:lol: wow why so bitter? and, Stones are doing it now too, so again - what would be wrong with doing it in your opinion? you can't change past but you can do something about the present and future. :cool:

exactly! :thumbsup:

would be very nice to hear ymlf and songbird back in the set again.

I wish The Ledge had a 'Like' button for this.

I'm trying to envision what lies ahead for Christine: an 11 hour flight, with Mick holding her hand the entire time. Is that comforting? And even if it is, I'm not sure it's an adequate substitute for the liquor she used to have on hand in the past.

Michele

I'm cracking up thinking of the song choice that Fleetwood Mac would give for a web vote.

Lindsey: "Okay, so we do this web vote thing where you get to pick the song!!!"
Stevie: (3 minute diatribe about how she doesn't even know how to spell computer, and has never seen an iPad, etc)
Lindsey: "Let's see what song we will be doing tonight............Never Going Back Again, no, Gypsy, no, Don't Stop, nah, we'll do that one later anyway, and the winner is--Sara!!!!!!!!!!"
Stevie: "Oh wow, ahahahahah, I hope I remember how that one goes, ahahahaha"

Sorry, I think it's cool that Mick is even bringing this type of thing up...having a fan choice song would be neat, but I can't see them doing this in the same manner that the Springsteen does with E Street Band. They just grab a sign out of the audience from fans and spend a minute figuring out the keys and then letting it rip.

If the Mac does this, it would be more in line with how the Stones did it in '97-'98 (and for the 5 anniversary shows last year)....here's a finite list of songs and you can vote for which you want to hear. There have always been rumors that the web votes on the Stones' Bridges to Babylon Tour were rigged anyway.

everyone keeps talking about an album being recorded with Christine and touring without her
wouldn't that hinder the tour and set list options, especially if trying to promote an album with Christine on

They can just not play her songs. :shrug:

I'd rather have her on an album than not have her on an album, regardless of the touring situation.

Hear, hear!

They (the band) used that excuse with Say You Will and not having Chris have songs on the album. "What if she had the hit single" I believe was tossed around by Lindsey and/or Stevie. To that, I say, that bloom is off the rose. I don't think anyone has to worry about a hit single from any Mac album these days. I highly doubt any album would be driving ticket sales for the tour in 2013. If they can get Chris to record, then it's easy, just avoid her songs in the show. I would much rather have album Chris then no Chris at all!

I'm betting on Xanax.

That would have been the case if they had toured behind the "Time" record.

This made me smile!

Poor Christine. She should take a very heavy sedative. I'd prefer that to 11 hours of Mick, god bless him, cutting my circulation off in First Class. :D

I agree. GIVE ME AN ALBUM! ;)

If they do Crystal... I will have a new huge respect for John McVie. I reaaaaaaallly hope they play Crystal.
Songs I would like them to play:
Crystal (haha)
Warm Ways (only if Chris tours)
Station Man- oh how i love that song, especially with stevie and lindsey
That's Alright
Oh Daddy- once again, only if Chris joins
Doesn't Anything Last
Smile at You
Little Lies- again, only if Chris is there
Think About Me- sorry, Chris again
Storms
I know I'm not wrong
Never Forget- Chris again
Love in Store- Chris and Stevie's harmonizing is amazing on that

:laugh::laugh::laugh: you know it!

Meanwhile, if they screw up & miss this prime opportunity that Dave Grohl has just handed them on a silver platter, to market the 40th anniv. of BN with a proper release / live show / even a doc - I will be so mad. :mad:

Surely they'll do something. SOMETHING.

I think all this talk about Christine coming back is so premature. I seriously doubt it will happen (even though it would be a dream come true if she did). Reminds me of all that talk about Sheyl Crow joining (although that was not a dream) a few years back.

I totally agree with someone's comment about prefering to see seeing Christine on a new Fmac album than joining them for some dates on this tour. What's all this BS about not wanting her to record if she's not going to hit the road with them to support it? I recently heard John say this and one of the others said it earlier too (don't remember if it was Lindsey or Mick).

Lastly, I think it's funny how someone will make a comment and change the perception of the real story. I could see how Mick's comment about Crystal could give a new fan the idea that it was that song, and not Frozen Love, that convinced Mick that he wanted That guitar player.


Reminds me of how so many people believe, including Lindsey, that that infamous 1974 call from Mick went directly to the couple. Lindsey often says "they asked me to join but I said you no. Not unless you take both of us" (I'm paraphrasing here). That didn't happen. Mick called Keith Olsen and Keith told Mick that they're a packaged deal. Then Keith called the couple and told them Fleetwood Mac wants BOTH of you to join.

