Well I LOVE Come On Over and The Women In Me. The only thing I really like on Up now is Up.

Just to add some fuel to the fire lol. My friend did makeup for some news reporter who attended all of the events for the last Country Music Awards show in Nashville. He was there for 2 days of rehearsals and said the only person acting like a diva was Shania lol. He said Reba and Dolly were laid back chatting often, and had little makeup on. He said Shania wasnt bitchy, just acting like a TOTAL DIVA lol.

The difference between Shania & Fleetwood Mac is Shania's fan's are as young as 5 year's old, I don't think you can say that about FM, by daughter is 9 and has loved Shania since she was about 6. I took my daughter to see Shania last year when she was in Toronto & I couldn't believe how many little girls were there (even dressed like her). Shania's fans ages range from 5 - 80, that's quite a large fan base to sell album's to. Oh by the way when we were in our seats waiting for her to come on, Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours" was playing over the PA system & I've heard from many other fan's that she played FM at every concert, so we know that she's a huge FM fan! :nod: :thumbsup:

Do you think FM sometimes writes shallow pop music? I think they do. The image that comes across makes all the difference, IMO. If a 14 year old was singing Little Lies, it would come off as TRL material. I also think not writing their own songs is an issue and makes it come across as uninspiring and meaningless.

Shania does write her own material, but the audience she is targeting is the reason why she is "pop country". She knows how to sells records. Talking about boy/girl problems in a childish way just doesn't do it for me, but it does for a 17 year old. I do have to say that Woman in Me is a great song!

If you have ever seen Shania's video for her song "UP" she brings out a trunk with all her favourite stuff, ie: a AC/DC t-shirt (a "Mutt Lange" reference?, a Canadian hockey jersey, pictures of her parents & so on, it's really nice, and there on the wall behind her, hanging amongst a bunch of pictures is the "Rumours" album cover, has anyone noticed that? It's really cool :thumbsup:

You are so right, country listeners & rock listeners buy her albums.

Yeah, they do. But I justify myself listening to it because there is real music thrown in the mix as well. (Something was grammatically incorrect about that sentence, but I don't know what it was so hell with it). Songs like "Everywhere" could be considered shallow pop music, but I still prefer Christine's voice to Shania's, and that makes a big difference to me. That and the fact that "Everywhere" has sentimental value to me.

But I know deep down that we should just listen to what we enjoy listening to, and that's that. I'll try to adopt that viewpoint, but then one of my brothers will make fun of me for listening to shallow music and some reference will be made to how I'm the youngest and not the brightest in the family. :rolleyes: So, I've always got my reasons for being uptight, stupid as they are. :thumbsup:

Um, sorry for the meandering there.

Hillary

:shocked: She sounds like a dying cow on that one. :sorry: I much prefer Shania singing up-tempo songs....her ballads are kinda painful.

We had a discussion about charitable donations, taxes, etc., awhile back wherein you said you would never get that people should get any tax break or that companies should make donations for favorable public exposure. Sinilarly, charities know that they will make tenfold what they give the stars (most of which is donated or obtained at a reduced cost BTW). That is where I was getting that. If this is not what you said - then I am wrong (but I know you said it :cool: ) or you said it and have changed your mind - so be it.

P.S. Please produce the proof on Shania. I wanna see where she demanded a Rolex :wavey:

Doubtful :distress: :laugh:



Party For Two is horrible and sounds worse than a dying cow. :)

I don't know...

I think what's more behind Shania's success is her huge, beautiful voice and gorgeous bod. Her husband is definitely part of her sound, but he's not the one up there shaking his ass on stage night after night and belting out those songs. Wow, and I'm not even a Shania fan!! :laugh:

I just hate it when a man gets all the credit for a hard working woman's success.

This is something I will always disagree with. Go tell that to Dionne Warwick after having listened to what she did with Burt Bacharach in the '60s. It's never been about who writes what, it's about how you perform that stuff that creates this illusion of authenticity and sincerity to people. As Burt himself said: without the right singer, you never have a song. Or as Sinatra said, "a singer is essentially an actor".

