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golddustwoman77 07-12-2004 02:02 PM

It didn't have to grow on me at all. I really thought it was a terrific album from the first listen! :thumbsup:

Also, my best friend (who is a raging, Beatles fan) really liked the album. She would tell me truthfully, if she didn't. She was impressed when she listen to it, and she isn't the crazied, Mac fan that I am. Therefore, I think that is a good testment to the quality of the album. :D

Lala 07-12-2004 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Cristian
Speaking about restructured setlists I had to do one when I transfered this album to cassette since I only had a cassette walkman (you know ;)). I took out four of the songs on the album and changed the running order since I've always thought the running order is one of my biggest complaints on Say You Will. So it looked like this:

Side A
Bleed To Love Her
Thrown Down
Peacekeeper
What's The World Coming To
Smile At You
Red Rover
Running Through The Garden

Side B
Destiny Rules
Miranda
Say You Will
Steal Your Heart Away
Everybody Finds Out
Goodbye Baby
Say Goodbye

To me it works better... :)


Song of the moment - Man Of The World

Cool! I only have a cassette walkman too. I should try that. I just put them on the tape in their original order.

dissention 07-12-2004 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
That is so weird to me!! But you like Bette Midler, right? I can't believe you like Silver Girl better. That song makes me want to smack someone (stevie) around! And not in the fun way :D . But, everyone is different, and that's ok.
Tell me, do you like Running Through the Garden? I didn't like it as much until I noticed the kickin base line and the orchestral violins, or whatever. Also it has a good tempo for me...It took me a minute to realize how good it was, though. There've been many stevie songs where i was repulsed initially by the cheesiness and self absorbed, laughable, lyrics...only to be completely enraptured by them when i got used to them. And I do love her best, despite a bold dash for the finish line by Lindsey during my two front row seat concert experiences... :xoxo: anywhoo, moochas smooches!
Amber

I *love* Running Through the Garden. But, I must say, the demo is better. Those dueling vocals are AWESOME.

I know what you mean about some of Stevie songs, I feel the same way sometimes. Stuff like Two Kinds of Love, Ghosts, That Made Me Stronger, and After the Glitter Fades just drives me bonkers. But the rest is great. ;)

Silver Girl gets repeated a lot when I play SYW, I love her voice and the ending is among my favorites.

And, yes, I love Bette. She's the kind of chick you'd love to have a beer with in a seedy bar and tell filthy jokes to. :laugh:

MirrorInTheSky 07-12-2004 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by dissention

And, yes, I love Bette. She's the kind of chick you'd love to have a beer with in a seedy bar and tell filthy jokes to. :laugh:

OMG....the ultimate concert experience...Bette Midler opening for FM. I'd die.

estranged4life 07-12-2004 03:13 PM

Hmmm...
 
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Originally Posted by golddustwoman77
Also, my best friend (who is a raging, Beatles fan) really liked the album. She would tell me truthfully, if she didn't. She was impressed when she listen to it, and she isn't the crazied, Mac fan that I am. Therefore, I think that is a good testment to the quality of the album. :D

Yer best friend has great taste in music though, she's a cool Beatle trader & a fellow BZ member too :nod:

rezamatic 07-12-2004 06:12 PM

I think that one reason the album doesn't quite go over well with people at first is the track listing, like was said before. Sticking "Murrow" and "lllume" as the 2nd/3rd tracks was a risky decision. It just seems to me like they belong further down the line, possibly after Bleed to Love Her and before EFO. I feel that Murrow (even though I like the song) doesn't capture the feel of the rest of the album, and to have that as your second kicker on the album just doesn't work out. THEN to follow it up with Illume, Stevie's most artistic and left-field song (in my opinion) really throws you for a loop the first listening. Then it kicks into Thrown Down, Miranda, etc. and suddenly we're on good safe F-Mac territory.

