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CADreaming 01-12-2013 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KindOfWoman90 (Post 1072335)
Exactly!

I love being a BN/FM/SN/LB fan because each entity offers me something different depending on my mood! :nod: Sometimes I wonder why I ever venture outside of the FM world :p There's really no need :lol: :xoxo:

Well said, my friend! Well said. :thumbsup:

michelej1 01-12-2013 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KindOfWoman90 (Post 1072335)
Exactly!

I love being a BN/FM/SN/LB fan because each entity offers me something different depending on my mood! :nod: Sometimes I wonder why I ever venture outside of the FM world :p There's really no need :lol: :xoxo:

And no time. I mainly listen in my car and when I saw Aaron Swartz committed suicide I knew that my whole week was shot as far as hearing new stuff, because I was only going to be listening to podcasts about Swartz for the foreseeable future. Sorry unheard Gotye album.

Michele

shackin'up 01-13-2013 08:17 AM

Without a leg to stand on. But It's close with DLMDA and Frozen Love. I adore this album from opening to close, by the way. I think It's a hippiefolkpop Masterpiece.

Stormwind 01-13-2013 09:27 AM

Frozen Love without any doubt. But the whole album is great

Villavic 07-18-2025 10:54 AM

This is a good time to revive this thread. I didn't vote, I don't remember why, I probably didn't have the album back then. Now I have it, digital format only 256 kbps, but with very good sound quality. I don't remember how I got it, but I'm sure I didn't buy it. Someone here must have shared it with me. So if they re-release it, I would just buy bonus tracks if they included them.

I would have voted for Don't Let Me Down Again, although LDW and CITN are very close.

I'm just listening Stephanie and thinking... mmm, this could be too.

jbrownsjr 07-18-2025 01:53 PM

Frozen Love is a really great song!

I love how FM brought them up musically. This was a great foundation of compositions (including their newly written songs).

Mixing these two with the brits was the best route for everyone.

WalkAThinLine. 07-18-2025 02:13 PM

"Crystal" and "Stephanie" are my favorites. "Lola My Love" is easily the worst due to the misogynist lyrics.

GypsySorcerer 07-29-2025 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1301515)
Frozen Love is a really great song!

I love how FM brought them up musically. This was a great foundation of compositions (including their newly written songs).

Mixing these two with the brits was the best route for everyone.

Whew, that's the truth. I've revisited BN recently with all the chatter and wow, did they really benefit from the Mac rhythm section.

This album isn't bad, but it's not great, either. Crystal, Stephanie, WOALTSO, and Frozen Love are probably my favorites.

sleepless child 07-29-2025 09:15 PM

Crystal. It's my favorite on the white album also:nod:

jbrownsjr 07-30-2025 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer (Post 1302034)
Whew, that's the truth. I've revisited BN recently with all the chatter and wow, did they really benefit from the Mac rhythm section.

This album isn't bad, but it's not great, either. Crystal, Stephanie, WOALTSO, and Frozen Love are probably my favorites.

It's so true. It's like someone learning French that's pretty decent at the language, then someone comes along and converses with you and suddenly you start to become beautifully fluent. And they begin to increasingly thrive, as well!

Macfan4life 07-30-2025 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sleepless child (Post 1302037)
Crystal. It's my favorite on the white album also:nod:

You're from Pittsburgh, right? Do you remember in the early and mid 80s WDVE's electric lunch would sometimes play Don't Let Me Down Again and Frozen Love. It was a real treat and I always turned it on too late to record the full song so I would only have partial songs on my cassette tape. It was like a unicorn to record a song from Buckingham Nicks. Stevie said her dad's favorite song was Don't Let Me Down again. John McVie loved Crystal so much that it was his pressure to put it on Fleetwood Mac. Frozen Love is probably my favorite. I wonder if history would have changed if another song from the album was played instead of Frozen Love when Mick heard it. Frozen Love does demonstrate Lindsey's intricate playing.

greendaze5 08-01-2025 09:40 AM

There was actually a 1977 disco version of 'Don't Let Me Down Again' by Canadian singer Shirley Eikhard.


