Little Lies. The ugliest piece of "ironing underwear"-pop ever. That chorus drives me nuts. Only that song almost ruined my entire fandom.

I know what you mean. I like Little Lies and love to hear it, but that song has almost singlehandedly given Fleetwood Mac an unwarranted, elevator Muzak reputation that has plunged the band into the same public perception vortex as . . . Neil Sedaka.

Not all the prayers in the world could save us.

Michele

I love that song! The fact that so many musicians have tried to cover it says something, too. For what it's worth, I've heard The Doors in elevators and department stores, too.

A couple people have dissed Everywhere and I can understand that a tad more. I think the Tango arrangement of it is too sugary and fluffy. I love the 1:30 demo that's floated around--A LOT.

It's the singsongy nature of the chorus that overshadows the verses and all people remember is "tell me lies tell me sweet little lies". It's like molasses.

But I like the song and I actually think it has complexity -- not just musical complexity, but lyrically, the message makes me ache a little and it touches me because of when it was released in the band's life. So, I would never trade Little Lies for Songbird or Oh Daddy in a million years. I'd toss both of them out to keep it and I don't tire of hearing it. But I think it kind of ruined FM's life on a surface level as being the first thing that detractors seize upon. Even more so than Don't Stop.

Michele

In the context of a live show set:

Rhiannon
Landslide
Dreams
Don't Stop - stop it!
Stand Back


Notably, mostly Stevie Nicks songs! Kind of sad that, after several decades she hasn't found newer material to feature prominently in live in shows. Though, it was somewhat revelatory that she brought to life 'Beautiful Child' and 'Storms.'

If you reference other long-standing bands, you will see that in most cases, while they give credence to their past, they don't rely so heavily on it in live performances.

Mmmm let me see let me see...

- Don't Stop
- Dreams
- Landslide

I think "Go your own way" is amazing, and "Little Lies" and "Everywhere" are not so burnt like the others above (ok, maybe here where I am), as "Rhiannon" or "Big Love" too.
Regards!

Just because I live in Poland where radios play only three Fleetwood Mac songs: "Little Lies", "Everywhere" and "Seven Wonders" I would choose them as the songs that I like but only in small quantities:laugh: As much as I like "Tango In The Night" I think it's way too overplayed album, at least in my country.

That's actually a refreshing thing to hear. Michele

I think she would love to not have to sing these same songs night after night but she still gets a great response when she does and she enjoys the fact that people sing them with her! Unfortunately when songs are played over and over again, like when you have to listen to the radio at work, you can't help but get tired of them. It must be the same for the singer as well! It doesn't do justice at all to the music for it to be overexposed in this way!

You see, i'm confused as to why Stevie is always accused of being the biggest offender in sticking to the same tired songs in her set, but I think Lindsey is way worse. He really could affrd to not do NGBA and Second Hand News at every danmed show. Other then ISA (which I could watch him do every day of the year such a mezmerizing experience) His standards get on my nerves way more. And he has more cemented in his set then Stevie. Stevie has Dreams GDW Rhiannon Stand Back and Edge. Shes toyed many times with a Landslide-less set but always falls back, but she tries. Lindsey never toys with no NGBA.

If you put the Wiltern Set next to Lindsey's songs from the small machine, Stevie wins hands down.

Same here. :) I guess Tango was the biggest album they ever had in this part of the world. Macedonian radios (and Macedonia is not that far from Poland) mostly play Big Love, Everywhere, and Little Lies. They also used to play Peacekeeper and Thrown Down at least twice a day when SYW came out, and still play them pretty often. I used to live in Croatia and Serbia for some time, and Tusk is HUGE there.

What songs from Tusk do they beat into the ground there?

Sara, Beautiful Child and Tusk were played frequently on the radio, and most of the people I met owned a copy of the album, and considered it a classic. In Croatia they also play Save Me very often.

Hey, here in Argentina things are so different! Don't Stop and Dreams for example, are currency! In the radios always sound songs like the two above, with Black Magic Woman (both versions), and Landslide. But nothing else.
So, you listen more songs in the radio than here!
Regards

Bless you, for I could soooooooooo do without another performance of I'm So Afraid. I was sick of that clunker back in 1982. Ugh. Ymmv.

Wow! I've never heard Beautiful Child on the radio. Those 3 songs from Tusk are amazing. Maybe I should move there. Do you have any Latino's there?

i completely disagree. however, i don't go to Stevie's solo shows so i have no complaints about her 14-song setlist - i don't care either way. i don't know most of her solo deep cuts. SB and EO17 are really the only SN solo songs i know. :D

but i went to a number of Lindsey's solo shows and out of 19 songs he does on Small Machine he performs 6 FM songs (so less than a third), others are solo. 6 FM songs are NGBA, BL, SHN, Tusk, ISA, and GYOW. i would hate it if he dropped any of these (although i wouldn't mind seeing faster version of NGBA). and casual concert goers / friends / family that i brought with me to some of the shows were blown away by both BL and ISA - everybody always seems to be. SHN and Tusk are great for loosening up the crowd and dancing. and GYOW - well that's just one huge party!! so no, i don't think he can drop any of these 6. if you have ever stood in front of Lindsey or anywhere within these small venues that he tours solo when he does live any of these songs, and you still want him to drop these, especially BL, ISA, or GYOW, i am very surprised. :shrug:

but - i never liked Trouble, and still don't - so as far as i'm concerned he can drop Trouble. but again, people seem to react very positively to it. and if you look at what his solo hits were, you have Trouble, Go Insane and Holiday Road (arguably probably his biggest solo selling song if you look by the individual songs sales, even if it didn't originally chart that high). and he never ever does Holiday Road anymore. so out of 3 solo hits he had, he doesn't even do one of them.:p

of 13 solo songs Lindsey does on his current tour, he has 6 new ones in his setlist (i think this is the number of the new songs he consistently does when he tours solo, for any album), 2 hits - Trouble and Go Insane, and 65 deep cuts - SUD, UTS, AMS, TIO, Treason.

keep in mind that most of his older songs have been reworked and done in a different way - some slightly, others substantially.

I love Trouble. (And I'm not even a fingerpicking nut!) I still wish he'd get rid of Big Love instead.

I totally agree that SHN is necessary. It doesn't even matter if the song comes out terribly musically; it gets a lot of people standing up for the first time during the concert.

Lindsey is doing 6 FM songs, 6 new solo songs, 6 "other." And he changes his songs more than Stevie - this tour he's doing AMS, last time he did Don't Look Down. Last tour he did Come instead of ISA. I haven't been to a Stevie concert since 2001, but from what I've read, doesn't she largely do the same songs other than the IYD songs?

Anyway, I agree with elle. :lol:

Landslide except the original
Dont Stop and YMLF
NGBA and I have very little love for Big Love



It will never happen but I would like for both Lindsey & Stevie to have set list that are all solo songs. Leave the Fleetwood songs for the Mac setlist.

Hmm, I was at last tour, and he did both all four shows I attended?

OK, I was working off the FMLegacy GOS tour page... they don't have ISA listed in the setlists. But I checked my 3 year old NYC review (at my livejournal) and I did note ISA there. So... I don't know, lol. :shrug:

yeah, my understanding is he was doing both ISA and Come on GOS tour.

to be frank, as we discussed many times, i'd change a lot in his current setlist to better fit my taste, but that doesn't detract from the fact SWS tour has a great setlist - a lot of it due to the fact that new SWS songs are so great and fit so nicely the way they were incorporated in the set.

but yeah, he should do 3+ hr sets like Bruce in order to make me happy - a bit under 2 hr LB show is way too short - that's why i had to see so many:laugh:

and, GOS and UTS are represented with some of my least favorite songs from these 2 albums, plus while i love TIO from OOTC, AMS is not exactly on my list of favorites. and original GOS/SYW songs are so strong but NONE of them are in the current setlist... i can go on and on :lol:

The "academic" setlist planning would probably be too difficult with a 3 hour show. :D:angel:

I think my original point was that he at least has more variety across tours than Stevie does... even if it's not always the songs we'd pick for him to do.

Easy setlist help for LB: For OOTC: Drop AMS. Add almost anything else. Keep TIO. For GOS: Drop Treason. Add anything besides TPT and DYMM. For UTS: Drop UTS, keep SUD. Add Down On Rodeo. Anything after that, I'll leave up to him. :cool:

Yeah, I didn't have anything at all written in my review besides the fact that he DID ISA... I think it got overshadowed by Come since they were so close together.

i'm with you on every single one of these points / choices :thumbsup: - except my first choice to add from UTS would be Try for the Sun :)

Yeah, but he'd probably want to do Try for the Sun as another solo acoustic piece (unless he's up for teaching some tricky guitar parts to Neale and Brett)... which would put it front of set instead of mid-set. Down On Rodeo can work as a band song and fit where UTS is now.

And if we're talking actual first choices from albums, then he's doing Shuffle Riff and Twist Of Fate from GOS. :thumbsup: :D

well, all 4 of these songs were on my request list that i gave Walfredo at some point during the tour...:thumbsup:

Because it was the only N.1
so the question is why this was the only Number 1 FM song?? That's what I don't get

As I recall, radio's playlists aren't exclusively airing only number one songs. While it's surprising that Fleetwood Mac hasn't charted any other number one songs, so what? Their songs are a far more durable/memorable than many long forgotten number one songs. And consider that many of their album tracks that weren't ever singles are staples on radio and in stores, doctors' offices and supermarkets everywhere! lol

i'm not sure i understand what you all are talking about. Second Hand News is played constantly on both classic rock stations and as background music on tv shows and it was never even a single or charted anywhere.

Well, as far as what I was talking about, NYC radio has seemingly all but abandoned playing FM most of the time. (Q104 used to play them all the time; now I never hear anything.) So, the only FM songs I ever hear are Dreams on the lite stations and the occasional Dance Landslide. I haven't heard SHN on the radio in years.

Used to hear: SHN, Monday Morning, The Chain, SYLM, GYOW, Little Lies occasionally, Rhiannon a lot, even Don't Stop used to be played more than it is now. EO17 still gets played very occasionally. Silver Springs was played like crazy when The Dance came out. Oh, and Gypsy gets played on the lite stations about once a month.

I should try watching more TV. :lol:

I couldn't agree with you more. This is my least favorite FM song.