I see what you're saying, however, this is really a strange coincidence that she is traveling to the United States after all of this time just to "visit" Mick and the gang. If it were any other time, I would agree, but people do change over time. Why is she coming to the U.S. now? Anything is possible.. fingers crossed. :D

Retirement or not, I don't think at least a guest appearance is out of the question. Now if they could talk her into participating in a new album, that would be truly something to look forward to. A new album with her full participation, I think would actually sell, and sell quite well.

She's probably bored out of her gored.

Boredom could be a part of it, then again it sounds as though she hasn't seen the band for a number of years, and in the least maybe she just wanted to escape the English weather for a sunny-vacay. Hmm... I do really wish Mick's comments prove to be more than just hopeful meandering... ;)

Me too. If Christine came back it would change all of their plans.

:lol: but you know better than Lindsey? were you there?

Keith said in sound city movie that Mick called him about the guitarist and he said "you may have a problem there, he wouldn't join alone" or something like that... this was interspersed scene with Lindsey saying the same story we always heard. either story is probably simplified for the sake of telling it... for all we know Mick called Keith and the Keith called Lindsey, than Lindsey said not without Stevie, than Keith called Mick back and told him about the problem, than Mick called Lindsey, and on and on - see what i'm saying? told in circles like this story doesn't sound nearly as good. so each of them just says "Mick called me" :)

That was a nightmare, so glad that never happened.

^i guess at this point with the tour booked, it's likely not going to happen... she does, after all, have to get paid for the shows she plays at. Though they may be able to work something out if it's only the UK show... :shrug:

To make it happen, I bet Mick and Stevie, and maybe John, would give their cut to Christine. Lindsey strikes me as not really caring at this point, at least if she's not involved with the project.

Yeah, with Chris there, he can't be as "masculine" on stage... :rolleyes:

^^haha... LOLz... Yeah maybe one of the band members just cuts her a cheque. Well... I certainly hope it happens! It's always possible that the current tour could be the last, so I'd love to see them have Chris onboard one final time.

I don't see it happening. Possibly one show, possibly even just one song. But even then I would be shocked.

If Mick were smart, he'd be spending all his energy trying to get Christine to contribute as a full band member on a new Mac album. Or should I say ALLOWING her to participate as a full band member without having to commit to a tour. The world needs one more Rumours-lineup studio album! A real kick in the ass, fist in the air salute to the band before they all lose their teeth.

Maybe they could also get Peter Green to come out to play "Oh Well" for a UK show or two.

Maybe the same shows!

Maybe Christine could be on keyboards with Peter playing.

:rolleyes:

Nah.

Fleetwood Mac could never do something nearly as cool as Cropredy, and now with Weston and Welch gone, I'm not sure I'd see the point.

Hi Everyone! Can I make my very first post about my dream opening? (Be gentle, I'm new) It would be this:

About 10 minutes before coming on stage they pipe through the speakers:
The Chain (original Demo)
Crystal (FM version with LB singing)
and then the curtains open and the first live song is Fireflies followed by the usual version of The Chain after which they just rock the house down for the rest of the set.

Why? Because the original demo of The Chain shows the love, Crystal shows the vision, Fireflies is about survival, FM version of The Chain is about commitment to each other and then the rest of the set shows what they have done over the years.

http://www.fmlegacy.com/main.html

The Time Tour aka Another Link in the Chain

mick fleetwood: Drums and Percussion
John McVie: Bass Guitar
Dave Mason: Guitars & Vocals
Billy Burnette: Guitars & Vocals
Bekka Bramlett: Vocals
Steve Thoma: Keyboards, Background Vocals, Acoustic Guitar

The Tour Setlist:
01. The Chain
02. You Make Loving Fun
03. Dreams
04. Oh Well
05. All Along The Watchtower
05. The Bigger The Love
06. Blow By Blow
07. We Just Disagree
08. Gold Dust Woman
09. Only You Know And I Know
10. World Turning
11. Dear Mr Fantasy
12. Say You Love Me
13. Don't Stop
14. Go Your Own Way
15. Tear It Up
16. Imagine*

