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Lindsey Jr. 03-02-2009 04:52 AM

;) It's only the first show :D

danax6 03-02-2009 05:21 AM

Holy ****nuts on a cracker. Storms is awesome.

That's it, I'm flying to America.

kennation 03-02-2009 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by desrtangl (Post 801459)
Stand Back- "AGAIN 1,2,3,4"


Now, that was unexpected and great! 1234!!! I liked it. I am a little more excited about that song...

bikerchic 03-02-2009 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kennation (Post 801560)
Now, that was unexpected and great! 1234!!! I liked it. I am a little more excited about that song...

I liked it too.

BellaDonna93 03-02-2009 09:42 AM

Well, I thought that Storms was awesome! Really great! Stand Back was great but I think Stevie was a little bit nervous 'cause it was the first show....maybe....it's just the first, you know, we will see many more Stand Back performance, both you in the U.S that'll be on the shows and we in Europe that will watch it on youtube...:) (I hope they'll come here to the summer!!)

Thank you A LOT for posting thise videos so fast here! You rock!

Peace and love,
/Belladonna93

desrtangl 03-02-2009 09:59 AM

My final installment...


StandbackStevie 03-02-2009 10:07 AM

thanks for posting video clip of standback awesome and love the clip as well of storms performance great sound and clip thanks can't wait for march 14th in connecticut at the mohegan sun. i love she changed standback a bit love it

Villavic 03-02-2009 10:19 AM

WWOOOWWWW THAANKS!!!
Can't wait 2 months for Dallas!!!!!

BTFLCHLD 03-02-2009 10:48 AM

thankyou desertangel...fantastic! Ohwell is a special treat and I never tire of ISA...TESTOSTERONE>>>>Stevie gets pouty when she isn't the center of attention...shouldn't we all know that by now? I'm not so sure she will be getting any 'happier' as this tour moves along. IMO, both Stevie and Lindsey would be better off with their solo gigs...they both seem to enjoy that A LOT. :shrug:

Moz 03-02-2009 11:07 AM

I agree with everyone else about Sisters. I'd **** twice and die if they did it live.

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Originally Posted by wolfontherun (Post 801490)
Yup she sang that line to perfection. Glad to see she still has it.

That part made me cringe. :sorry: I don't like it when she oversings parts like that - IMO she sounds so nasally. The rest of the song was pretty sweet, though.
Somebody should tell Stevie that when she shouts, it doesn't always sound that great. Same with Lindsey - he likes to sing some parts really slow and quiet, which works sometimes, but not all the time.

But the last minute of Oh Well was on fiaaaahhhhh! :cool:

skcin 03-02-2009 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 801488)
Yeah she definitely has a problem with projecting too much. You can totally see she realized that while singing the first few lines of Sara for her Soundstage. She took it down a few notches, and sang beautifully. Storms was good when she wasn't belting. But it wasn't too pretty when she did :sorry: .

Hejira & I posted about this recently - belting vs. soft & whispery. ITA with your opinion on Storms. I wanted to love it, buit I don't. :sorry: I like the lower parts a lot: "I did not deal with the road" and "though the love has always been" but the higher notes were painful. I actually cringed at "did I ever really care that much." I'm so disappointed. :distress: And I'm truly upset that I AM disappointed, because I wanted to love it.

[QUOTE=jmn3;801489]

I'll bet that with Storms, Beautiful Child was put to rest. I couldn't see Stevie doing two relatively unknowns from Tusk in one set. /QUOTE]

Exactly.

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Originally Posted by kak125 (Post 801506)
I enjoyed World Turning on the last FM tour but this time it wasnt the same. I think they can drop Dreams (even though they wont), Gypsy (am I the only one that doesnt think this song is that good live anymore?), Second Hand News and World Turning and throw in more stuff from Tango (besides Big Love) and Say You Will. I missed not hearing Come and I really wish they could have found a way to do Thrown Down or Everybody Finds Out just once. I know greedy greedy!

