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markolas 10-17-2006 07:18 PM

I don't think this is really a fair comparison. In the Meantime is pretty non-substantial. Just a fluffy little pop album, which is what CM does. UTS is a piece of brilliance - LB's best work, along with OOTC.

henryscutter 10-17-2006 07:33 PM

Went to Barnes&Noble today to get UTS and it was #41 on their top 100 Bestsellers - Not bad

jbrownsjr 10-17-2006 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 583769)
You're alright, in my book!:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

i'm thinking i kind of like henry too lolololol

jbrownsjr 10-17-2006 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by markolas (Post 583784)
I don't think this is really a fair comparison. In the Meantime is pretty non-substantial. Just a fluffy little pop album, which is what CM does. UTS is a piece of brilliance - LB's best work, along with OOTC.

hey!!! no makin fun of OOTC... it's probably my favorite solo album next to French Kiss.... :woohoo:

Gailh 10-18-2006 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by markolas (Post 583784)
I don't think this is really a fair comparison.

I agree. UTS is (IMO) a piece of self indulgence with apalling vocals and ITM is a well produced intimate album of pop/rock songs for grown ups.

Gail

Aisling 10-18-2006 09:40 AM

pronouncing something unsubstantial would mean you are comparing two of the same. in the case of ITM & UTS, one is an apple and the other is an avacado. the "better" of the two is merely a matter of taste.

christine and lindsey are two very different artists. both of them excel within their own area of expertise. they obviously had personal goals in mind with these solo efforts, and i think they should both be happy with what they produced because each album fulfills that expectation.

it just happens to be that i enjoy ITM more than UTS. that doesn't lessen lindsey's achievement, and i would think the converse might be true for people who prefer UTS.

macfan 57 10-18-2006 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Gailh (Post 583893)
I agree. UTS is (IMO) a piece of self indulgence with apalling vocals and ITM is a well produced intimate album of pop/rock songs for grown ups.

Gail

Tell us how you really feel, Gail.:lol:

By the way, I couldn't have said it better myself.:D

BlackWidow 10-18-2006 11:46 AM

Uts!!!!!!!!

SortaSavageLike 10-18-2006 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackWidow (Post 583995)
Uts!!!!!!!!

Ealray Avagesay Ikelay!

Musicman408 10-20-2006 06:40 PM

I really like the song under the skin, but as a huge Stevie fan, I am hoping for a new solo album since i have never lived to see a release as a fan...

Much Love,
Ethan

estranged4life 10-20-2006 06:42 PM

I see no competition...
 
since that is like comparing cats to dogs....Plus, I dont have a copy of "In the Meantime".

Hawkeye 10-20-2006 10:46 PM

This should include Trouble in Shangri La too. But even with TISL I'd still choose Under the The Skin as the favorite.

HomerMcvie 10-21-2006 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by estranged4life (Post 585340)
since that is like comparing cats to dogs....Plus, I dont have a copy of "In the Meantime".

What a coincidence. I don't have UTS!:lol:

Janet 10-26-2006 04:51 AM

UTS is far more my preference. I am sorry to say but I haven't stopped listening to it since I got it. I can't. It's in my head. ITM just didn't have that kind of impact for me.

Gailh 10-26-2006 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Janet (Post 589121)
UTS is far more my preference. I am sorry to say but I haven't stopped listening to it since I got it. I can't. It's in my head. ITM just didn't have that kind of impact for me.

You don't have to be sorry that you like something.

If you like UTS better than ITM then that's fine - it's your preference.

I happen to like ITM better but we're all entitled to our opinion and don't have to apologise for it.

Gail

HomerMcvie 10-26-2006 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Gailh (Post 589154)
You don't have to be sorry that you like something.

If you like UTS better than ITM then that's fine - it's your preference.

I happen to like ITM better but we're all entitled to our opinion and don't have to apologise for it.

Gail

I'm sorry that you felt you had to say that.









:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :D

Janet 10-26-2006 04:37 PM

I am sorry because I had high hopes for ITM. I love her solo 1984 record so much. I have worn thru copies listening to it so much!

But I was impressed...not like Lindsey's album...which I listen to so much I may start having dreams about it.

Serrart 10-28-2006 06:16 PM

There isn't an option I can vote. I find ITM interesting for the lyrics, built on tenderness and irony but the production was too amateurish. UTS is interesting for the arrangements and some of the lyrics are nicely intimate but in both albums there isn't music I come back to as a necessity.