ate Venue City (Fleetnotes are highlighted in blue)
July 4, 1994 Zilker Park Austin, TX
July 6, 1994 Konocti Harbor Resort Kelseyville, CA
July 7, 1994 Orpheum Theatre Vancouver B.C.
July 8, 1994 LB Day Amphitheatre Salem, OR
July 9, 1994 The Gorge George, WA
July 11, 1994 Park West Park City, UT
July 12, 1994 Red Rocks Amphitheatre Morrison, CO
July 14, 1994 Riverport Amphitheatre Maryland Heights, MO
July 15, 1994 Poplar Creek Amphitheatre Chicago, IL
July 16, 1994 Brown County Arena Green Bay, WI
July 17, 1994 Sandstone Amphitheatre Kansas City, MO
July 18, 1994 Civic Center Des Moines, IA
July 19, 1994 Bradley Center Milwaukee, WI
July 21, 1994 Blossom Music Center Cuyahoga Falls, OH
July 22, 1994 Pine Knob Amphitheatre Detroit, MI
July 23, 1994 Kingswood Amphitheatre Toronto, ON
July 26, 1994 Star Plaza Theatre Merrillville, IN
July 28, 1994 Riverbend Music Center Cincinnati, OH
July 29, 1994 Palace Theatre Louisville, KY
July 30, 1994 Riverfront Park Nashville, TN
July 31, 1994 Civic Arena Pittsburgh, PA
August 2, 1994 Wolftrap Performing Arts Center Vienna, VA
August 3, 1994 Wolftrap Performing Arts Center Vienna, VA
August 5, 1994 Montage Mountain Scranton, PA
August 6, 1994 Performing Arts Center Darien Center, NY
August 7, 1994 Saratoga Performing Arts Center Saratoga, NY
August 9, 1994 Hershey Park Arena Hershey, PA
August 10, 1994 Stowe Performing Arts Center Stowe, VT
August 11, 1994 Palace Theatre New Haven, CT
August 12, 1994 Beacon Theatre New York, NY
August 15, 1994 Great Woods Mansfield, MA
August 16, 1994 Great Woods Mansfield, MA
August 17, 1994 Jones Beach Theatre Wantagh, NY
August 18, 1994 Lakewood Amphitheater Atlanta, GA
August 19, 1994 Garden State Arts Center Holmdel, NJ
August 20, 1994 Mann Music Center Philadelphia, PA
August 21, 1994 Mann Music Center Philadelphia, PA
Sept. 5, 1994 Farley Speedway Dyersville, IA
Sept. 5, 1994 . Chicago, IL
October 8, 1994 . Las Vegas, NV
October 11, 1994 House of Blues Los Angeles, CA
October 15, 1994 Woodley Park Van Nuys, CA
Dec. 2, 1994 Groenoordhal Leiden, Holland
Dec. 3, 1994 . Middenmeer, Holland
Dec. 4, 1994 De Hallen Kortrijk, Belgium
Dec. 6, 1994 . Warszawa, Poland
Dec. 8, 1994 Palatrusardi Milano, Italy
Dec. 10, 1994 . Venezia, Italy
Dec. 12, 1994 . Roma, Italy
Dec. 16, 1994 Casino Kursaal Interlaken, Switzerland
Dec. 17, 1994 Martinihal Groningen, Holland
Dec. 30, 1994 Pompano Beach Amphitheatre Pompano Beach, FL
Dec. 31, 1994 Pleasure Island Orlando, FL
April 7, 1995 Tokyo Kousei Nenkin Kaikan Hall Tokyo, Japan
April 8, 1995 Tokyo Kousei Nenkin Kaikan Hall Tokyo, Japan
April 9, 1995 Tokyo Kousei Nenkin Kaikan Hall Tokyo, Japan
May 1995 Flagler Drive Waterfront West Palm Beach, FL
May 5, 1995 Beale Street Music Festival Memphis, TN
May 28, 1995 Konserthuset Oslo, Norway
June 2, 1995 . Skien, Norway
June 3, 1995 Esbjerg Rock Festival Esbjerg, Denmark
June 5, 1995 Deutschlandhalle Berlin, Germany
June 6, 1995 Music Hall Hannover, Germany
June 8, 1995 Hammerleinhalle Nurnberg, Germany
June 9, 1995 Phillipshalle Dusseldorf, Germany
June 10, 1995 Halle Peissnitzinsel, Germany
June 11, 1995 Stadtpark Hamburg, Germany
June 13, 1995 Terminal 1 München, West Germany
June 14, 1995 Stadthalle Offenbach, Germany
June 16, 1995 Freilichtbühne Karmenz, Germany
June 17, 1995 The Karlshamn Festival Karlshamn, Sweden
June 22, 1995 Esslinger Eisbahn Esslingen, Germany
June 25, 1995 . Koblenz, Germany
July 12, 1995 Adler Theatre Davenport, IA
July 16, 1995 Chippewa Valley Rock Fest Cadott, WI
July 18, 1995 Finger Lake PAC Canandaigua, NY
July 19, 1995 Kingswood Amphitheatre Toronto, Canada
July 21, 1995 Meadows Music Theatre Hartford, CT
July 22, 1995 Great Woods Mansfield, MA
July 23, 1995 Finger Lakes PAC Canandigua, NY
July 25, 1995 Montage Mountain Scranton, PA
July 27, 1995 Garden State Arts Center Holmdel, NJ
July 28, 1995 Jones Beach Wantagh, NY
July 29, 1995 Blockbuster Entertainment Center Camden, NJ
July 30, 1995 Starlake Amphitheatre Pittsburgh, PA
August 1, 1995 Kellogg Arena Battle Creek, MI
August 2, 1995 Polaris Amphitheatre Columbus, OH
August 3, 1995 Kings Island Amusement Park Kings Island, OH
August 5, 1995 Pine Knob Music Theatre Clarkston, MI
August 6, 1995 World Music Theatre Tinley Park, IL
August 8, 1995 Deer Creek Music Centre Noblesville, IN
August 10, 1995 Nissan Pavilion Bristow, VA
August 11, 1995 Walnut Creek Amphitheatre Raleigh, NC
August 12, 1995 Blockbuster Pavilion Charlotte, NC
August 13, 1995 Chastain Park Atlanta, GA
August 15, 1995 Starwood Amphitheatre Antioch, TN
August 16, 1995 World's Fair Amphitheatre Knoxville, TN
August 17, 1995 Mud Island Amphitheatre Memphis, TN
August 18, 1995 Starplex Amphitheatre Dallas, TX
August 19, 1995 Woodlands Pavilion Houston, TX
August 22, 1995 Wolf Mountain Amphitheatre Salt Lake City, UT
August 24, 1995 Desert Sky Pavilion Phoenix, AZ
August 25, 1995 Blockbuster Pavilion Devore, CA
August 26, 1995 Redwoods Amphitheatre Santa Clara, CA
August 27, 1995 Reno Hilton Reno, NV
August 29, 1995 Konocti Harbor Resort Kelseyville, CA
August 30, 1995 Universal Amphitheatre Universal City, CA
August 31, 1995 Universal Amphitheatre Universal City, CA
Sept. 1, 1995 Aladdin Theatre Las Vegas, NV