:nod: Or Linda Ronstadt from any decade! She has always labeled herself as an interpreter of songs rather than a songwriter which is fine by me because she has one of the most beautiful voices I've ever heard AND she's kickstarted many talented songwriters' careers in music like Warren Zevon and The Eagles. She's tops in my book :thumbsup:

Shania's first album, self titled, bombed, Mutt Lange comes into the picture, gold ever since. Shania wouldn't be up on that stage shaking her ass off in the first place if it weren't for her songs. One word to describe Shania's songs is "catchy" and that is due to Mutt's co-writing, composing and producing. Don't get me wrong, I love Shania, and not just because she's Canadian (but that helps :laugh: ) but her songs are just so damn "catchy" & her hot little bod don't hurt either :nod:

I hate it too when a man gets all the credit for a hard working woman's success but sometimes it does happen :lol:

Well, I think "Still the One" was a GREAT song. AND - the video was HOT. So, that certainly helped :shrug:

pchic]Shania's first album, self titled, bombed, Mutt Lange comes into the picture, gold ever since. Shania wouldn't be up on that stage shaking her ass off in the first place if it weren't for her songs. One word to describe Shania's songs is "catchy" and that is due to Mutt's co-writing, composing and producing. Don't get me wrong, I love Shania, and not just because she's Canadian (but that helps :laugh: ) but her songs are just so damn "catchy" & her hot little bod don't hurt either :nod:

I hate it too when a man gets all the credit for a hard working woman's success but sometimes it does happen :lol:[/QUOTE]

Really, I don't give two hoots about Shania Twain so I guess I'm not really all that invested in this but all I can think about is footage I saw of her before she made it big, and the girl could sing. She does have vocal talent, unfortunately she's been "tarted" up and packaged as a Brittneyesque pop icon (and maybe it was her idea, I don't know) in order for her records to sell. It's a shame really, but it's something that has befallen many women in pop music, even the talented ones. I suppose this is the biggest shame of all. And I guess I hate that her talent is overshadowed by her image and her husband's deux machina "hand of god" presence in her music. Did I say I wasn't all that invested in this topic? :laugh: :laugh:

I don't know if it was like this in the states, but when Shania was just breaking through, what got her noticed here in Canada, was not her voice but her midriff. She was the first country artist to show her midriff (I think it was the video for "What Made You Say That?" or maybe it was "Any Man of Mine" (whatever) but it got everyone talking here. Not a big deal to me but it was alittle shocking at first :shrug:

I never stated that people shouldn't get tax breaks, pal. I believe what I said was that I disagreed on a moral level with people donating to charities for the sole purpose of getting tax breaks. ;)

I don't give a flying fig what the charities get back tenfold, that isn't the issue. The issue is that I find it morally corrupt for these celebrities to take and demand such gifts for their appearances and the like. The ten grand that they're using to pamper celebs in hotel suites could be used to help someone who really needs it. But if you think it's fine for celebs to use charities for their own personal gain, that's your prerogative. :woohoo:

I never said she did. ;) We had a discussion about her and her diva antics on this very board over the summer, do a search. :wavey:

Split hairs all you want - blah blah blah :laugh: :wavey: :p

I agree!
 

I will, because I'm right and you're wrong. ;) :p :wavey:

Once again, if you think it's right for celebs to use charities for their own personal gain, fine. But I don't.

Bless your heart - you cannot see the forest for the trees :laugh: I am not arguing it is correct or moral for anyone to do what you assert (which keeps changing BTW :wavey: ) - I am just saying the charities have no problem with it (whatever "it" is) - if the stars get them tenfold the cost :cool:

And I am not arguing with that, nor have I ever. :wavey:

My only beef is with the acceptance and demands of such perks. Christ, your teachers must have struggled to work on your comprehension skills. ;)

It usually involved a chisel - yours, sadly, used powertools :wavey: :cool:

.....
Back to the original topic, Shania makes teeny-bopper music desguised as whatever "country" is nowadays. No wonder she sells so many records. I agree with Strand that Your Still The One was a great song though.

...And don't you two ever give it a rest?! :laugh: :wavey:

I've always loved this song. I think Shania is great. I watched her Behind The Music and she took over the care of her siblings when her parents were killed. She came across well to me.

Yes, I can diss a lot of the music, but I respect her for that. I couldn't imagine that when I first heard about it. I believe she was about my age when her parents were suddenly killed in that car accident. I absolutely cannot fathom getting up one morning and learning that both of my parents are dead and I have to be the strong one and become the head of the household. :distress:

Hillary

Yeah, and now look at the young, female country/pop stars today, they're all baring it and then some. Shania started a midriff baring revolution in country music! :laugh:

I don't know what footage I saw, but it wasn't Driven. I saw something from right before she hit it big, she was performing on stage somewhere and I think she did have bad 80's poof hair and bad clothing.