Penguin Emeritus 08-01-2025 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1302057)
You're from Pittsburgh, right? Do you remember in the early and mid 80s WDVE's electric lunch would sometimes play Don't Let Me Down Again and Frozen Love. It was a real treat and I always turned it on too late to record the full song so I would only have partial songs on my cassette tape. It was like a unicorn to record a song from Buckingham Nicks. Stevie said her dad's favorite song was Don't Let Me Down again. John McVie loved Crystal so much that it was his pressure to put it on Fleetwood Mac. Frozen Love is probably my favorite. I wonder if history would have changed if another song from the album was played instead of Frozen Love when Mick heard it. Frozen Love does demonstrate Lindsey's intricate playing.

"partial songs on my cassette tape" made me laugh, yeesh, that describes all my early 8os mix tapes! and then of course we have the inevitable song cut-off when the tapes reached the end of side A or B...

Interesting to imagine mick hearing a different song instead of frozen love. something like Lola My Love might not have caught his attention in the same way! so amazing how it turned out the way it did.

--Lis

Macfan4life 08-01-2025 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by greendaze5 (Post 1302117)
There was actually a 1977 disco version of 'Don't Let Me Down Again' by Canadian singer Shirley Eikhard.


Wow that was really good. Thanks for sharing!

Macfan4life 08-01-2025 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus (Post 1302127)
"partial songs on my cassette tape" made me laugh, yeesh, that describes all my early 8os mix tapes! and then of course we have the inevitable song cut-off when the tapes reached the end of side A or B...

Interesting to imagine mick hearing a different song instead of frozen love. something like Lola My Love might not have caught his attention in the same way! so amazing how it turned out the way it did.

--Lis

Yep that is the way we rolled in the 1980s. I always heard the end of Frozen Love, Silver Springs, or Don't Let Me Down Again (these elusive unicorns) on the radio. By the time I found a cassette to record on I had to either rewind or fast forward past the songs I did not want to record over so I always just ended up with about 50 seconds of the song :eek:
We are the same age so you know the pain!

Villavic 08-01-2025 03:42 PM

My taped songs were never complete. Even though I taped from the beginning, my nightware was that the DJ used to talk before the end, so I had to stop recording. :mad:

WalkAThinLine. 08-01-2025 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus (Post 1302127)

Interesting to imagine mick hearing a different song instead of frozen love. something like Lola My Love might not have caught his attention in the same way! so amazing how it turned out the way it did.

--Lis

The liner notes for the deluxe edition of the White Album mention that Keith Olsen played more than one song for Fleetwood during his visit. Here's the quote from Fleetwood:

"That hour and a half spent in Sound City changed everything. I think Keith Olsen played me 'Frozen Love', 'Crying in the Night", and 'Crystal' - which we ended up re-cutting for Fleetwood Mac. I do not believe I heard the whole album (referring to Buckingham Nicks).

Penguin Emeritus 08-01-2025 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WalkAThinLine. (Post 1302132)
The liner notes for the deluxe edition of the White Album mention that Keith Olsen played more than one song for Fleetwood during his visit. Here's the quote from Fleetwood:

"That hour and a half spent in Sound City changed everything. I think Keith Olsen played me 'Frozen Love', 'Crying in the Night", and 'Crystal' - which we ended up re-cutting for Fleetwood Mac. I do not believe I heard the whole album (referring to Buckingham Nicks).

thanks for that info! i did not spend the $ on the deluxe edition lol. at least keith chose some of the best songs!

--Lis

BrownEyedGirl26 08-02-2025 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1302129)
Wow that was really good. Thanks for sharing!

I agree! What a voice! :nod:

I like how she kept the same arrangement.

DownOnRodeo 08-02-2025 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1302130)
By the time I found a cassette to record on I had to either rewind or fast forward past the songs I did not want to record over so I always just ended up with about 50 seconds of the song :eek:
We are the same age so you know the pain!

I was doing the same through the late 90s!

WalkAThinLine. 08-02-2025 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by greendaze5 (Post 1302117)
There was actually a 1977 disco version of 'Don't Let Me Down Again' by Canadian singer Shirley Eikhard.