Of course, that tour ended before the album was released (10/10/95)...

What I said was "That would have been the case if they had toured behind the "Time" record." All of those shows were before "Time" was released, hence they never toured in support of "Time".

I'd settle for her playing Songbird in the UK shows... But a full album w/ Christine on harmonies, keys and as a writer/lead vocals and such.. wow!!!!

So, when Stevie recently said she'd pool her resources and pay Christine $5 million if it would get her to return, I wonder if she said that for a reason. I mean had the subject actually come up and maybe she and Mick were saying to each other, "Hey we already signed the contracts and four of us are getting paid and even if Christine came back now, we would have no way to restructure the deal and split it five ways," so maybe did Stevie then say, "I'd pay her out of my own pocket," and is that what made her make that stray comment?

I mean, she is always saying something about missing Christine, but she never mentioned paying her money like that before (she did mention building her a kitchen after the Dance tour) and I just wondered if it came from anywhere. Maybe it came out of her head or maybe it was an offshoot of a real life discussion she'd had with someone.

Michele

I think she's said it more than once, too. Which would lend me to think that somehow that got put in her head for a reason. Kind of how going over to Lindsey's house sparked her bringing up that they all have nice houses over and over again. :lol:

More Christine McVie Rumours
 

Since leaving Fleetwood Mac in 1998, Christine McVie has stayed close with the band, but refused all attempts to rejoin the group, largely due to her fear of flying. However, that might be changing. In a new interview, titular drummer Mick Fleetwood said that he is doing his best to lure her back into the fold for their upcoming tour.

“I’m seeing Chris here in London before I leave,” he told the English tabloid the Sun. “And even though she loathes flying and she’s never been back to the United States since the day she left, she is getting on a plane and flying to Hawaii with me. I’m going to hold her hand all the way, even if I have to handcuff it.”

This contradicts McVie’s own words from last month, where the keyboardist/singer said she was content to be out of the spotlight. And both Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks, independently of each other, admitted that her return was unlikely, but Fleetwood is hoping that being around her old bandmates will rekindle the desire to get back on stage with them.

“She’s going to come and stay for three weeks in Maui,” he continued. “I’m getting goosebumps just thinking about it. John’s going to come over from Honolulu to see her and then she’s going to L.A. to see Stevie, who misses her terribly and is really excited to see her. But it’ll be her decision. But we’d make her very welcome if she wanted to creep on that stage again.”

Even if McVie decides against a return to the road, she will have the opportunity to see them. The band announced five shows today (Feb. 4) in the U.K. and Ireland in September and October, with tickets going on sale Saturday (Feb. 8).


http://ultimateclassicrock.com/mick-...fleetwood-mac/

I'm glad she's getting out of the house. It makes me sad to think of her shutting herself off from the world and letting her choices be driven by fear. This visit is definitely a step in the right direction.

Will it lead to her rejoining the group? I highly doubt it, although I'd be more than happy to be proven wrong.

So, did Christine just not tell the others that she was in New York to promote her solo album in 2004?!
:shrug: