip. It's a trip."

This year's reunion could turn out to be even more eventful than the one in 2009.

On the "Unleashed" tour, Fleetwood Mac essentially played a greatest hits set. But Fleetwood says this tour will blend in three or four new songs from those recorded last year when Buckingham, Fleetwood and McVie got together for a writing and rehearsal session.

"Stevie was on the road, and during that period she lost her mother, who passed," Fleetwood says. "So she was not set up to come and join the party in that few weeks that me and Lindsey and John put some ideas together that Lindsey had."

Nicks has since added her vocals to several of the songs Buckingham, Fleetwood and McVie recorded during the sessions and three of those songs will be available through iTunes shortly. Another song was written by Nicks. It's an unreleased tune that dates back to before Nicks and Buckingham joined Fleetwood Mac, and was recently rediscovered by Nicks and recorded with the band.

"It really tells the story of how Stevie and Lindsey joined Fleetwood Mac, which is when they were known as Buckingham-Nicks," Fleetwood says. "It was an unrecorded song that Stevie actually wrote about Lindsey, and it's a beautiful song ...

"And this was the music that I heard in the studio that spurred me on to make the phone call and ask them to join Fleetwood Mac."

Fleetwood says with any luck these songs will form the basis of a new Fleetwood Mac album that may be recorded later this year and released either ahead of Christmas or in early 2014.

This would be Fleetwood Mac's first collection of new music since 2003's "Say You Will." That was the band's first album without Christine McVie, and the tour that followed the album was not as harmonious as the band members would have wanted.

For Nicks, it was difficult to be the only woman in the band and she sorely missed her close friend, McVie. And before regrouping for the "Unleashed" tour, the band flirted with having Sheryl Crow (a good friend with Nicks) join the band.

Nicks, in various interviews, has said she now is comfortable in the four-person Fleetwood Mac lineup, and Fleetwood notes that the guys try to help create a good environment for Nicks.

"Certainly the guys in the band are very aware of making sure that Stevie feels safe," Fleetwood says. "When she comes back to Fleetwood Mac, she's in a man's world, you know. And two of them are men that she each had relationships with. It's hugely important that she feels safe — and loved. And that's the funny old thing that this band is all about. It's powerful."

Alan Sculley is a freelance writer.

dontlookdown 04-05-2013 03:35 PM

New Fleetwood Mac Songs on iTunes
 
Wondering when we're going to see the new songs available for download?
I'm assuming next Tuesday or the Tuesday after.

If anyone gets any information about a release date, please share!

KenshiMaster16 04-05-2013 03:37 PM

If it is indeed "the next few days" then they'll be up Tuesday 12:01am. If not, then my computer may have a busted screen. lol Just kidding. Anyways, yeah, I'm expecting the next few Tuesdays to coincide with the tour, especially now that the reviews and internet in general are spreading the word, the timing is just too perfect.

Villavic 04-05-2013 05:45 PM

Help...
 
I've tried to find the "Alert me" option in the Fleetwood Mac page of the iTunes store with no success. Does anybody know where it is??

You can also go directly to artist pages in the iTunes Music Store and click the "Alert Me" link in the side of the page to be notified when there are new releases or tracks to download.

Villavic 04-05-2013 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1086068)
I've tried to find the "Alert me" option in the Fleetwood Mac page of the iTunes store with no success. Does anybody know where it is??

You can also go directly to artist pages in the iTunes Music Store and click the "Alert Me" link in the side of the page to be notified when there are new releases or tracks to download.

Forget it. From discussions.apple.com :

"I understand the article did not help. I have researched the issue and the Follow me or Alert option for artist is no longer a feature and this is why you are not able to do so."

Dodfather 04-06-2013 04:22 AM

Assuming they don't work in dog years then yes, I'm guess the next couple of weeks but with these guys - who knows?!

ShangriLaTroubl 04-06-2013 09:26 AM

I'm thinking probably by 2014.

Macfanforever 04-06-2013 10:00 AM

They probably sound like crap through my high power stereo system.Screw Icrap.

MacShadowsBall 04-06-2013 12:17 PM

I clicked on the thread title and thought they were released as the thread title made it sound like they were. :distress:

vivfox 04-06-2013 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MacShadowsBall (Post 1086263)
thought they were released as the thread title made it sound like they were. :distress:

I get peeved at misleading titles too.

D.W-Suite 04-06-2013 02:23 PM

Will somebody please change the thread title. :mad:

RickRobert 04-06-2013 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by D.W-Suite (Post 1086278)
Will somebody please change the thread title. :mad:

This please.

MacShadowsBall 04-06-2013 02:42 PM

I'm not a mod, but I think the best thing to do would be to merge this thread with the one titled "Where are the new songs?" Or else add a few words to the beginning title of this thread. :cool:

Musicman408 04-08-2013 10:04 PM

The Official EP Thread
 
Alright folks- there may, or may not be an EP released tomorrow. I'm thinking that if there is, AUTOMATICALLY THE BEST WEEK EVER!!! Anywho, this is the place to discuss all things EP.

SAD ANGEL is AMAZING!!!

rhiannondontgo 04-08-2013 10:11 PM

I think Sad Angel is a rockin' little song. My mom's a die hard Stevie fan and couldn't stand it when we were at the Philly show. Different strokes for different folks ;) I thought it was awesome. And great for her voice :)

SLN1 04-08-2013 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Musicman408 (Post 1086914)
Alright folks- there may, or may not be an EP released tomorrow. I'm thinking that if there is, AUTOMATICALLY THE BEST WEEK EVER!!! Anywho, this is the place to discuss all things EP.

SAD ANGEL is AMAZING!!!

if it was going to be released on iTunes tomorrow, wouldn't there something on their site about it, stating it would be released on 4/9/13?

elle 04-08-2013 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SLN1 (Post 1086926)
if it was going to be released on iTunes tomorrow, wouldn't there something on their site about it, stating it would be released on 4/9/13?

i suspect so, however horrible their management seems to be, they cannot drop the ball that bad. i don''t think it's gonna be tomorrow.

michelej1 04-09-2013 01:57 PM

[All the news outlets are saying the new EP will be released this week, but I think they are going on what Lindsey said in concert and not on any distribution info they might have]

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/20...ase-new-songs/

April 9, 2013, 1:20 pm New York Times

Fleetwood Mac to Release New Songs

By JAMES C. MCKINLEY JR.


Fleetwood Mac plans to release an EP of new songs in the near future, Lindsey Buckingham, the group’s lead singer and guitarist, said during a concert in Philadelphia on Saturday, according to Rolling Stone magazine. Introducing one of the songs during the show at the Wells Fargo Center, Mr. Buckingham said the group had gone into the studio last year and recorded several original tracks, calling the material “the best stuff we have done in a long time.” He said the band would release a few of the songs “in a few days,” then the group proceeded to play one of them, a mid-temp rock song called “Sad Angel.”

elle 04-09-2013 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1087020)
[All the news outlets are saying the new EP will be released this week, but I think they are going on what Lindsey said in concert and not on any distribution info they might have]

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/20...ase-new-songs/

yeah that's certainly how it looks like. i didn't see it listed for pre-order on amazon or itunes, so who knows.

Jondalar 04-09-2013 04:48 PM

It's Tuesday. Where is the damm EP?


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