Interestingly, Shirley Eikhard also covered "Say You Love Me", which was actually released as a single in Canada before the original recording by Fleetwood Mac. At one point, both versions were actively competing with each other on the charts. On the August 28, 1976 chart, Fleetwood Mac's version jumped up from #69 to #55, surpassing Eikhard's version in the process, which dropped from #45 to #58.

Fleetwood Mac's "Say You Love Me" performed considerably worse in Canada compared to the other singles from the White Album ("Over My Head: peak position of #9; "Rhiannon": peak position of #4; "Say You Love Me": peak position of #29). It's pretty likely that the moderate chart success of Eikhard's version (peaked at #34) tempered the chart run of Fleetwood Mac's original.

Macfan4life 08-03-2025 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by WalkAThinLine. (Post 1302147)
Interestingly, Shirley Eikhard also covered "Say You Love Me", which was actually released as a single in Canada before the original recording by Fleetwood Mac. At one point, both versions were actively competing with each other on the charts. On the August 28, 1976 chart, Fleetwood Mac's version jumped up from #69 to #55, surpassing Eikhard's version in the process, which dropped from #45 to #58.

Fleetwood Mac's "Say You Love Me" performed considerably worse in Canada compared to the other singles from the White Album ("Over My Head: peak position of #9; "Rhiannon": peak position of #4; "Say You Love Me": peak position of #29). It's pretty likely that the moderate chart success of Eikhard's version (peaked at #34) tempered the chart run of Fleetwood Mac's original.

Wow. Wait. Say You Love Me was covered and released by another artist before Fleetwood Mac? How did that happen?
Anyway here it is. Not too shabby.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V31Xim1Im5A

WalkAThinLine. 08-03-2025 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1302154)
Wow. Wait. Say You Love Me was covered and released by another artist before Fleetwood Mac? How did that happen?
Anyway here it is. Not too shabby.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V31Xim1Im5A

Fleetwood Mac's "Say You Love Me" had already been on the White Album for roughly one year before it was released as a single.

Timeline:
July 1975: The White Album is released, which includes "Say You Love Me"

June 1976: Eikhard's version begins to appear on the Singles Chart

July 1976: Fleetwood Mac's version begins to appear on the Singles Chart

aleuzzi 08-03-2025 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by WalkAThinLine. (Post 1302155)
Fleetwood Mac's "Say You Love Me" had already been on the White Album for roughly one year before it was released as a single.

Timeline:
July 1975: The White Album is released, which includes "Say You Love Me"

June 1976: Eikhard's version begins to appear on the Singles Chart

July 1976: Fleetwood Mac's version begins to appear on the Singles Chart

And it wasn’t covered by just anyone. Shirley Eikhard is a great songwriter herself. She is best known for penning “Something to Talk About,” which Bonnie Raitt made famous in the early 90s.

Villavic 08-03-2025 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by WalkAThinLine. (Post 1302155)
Timeline:
July 1975: The White Album is released, which includes "Say You Love Me"

June 1976: Eikhard's version begins to appear on the Singles Chart

July 1976: Fleetwood Mac's version begins to appear on the Singles Chart

I was going to ask How did the band allow that? I mean, at that time Fleetwood Mac was re emerging as a popular band so any "interference" could have been harmful for their popularity. There have been better covers (specially according to the public) than the original. Close to You, What's Love Got To Do It, Nothing Compares 2 U, etc.

On the other hand, it could help to impulse the band songs, but it was a risky move. Anyway, my doubt was, she needed the band permission, didn't she? Or just the record company? Or just Christine (and BN in the case of DLMDA)?

BigAl84 08-06-2025 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by WalkAThinLine. (Post 1302155)
Fleetwood Mac's "Say You Love Me" had already been on the White Album for roughly one year before it was released as a single.

Timeline:
July 1975: The White Album is released, which includes "Say You Love Me"

June 1976: Eikhard's version begins to appear on the Singles Chart

July 1976: Fleetwood Mac's version begins to appear on the Singles Chart

How the heck have I have a been a fan of this band for 25 years (a good 15 of those years practically a fanatic!) and i'm just learning about this now. Mind blown.


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