No, you;'re not alone. I don't think Gypsy translates well at all. But casual fans won't care, they'll be happy to hear it even if it's not great.

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Originally Posted by Moz (Post 801650)

That part made me cringe. :sorry: I don't like it when she oversings parts like that - IMO she sounds so nasally. The rest of the song was pretty sweet, though.
Somebody should tell Stevie that when she shouts, it doesn't always sound that great. Same with Lindsey - he likes to sing some parts really slow and quiet, which works sometimes, but not all the time.

But the last minute of Oh Well was on fiaaaahhhhh! :cool:

Seriously. She needs to sing Storms like she sang "Say Goodbye on the last tour.

jmn3 03-02-2009 01:24 PM

I'd be willing to bet Storms really comes into its own as the tour progresses. She has never sung this in front of an audience before and I'll guarantee she had some nerves. I agree about the high parts being a bit much, but I was there, and it really translated well. I didn't see it as lull in the show where the whole thing fell apart. People were pretty transfixed on watching them perform this great old tune.

Gypsy was a clunker and it's been a clunker always on stage. The Dance DVD version was alright, and the Mirage Tour video version is classic in its own way, but neither of them, nor any version I've ever heard, have ever lived up to the magic that the studio version has. That truly was and is perfection.

My biggest disappointment (performance wise) last night was honestly Go Your Own Way. This is my favorite song of theirs and probably favorite song of anyone. I love it. I've loved every version and listening to the subtle changes through the years. Last night I just found it very blah to listen to. NOT the solo, but the verses. The solo is legendary as always, but the verses seemed to be arranged exactly like Lindsey's solo tours. I don't know how to explain it, but listen to a 2007 LB solo version and then a version from the SYW tour. Generally with the Mac, the song seemed meatier, heavier...something. The same with I'm So Afraid and Tusk...I just wasn't altogether too thrilled with the LB solo tour-ification of these songs.

skcin 03-02-2009 01:38 PM

What are people putting in for keywords & titles on Youtube? If you do a general search, you can't find the vids. I tried Fleetwood Mac, Fleetwood Mac Live,
Fleetwood Mac Pittsburgh, Fleetwood Mac 2009, etc. Nothing. If you want more hits on your vids, you gotta put plenty of info in the description. :wavey:

I found Don't Stop. :shocked: Painful to my ears, and I don't mind the SYW versions.


EveryHour 03-02-2009 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jmn3 (Post 801707)
I'd be willing to bet Storms really comes into its own as the tour progresses. She has never sung this in front of an audience before and I'll guarantee she had some nerves. I agree about the high parts being a bit much, but I was there, and it really translated well. I didn't see it as lull in the show where the whole thing fell apart. People were pretty transfixed on watching them perform this great old tune.

Thank you for this perspective. I really enjoy and appreciate the demeanor with which your entire post is presented.

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Originally Posted by skcin
She needs to sing 'Storms' like she sang 'Say Goodbye' on the last tour.

It's easy to jump the gun and wonder if that side of her voice is gone due to nose damage, and that she's doing the very best she can with what she still has. But then you remember things like 'Say Goodbye' (or the tone she achieves when, say, doing the 'Sorcerer' yodel) and you know she's still got it. I am one who mostly tends to defend Stevie, but I do definitely wish she would vary her tone more like she used to, granted that we know she IS still capable of it.

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Originally Posted by jmn3 (Post 801707)
Gypsy was a clunker and it's always been a clunker on stage. The Dance DVD version was alright, and the Mirage Tour video version is classic in its own way, but neither of them, nor any version I've ever heard, have ever lived up to the magic that the studio version has. That truly was and is perfection.

I could not agree with you more on every point. 'Gypsy' has NEVER been a knockout live, IMO.

skcin 03-02-2009 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmn3 (Post 801707)
I'd be willing to bet Storms really comes into its own as the tour progresses. She has never sung this in front of an audience before and I'll guarantee she had some nerves. I agree about the high parts being a bit much, but I was there, and it really translated well. I didn't see it as lull in the show where the whole thing fell apart. People were pretty transfixed on watching them perform this great old tune.


let's hope so.

