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chiliD 12-01-2009 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 857053)
Well, one of the strangest things about Tusk its track sequencing. I'm not sure how the songs could have been rearranged to make a more "logical flow" from one track to the next--and I'm not sure such a flow would be desirable. But I do know nothing is stranger than hearing "Over and Over"--a pleasant, glossy, easy-listening tune--followed by "The Ledge", which is one of the most weirdly-arranged/performed songs in rock-n-roll. The juxtaposition of those two tracks at the album's outset seems to encapsulate the spirit of the entire project: two bands working in one, chafing against one another and each benefitting from the other's presence.

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 857086)
Oh Lord, that's nothing compared to Sara being followed by What Makes You Think You're The One :laugh:. I kinda think the transition from Over And Over to The Ledge is kinda fun. That transition is kinda like, "ok... this is going to be a fun ride." I still find Sara->What Makes You Think You're The One jarring and obnoxious... because Sara totally blisses you out, sends you off into dreamland, and then WHAM! you're slapped out of it :laugh:. But I guess that's part of what makes Tusk, Tusk.

"Over & Over" is, by far, the worst opening song on any album (not just Fleetwood Mac)...it should've ENDED one of the sides of the LP. THAT was the first INSANE thing about Tusk. Not having a Christine song on Side 2 was next. From day 2 of owning the album, I was busy planning my cassette version with a better (and more SANE) running order.

Louie, the "Sara" to "WMYTYTO" transition wasn't quite as shocking when the album first came out, due to it being an LP and since "Sara" ended side 1, the time it took to turn the record over lessened the "WHAM!" effect of "WMYTYTO"...granted once it came out on CD, that was definitely inhanced quite a bit.

Sleepless-Child 12-01-2009 02:26 PM

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I tell you what's scary:
Lindsey's rendition of Never going back again on the Making Of Rumours
:shocked: Never heard that. Where can I find this ?

Meowi 12-01-2009 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sleepless-Child (Post 857771)
:shocked: Never heard that. Where can I find this ?

I thinks on the Classic Albums - Rumours.
But any way, he was going all over top (as he does) :lol:

aleuzzi 12-01-2009 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 857752)
"Over & Over" is, by far, the worst opening song on any album (not just Fleetwood Mac)...it should've ENDED one of the sides of the LP. THAT was the first INSANE thing about Tusk. Not having a Christine song on Side 2 was next. From day 2 of owning the album, I was busy planning my cassette version with a better (and more SANE) running order.

I can't disagree here on either counts. But this makes me wonder: which song should have opened the record? I've never been able to figure out a good lead track. Possibly the title tune. Possibly "Never Forget." Possibly "Sisters."

Anybody have any thoughts?

Neb-Maat-Re 12-02-2009 04:24 AM

Not sure it about frightening anyone, but what became The Ledge should have been the chorus of That's Enough For Me.

HejiraNYC 12-02-2009 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 857752)
"Over & Over" is, by far, the worst opening song on any album (not just Fleetwood Mac)...it should've ENDED one of the sides of the LP. THAT was the first INSANE thing about Tusk. Not having a Christine song on Side 2 was next. From day 2 of owning the album, I was busy planning my cassette version with a better (and more SANE) running order.

Gosh, I'm not sure we're even the same species! I don't think it's possible for me to disagree with you more- "Over and Over" is the perfect song to open the album. It's a beautiful morning-after-the-party song in which you just lay there, squinting at the morning sun, while trying to remember what just transpired the night before- which is kind of where FM was in their career now that the whole Rumours sensation was starting to ebb. It's sobering, reflective, resigned, and it heralded an ambitious, sprawling, dark album that was anything but sunny California pop anthems. It was such a radical departure from anything that appeared on Rumours, and it needed to be. If I had to name only one quintessential Tusk song that fully captures the spirit of the album, this would be it.

Sleepless-Child 12-02-2009 12:46 PM

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I thinks on the Classic Albums - Rumours.
But any way, he was going all over top (as he does)

:laugh:. I love Lindsey when he goes crazy. Thanks a lot, I'm gonna try to find this :D

WarmSir3 12-02-2009 03:51 PM

Tusk is still one of the strangest songs I've heard to date!

jbrownsjr 12-02-2009 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 857928)
Gosh, I'm not sure we're even the same species! I don't think it's possible for me to disagree with you more- "Over and Over" is the perfect song to open the album. It's a beautiful morning-after-the-party song in which you just lay there, squinting at the morning sun, while trying to remember what just transpired the night before- which is kind of where FM was in their career now that the whole Rumours sensation was starting to ebb. It's sobering, reflective, resigned, and it heralded an ambitious, sprawling, dark album that was anything but sunny California pop anthems. It was such a radical departure from anything that appeared on Rumours, and it needed to be. If I had to name only one quintessential Tusk song that fully captures the spirit of the album, this would be it.

Wow I think you may have just changed my mind.. and that's really hard to do... Cos I've been in the Chili camp on that one for a long time... Or maybe I've just become a lame ass spineless terd...

Nevertheless, that was so amazingly descriptive... I think I'm buyin it..

chiliD 12-02-2009 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 857928)
Gosh, I'm not sure we're even the same species! I don't think it's possible for me to disagree with you more- "Over and Over" is the perfect song to open the album. It's a beautiful morning-after-the-party song in which you just lay there, squinting at the morning sun, while trying to remember what just transpired the night before- which is kind of where FM was in their career now that the whole Rumours sensation was starting to ebb. It's sobering, reflective, resigned, and it heralded an ambitious, sprawling, dark album that was anything but sunny California pop anthems. It was such a radical departure from anything that appeared on Rumours, and it needed to be. If I had to name only one quintessential Tusk song that fully captures the spirit of the album, this would be it.


Are you kidding me with that crap? What were you injecting at that party, black ice? heroin? Holy schmolly...the opening number on an album is there to grab your attention, to make you desire to hear the rest of the album. "Over & Over"'s funeral dirge-ness, as well as its length just made me want to sit in the tub & slit my wrist before the song ended rather than listen to the rest of side 1, much less the other 3 sides of the album. Place it at the end of one of the sides and, "Damn, I can't wait to turn the platter over and get to the rest of the album."

My first listen I had to get all the way to "Think About Me" before I could get to a song I could listen through all the way.

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 857991)
Cos I've been in the Chili camp on that one for a long time... Or maybe I've just become a lame ass spineless terd....

{bites tongue}

jbrownsjr 12-02-2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 857993)



{bites tongue}

No I still get it... just playin a little...


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