Romy

jbrownsjr 10-28-2006 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Janet (Post 589591)
I am sorry because I had high hopes for ITM. I love her solo 1984 record so much. I have worn thru copies listening to it so much!

But I was impressed...not like Lindsey's album...which I listen to so much I may start having dreams about it.

i am going to ban you for having an opinion!! ;)

jbrownsjr 10-28-2006 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Serrart (Post 590962)
There isn't an option I can vote. I find ITM interesting for the lyrics, built on tenderness and irony but the production was too amateurish. UTS is interesting for the arrangements and some of the lyrics are nicely intimate but in both albums there isn't music I come back to as a necessity.


Romy


wow... that was kind of how i feel too... i am getting more used to UTS as i go along... but it's going slow... but it's always a process with me and LB... Law and Order took me forever.....

foxyluva 10-29-2006 01:59 AM

I prefer "Under the Skin"

ITMT is a bore - I like the songs, but I cannot handle the album all in one sitting. UTS is just so much more interesting :shrug:

Miss Vicky 10-29-2006 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 591061)
I prefer "Under the Skin"

ITMT is a bore - I like the songs, but I cannot handle the album all in one sitting. UTS is just so much more interesting :shrug:

If this were SW, I'd be giving you Karma for that one.

It's not often that we agree on anything music related.

foxyluva 10-29-2006 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 591062)
If this were SW, I'd be giving you Karma for that one.

It's not often that we agree on anything music related.

Well, you could always go over to SW and give me karma anyway :laugh:

It is rare for us to agree on anything music related, let alone Mac related!!

I actually feel this way about all Christine's solo albums. I like them, just don't love them or find them particularly interesting :shrug:

I actually don't really like Lindsey's "Law & Order" album either, its like his crappy "Mirage" songs trying to be like "Tusk". I do like "Trouble" and "Shadow of the West" however...

Miss Vicky 10-29-2006 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 591063)
I actually don't really like Lindsey's "Law & Order" album either, its like his crappy "Mirage" songs trying to be like "Tusk". I do like "Trouble" and "Shadow of the West" however...


I love Law and Order, though my favorite Lindsey solo album remains Go Insane. I do agree, however, that his Mirage songs are pretty crappy - "On Diane" in particular. Actually, with a few exceptions, the whole album is pretty crappy.

foxyluva 10-29-2006 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 591064)
I love Law and Order, though my favorite Lindsey solo album remains Go Insane. I do agree, however, that his Mirage songs are pretty crappy - "On Diane" in particular. Actually, except for a few exceptions, the whole album is pretty crappy.

Oh God yes, "Mirage" is pretty appauling. "Gypsy" And "Straight Back" from Stevie are brilliant, and I love every Christine track (as usual), but Lindsey really lets it down - I mean, I HATE his songs on this album - in my opinion, some of the worst Mac tracks ever...

I have not heard "Go Insane" yet. I have only heard "Law & Order" "Out of the Cradle" and "Under the Skin". I also have the Soundstage DVD, which I love :)

Miss Vicky 10-29-2006 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 591065)
I have not heard "Go Insane" yet. I have only heard "Law & Order" "Out of the Cradle" and "Under the Skin". I also have the Soundstage DVD, which I love :)


:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

Seriously? It's fantastic! Have you at least heard (or seen the videos for) "Slow Dancing" and "Go Insane"? Excellent stuff. So eighties (with its sythesized dance beats), but still so insanely Lindsey.

As for Mirage, amazingly enough the only songs I really love are "That's Alright," "Gypsy," and "Wish You Were Here." I do like "Empire State," though, for its crazy vocals. The rest I can do without.

foxyluva 10-29-2006 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 591066)
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

Seriously? It's fantastic! Have you at least heard (or seen the videos for) "Slow Dancing" and "Go Insane"? Excellent stuff. So eighties (with its sythesized dance beats), but still so insanely Lindsey.

As for Mirage, amazingly enough the only songs I really love or "That's Alright," "Gypsy," and "Wish You Were Here." I do like "Empire State," though, for its crazy vocals. The rest I can do without.

I know - now I have completed my Mac Back-Cat I am going to get "Go Insane" - I have heard the title track though, and I absolutely adore it :nod:

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Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 591066)
As for Mirage, amazingly enough the only songs I really love are "That's Alright," "Gypsy," and "Wish You Were Here." I do like "Empire State," though, for its crazy vocals. The rest I can do without.