Ulpian 03-02-2009 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin (Post 801709)
What are people putting in for keywords & titles on Youtube? If you do a general search, you can't find the vids. I tried Fleetwood Mac, Fleetwood Mac Live,
Fleetwood Mac Pittsburgh, Fleetwood Mac 2009, etc. Nothing. If you want more hits on your vids, you gotta put plenty of info in the description. :wavey:

I found Don't Stop. :shocked: Painful to my ears, and I don't mind the SYW versions.




I'd really like to see/hear SYLM from that show... but can't find it :distress:

Is it up somewhere? *hopes*

skcin 03-02-2009 02:21 PM

^ Me too, but I haven't found it yet either. Doesn't seem to be much on Youtube yet. Hopefully someone got the full show on DVD & the boot will start circulating soon.

BTFLCHLD 03-02-2009 02:24 PM

2:48 of sara
 

Betsy 03-02-2009 02:33 PM

Ulpian: I'd really like to see/hear SYLM from that show... but can't find it :distress:

SKCIN: ^ Me too, but I haven't found it yet either. Doesn't seem to be much on Youtube yet. Hopefully someone got the full show on DVD & the boot will start circulating soon.

Ditto what they said.

BTFLCHLD 03-02-2009 02:36 PM

silver springs
 

skcin 03-02-2009 02:37 PM

Thanks Nicki. Keep looking. ;)

BTFLCHLD 03-02-2009 02:37 PM

big love
 

gldstwmn 03-02-2009 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LiamMcConville (Post 801416)
Thanks to Sandor on "the other board!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9wfL...layer_embedded

This gave me chills. I was completely shocked when she went for that high note.

Nicks Fan 03-02-2009 03:35 PM

Since I am goinmg to meet Mick Fleetwood in Ottawa I think I will ask him
about Seven Wonders and SOTM. Who knows maybe they will ressurect them by the time the tour is over.

Matt

ShangriLaTroubl 03-02-2009 03:50 PM

Silver Springs
 
I think that version of Silver Springs was the best, vocally, that she's done at least since The Dance tour. I'm glad she did the "never get away, never get away, never get away."

Hopefully as the tour progresses and she loosens up, as she usually does, she'll not only sing it with force, but sing it AT Lindsey, that always makes for some entertainment. :nod:

kak125 03-02-2009 04:14 PM

Yes please ask him about seven wonders and then stress to him the importance of adding in SOTM and while your at it tell him we want a new album after the tour, HA! :)

skcin 03-02-2009 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ShangriLaTroubl (Post 801750)
I think that version of Silver Springs was the best, vocally, that she's done at least since The Dance tour. I'm glad she did the "never get away, never get away, never get away."


I was pleasantly surprised, actually. Gave me chills. Not sure why. :p

David 03-02-2009 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by gldstwmn (Post 801743)
This gave me chills. I was completely shocked when she went for that high note.

I like "Gold & Braid" better, I think. :thumbsup:

goldustsongbird 03-02-2009 05:21 PM

That wasn't bad. :shocked: She really hit her stride near the end. The first half was nasal and off-key (sometimes!) It sounded like she was just getting the feel of the song, so hopefully she'll figure it out. 5:00 - the end was right on.

At least she got Sara right. :thumbsup:

BTFLCHLD 03-02-2009 07:32 PM

1:27 dreams
 

BTFLCHLD 03-02-2009 07:33 PM

2:30 rhiannon
 

BTFLCHLD 03-02-2009 07:35 PM

band intros
 

Rox A Little 03-02-2009 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin (Post 801761)
I was pleasantly surprised, actually. Gave me chills. Not sure why. :p

Cause it's never ever been done live! 30 years is a real long way to go....

