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PenguinHead 07-08-2009 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ragandbone (Post 827567)
GRIPES will make a good album title - sort of a RUMOURS for the senior years.

How about "A Gift of Gripes" ?

PenguinHead 07-08-2009 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by wheart (Post 828007)
I love tourbooks when they're done well. I remember looking through the OSOTM tourbook pre concert and I was completely mesmerized. Stevie's and the Mac's tourbooks of late have sucked. Really sucked. I never even saw the CV tourbook but I'm sure it sucked, too.

The Crystal Visions tour book was a new low. High School year books, as bad as they are, look better. Of course Priest of Nothing aka Chris Nicks was responsible for that. Overall, Fleetwood Mac/Stevie Nicks haven't had a decent graphic design team in a long time. I feel they really don't care that much about that aspect of their released material, nor do they have the insight to see that the quality level is so low.

I've been recently mulling over the Enchanted box set. Chris Nicks was in charge of "art direction." Though it could have been really bad, it was passable at best, which is just about his best. In the hands of an inspirational, capable designer, it could have been so much better.

Being a huge collector of music media, as well as a former graphic designer, it is painfully obvious to me to see that the design standard of Fleetwood Mac related product is so sub par in comparison other bands of equal stature and even of those of lesser stature.

rocknalittle 07-10-2009 08:39 PM

I was wondering if there was going to be a tourbook for this tour as well, when I asked the (merchandice asst?) why they were not selling one, I got the response that the band was spending more on damages and shipping? I think my biggest gripe was that the Sacremento show was canceled, thankfully they did Oakland and San Jose!

petep9000 07-10-2009 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by skuncles (Post 827564)
outside of "Seven Wonders" there's not much to really get into of her Mac output post "Mirage".

Doesnt anyone have a strong desire to hear a live version of 'Afairs of The Heart'????
Seriously though, I would have liked to maybe hear her make an attempt at 'Thrown Down'.

strandinthewind 07-10-2009 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by petep9000 (Post 830318)
Doesnt anyone have a strong desire to hear a live version of 'Afairs of The Heart'????

Yes, and as a duet with LB. She could sing "One set of doors was the color of honey" he could sing "one set of doors was pink and grey" Then they both sing "I wonder which set is mine said she" and then she could sing "as she walked down the long hallway"

Affairs is a cool song that suffered from the Klonopin and the IMO lackluster production of BTM - it still shines a little though.

vivfox 07-10-2009 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by petep9000 (Post 830318)
Doesnt anyone have a strong desire to hear a live version of 'Afairs of The Heart'????

Every last freakin' one of us has a strong desire to hear a live version of every song she has that she's never performed live before. Hell I'd even be happy if she sang Jane, you know that stupid song about monkey's.

petep9000 07-10-2009 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by strandinthewind (Post 830319)
Yes, and as a duet with LB. She could sing "One set of doors was the color of honey" he could sing "one set of doors was pink and grey" Then they both sing "I wonder which set is mine said she" and then she could sing "as she walked down the long hallway"

Affairs is a cool song that suffered from the Klonopin and the IMO lackluster production of BTM - it still shines a little though.


you think? I've never considered it as anything other than a Klonopin throwaway, I'll try to visualize it as something else. Maybe if the tempo was slowed down a bit...

strandinthewind 07-10-2009 10:44 PM

There's a demo floating around that is better.

But, I do like the song and I liked it when it came out. To me, the production of BTM is mundane sounding and trite. That is sad because the talent in the players was clearly there.

And - to each their own. I like Jane, to the horror of others :laugh:

petep9000 07-10-2009 10:57 PM

I like Jane too! I mean, I don't love it as my favorite Stevie song of all time, but it has some good parts to it. When she sings "there are angels here...angels, angels sent from God...", oh I love that. I love when she sings about angels, actually.

strandinthewind 07-10-2009 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by petep9000 (Post 830343)
I like Jane too! I mean, I don't love it as my favorite Stevie song of all time, but it has some good parts to it. When she sings "there are angels here...angels, angels sent from God...", oh I love that. I love when she sings about angels, actually.

Me too!

Plus, I think Jane was the first time since the song Bella Donna that she did that cool harmony thing with the girls. She does it at the end of the song, which I think is cool. There is a cool demo of Jane out there somewhere.

petep9000 07-10-2009 11:23 PM

I had that Jane demo, on a cassette. Lost all my demos and rarities years ago during one of my moves. But I remember the Jane demo. I like to joke about the 'chimpanzee' line, but again I like the angels chorus and yes, I agree the ending is lovely.

daniellaaarisen 07-12-2009 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 830329)
Every last freakin' one of us has a strong desire to hear a live version of every song she has that she's never performed live before. Hell I'd even be happy if she sang Jane, you know that stupid song about monkey's.

So, so true. I would love nothing more than for Stevie to be a little more adventurous in her set lists... adding one previously unpreformed ballad to each new tour is not enough.


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