I love "Eyes of the World" live on the SYW tour, but Lindsey's stuff is really, really bad on "Mirage". I have always wondered if he did it on purpose because the band did not want to do another "Tusk" :shrug:

"Wish You Were Here" is my least favourite Chris song on "Mirage" :rolleyes: "Love in Store" and "Only Over You" are my favourites...

Miss Vicky 10-29-2006 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 591067)
I know - now I have completed my Mac Back-Cat I am going to get "Go Insane" - I have heard the title track though, and I absolutely adore it :nod:

Once you've done that, you need to move on to getting other solo stuff, like Billy and Bekka. 'Cause they rock. :cool:


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"Wish You Were Here" is my least favourite Chris song on "Mirage"
There we go disagreeing again.

foxyluva 10-29-2006 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 591068)
Once you've done that, you need to move on to getting other solo stuff, like Billy and Bekka. 'Cause they rock. :cool:

Well, you will soon see what I think when I listen to those tracks you sent me :D

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Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 591068)
There we go disagreeing again.

New it had to happen :laugh: Seriously though, the lyrics are so simplistic, it sounds like a 10 year-old wrote them:

"I wish you were here holding me tight
If I had you near it would make it alright"

:rolleyes:

We will forgive Christine, because atleast she didn't write them

Miss Vicky 10-29-2006 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 591071)
the lyrics are so simplistic, it sounds like a 10 year-old wrote them:

"I wish you were here holding me tight
If I had you near it would make it alright"

Nothing wrong with simple lyrics. At least then there's no doubt as to WTF the songwriter's talking about.

foxyluva 10-29-2006 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 591072)
Nothing wrong with simple lyrics. At least then there's no doubt as to WTF the songwriter's talking about.

True, but unfortunately the lyrics are too simple - there is such a thing...

Anyway, back to Buckingham - isn't "Someones Gotta Change Your Mind" the greatest song eva!!!

Miss Vicky 10-29-2006 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 591074)
Anyway, back to Buckingham - isn't "Someones Gotta Change Your Mind" the greatest song eva!!!


That goes without saying!!!!!!!

Also in love with "Cast Away Dreams"

foxyluva 10-29-2006 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 591075)
That goes without saying!!!!!!!

Also in love with "Cast Away Dreams"

Yes! Thats my second favourite song on the album! Then "Down on Rodeo". In fact, I love them all, but I can take or leave "It Was You" - I love the lyrics, but I don't lilke the composition of the song overall...

Miss Vicky 10-29-2006 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 591076)
Yes! Thats my second favourite song on the album! Then "Down on Rodeo". In fact, I love them all, but I can take or leave "It Was You" - I love the lyrics, but I don't lilke the composition of the song overall...

Really? I love that one. The only one I can do without is "Flying Down Juniper." That song annoys.

foxyluva 10-29-2006 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 591077)
Really? I love that one. The only one I can do without is "Flying Down Juniper." That song annoys.

I don't think I listened to "Flying Down Juniper" properly - I was still reeling from SGCYM :D

Miss Vicky 10-29-2006 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 591079)
I don't think I listened to "Flying Down Juniper" properly - I was still reeling from SGCYM :D

FDJ is like the ugly younger sibling of SGCYM. They're closely related but one's great and the other... isn't.

foxyluva 10-29-2006 03:29 AM

Oh yeah, and just for the record, I would prefer a new Stevie to either of these :D

Miss Vicky 10-29-2006 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by foxyluva (Post 591094)
Oh yeah, and just for the record, I would prefer a new Stevie to either of these :D

That's 'cause you suck. :p

Dreamz19 10-29-2006 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 591066)
:shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

Seriously? It's fantastic! Have you at least heard (or seen the videos for) "Slow Dancing" and "Go Insane"? Excellent stuff. So eighties (with its sythesized dance beats), but still so insanely Lindsey.

As for Mirage, amazingly enough the only songs I really love are "That's Alright," "Gypsy," and "Wish You Were Here." I do like "Empire State," though, for its crazy vocals. The rest I can do without.

It is soooo nice to see someone that likes Empire State. I have seen some label that as FM worse song. But I really really like that song...esp Christine's paino at the end. Mirage is my least fav Rumours line up album but it has grown on me big time. I like every song except for "Oh Diane," Can't go Back," "Book of Love," and "Love in Store." I usually like Chris's songs but I can't stand "Love in Store." And I'm indifferent to "Wish You Were Here."

jbrownsjr 10-30-2006 12:25 AM

the first time i heard empire state... i was like wtf!!!

now i love it... it grew on me....


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