Rox

JazmenFlowers 03-02-2009 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by skcin (Post 801702)
Seriously. She needs to sing Storms like she sang "Say Goodbye on the last tour.

word.

I liked it (and it wasn't a trainwreck, imo) for the simple fact that it was something new and it's one of my favs, but I deffo didn't love it.

ShangriLaTroubl 03-02-2009 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JazmenFlowers (Post 801898)
word.

I liked it (and it wasn't a trainwreck, imo) for the simple fact that it was something new and it's one of my favs, but I deffo didn't love it.

I think if she keeps it, it will get better as the tour progresses. Opening night is usually always awkward for her.

MiniLindsey 03-02-2009 10:26 PM

Don't Stop is being played a step lower in D, for those who are musically inclined.

drzubritsky 03-03-2009 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 801488)
Yeah she definitely has a problem with projecting too much. You can totally see she realized that while singing the first few lines of Sara for her Soundstage. She took it down a few notches, and sang beautifully. Storms was good when she wasn't belting. But it wasn't too pretty when she did :sorry: .

This has been my issue with Stevie's vocals for the past dozen years. While I can accept the fact she doesn't have the upper range of her youth, I see no reason why she can't vary the dynamics a bit. Some more variety in dynamics would partially compensate for the lost high notes, and provide some opportunities for new interpretations that may be just as interesting in a different way.

I wonder if the vocal coaching is actually degrading the quality of her interpretations? It sounds as if she's trying so hard to maintain vocal control that she's not varying her voice at all. I think The Dance was the last time we heard more dynamic vocals and that was before she started regular voice coaching. On The Dance, she occasionally summoned that breathy quality that has since disappeared (e.g. the "rock on, ancient queen" section on GDW).

This is not just a problem in concert but on studio recordings as well. The only vocal variation of any significance that I can recall since The Dance was that rare moment of semi-falsetto on "Sorcerer".

StreetAngel86 03-03-2009 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wolfontherun (Post 801490)
Yup she sang that line to perfection. Glad to see she still has it.

it's a lil rough
maybe coz it's live and i'm used to the album version
but i like it
:thumbsup:

plunky guitar doesnt bother me lol

skcin 03-03-2009 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Rox A Little (Post 801859)
Cause it's never ever been done live! 30 years is a real long way to go....

Rox



Uh...I was talking about Silver Springs. I am not happy with Storms. :distress:

HejiraNYC 03-03-2009 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by drzubritsky (Post 801936)

This is not just a problem in concert but on studio recordings as well. The only vocal variation of any significance that I can recall since The Dance was that rare moment of semi-falsetto on "Sorcerer".

And don't forget the 2005 dance version of "Dreams." Granted, I am still not entirely how much of that song was Stevie vs. Robo-Stevie. :shrug:

Listening to the live "Storms," I can't help but wonder whether her vocal coach is encouraging her to project from the diaphragm for every song, which is supposedly considered "proper form." But I suspect this is something you would do only in an un-mic'd setting, e.g., Broadway musical or cabaret, where singers are taught to project to the last row of the venue. Her phrasing of "Storms" strikes me as being a bit cabaret-ish- where she sustains notes that really should have been clipped, and oversinging/over-enunciating passages that should have been whispered or slurred a little bit.

But then again, maybe she is rendering a new interpretation of "Storms." The original is more of a quiet, introspective cry-yourself-to-sleep soliloquy. The live version sounds more anguished, more angry and self-flagellating, especially where she screams "...so I searched to find an answer there..." Sure one can argue that she phoned in her Pittsburgh performance for the most part, but this is the one song where she really connected with the emotion of the song.

Vocals aside, I lurv, lurv, lurv the live arrangement of "Storms." I was wondering how they would have been able to pull off such a production-specific arrangement live, and I think it was done incredibly well. In fact, I would love to hear a new FM album of nothing but stripped down arrangements- a single guitar, percussion, bass and Fender Rhodes...


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