Coming out of a long Gift of Screws period, I had already grown to love Lindsey's stuff and it did take me a while to get into Stevie's, but once I did the entire album (minus Silver Girl) was great for me. The length of it helps with those long commutes and weekend drives in the country. I head out until "Come"s finished and when I get to "Smile At You" I turn around and start driving back home :-)

diamondsnake 07-12-2004 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
ok, let me get this straight...you DON'T LIKE Thrown Down, but you like Silver Girl and Illume? And dare i say it, Everybody Finds Out? And Say You Will?
I'm just trying to get a handle on your process, I don't think i've heard anyone else call Thrown Down "wretched" and in fact it was one of my first favorites. Silver Girl is a bit wretched for me...The whole thing is just very mysterious... :)
Amber

I know this isn't directed at me but Thrown Down is pretty boring! You think that Thrown Down is better then Illume and Everybody Finds Out? I think that is strange because it is pretty obvious those songs are stronger and have more of an edge. Just my opinion!

diamondsnake 07-12-2004 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawkeye
Can I just add I HATE when people make 12 song SYW's :laugh:

Me too! I love the whole album and would be mad if they took even my least favorite song off! I can listen to all 18 songs and don't even get the urge to hit the skip button! I say if you think it is too long just burn a condensed version and make your own cd!

diamondsnake 07-12-2004 06:28 PM

What's everyone's beef with Silver Girl? That song rocks!

Okay, I have a question- what is everyone's current favorite song on Say You Will?

Mine is RTTG.

Lala 07-12-2004 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by diamondsnake
What's everyone's beef with Silver Girl? That song rocks!

Okay, I have a question- what is everyone's current favorite song on Say You Will?

Mine is RTTG.

Hmm that's hard but my absolute favorite is probably RTTG...but closely followed by Red Rover, Silver Girl, Destiny Rules...and so on.

The great thing about SYW is that it's all good (IMHO). Although it seems like a lot of you don't share this sentiment, I can listen to the whole thing (although the Morrow guitar solo gets a little irritating after a while)

MirrorInTheSky 07-13-2004 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by diamondsnake
What's everyone's beef with Silver Girl? That song rocks!

Okay, I have a question- what is everyone's current favorite song on Say You Will?

Mine is RTTG.

Thrown Down is my definite favorite, followed by Running Through the Garden, and, well, basically the whole album.

amber 07-13-2004 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by diamondsnake
I know this isn't directed at me but Thrown Down is pretty boring! You think that Thrown Down is better then Illume and Everybody Finds Out? I think that is strange because it is pretty obvious those songs are stronger and have more of an edge. Just my opinion!

Yes. The melody and vocal are better, the phrasing is more melodic and dramatic, the words are more engaging and dramatic, the whole song is more passionate. A lot of it is as simple as the notes, for me, but still. And I like EFO better than Illume, but not as well as either RTTG or Smile at You or Goodbye, Baby. I do not think Illume has an "edge". at all. :wavey:
Amber

amber 07-13-2004 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by diamondsnake
What's everyone's beef with Silver Girl? That song rocks!

Okay, I have a question- what is everyone's current favorite song on Say You Will?

Mine is RTTG.

IMO, Silver Girl does not "rock". It oozes and floats and meanders.
A

Lala 07-13-2004 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by amber
IMO, Silver Girl does not "rock". It oozes and floats and meanders.
A

I like Silver Girl, not because it rocks...because it doesn't. I like it because it's soft and soothing, like a lullaby. In that quality it's similar to a little song I happen to like called Sara. :D

Cristian 07-13-2004 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by diamondsnake
I say if you think it is too long just burn a condensed version and make your own cd!

:wavey:

Hello, that's just what I did! I do think it's too long and I think some of the songs in there are pure filler. So what. Now I have a shorter version for all that matters. ;)


Song of the moment - Eyes Of The World

Lorraine 07-16-2004 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by diamondsnake
This is my favorite album, I think. Running through the Garden alone is worth the ten bucks it costs. That song is so rocking and just plain cool! :blob2:

RTTG still is my favorite though.

Yes I agree with you, RTTG is the best track on this album. It really does pack a punch.

I don't rate SYW much, very boring song. I also like Peacekeeper and Say Goodbye. I love the performance of Say Goodbye on the "Live in Boston" album. The way Stevie and Lindsey face each other and sing this to each other, almost like a lullaby, its so so sweet. The fans in the audience are in awe just watching them sing this track.

I really don't like Red Rover, it really bugs me when it comes on and I skip it every time. The song starts off ok but I don't like the chorus.

Considering they don't have CHristine, they have done a good job of this album.


Lorraine :) :wavey:

hypnotized 11-01-2004 05:38 PM

When I bought SYW, I unwrapped it and put it in my discman almost immediatey. I was prepared for the fact that I wasn't going to hear Rumours II. I was right. I liked it right away. It sounded fresh. I heard a band moving forward. They took advantage of Christine's absence and took their music in a more aggressive direction. It was Mac for the 2000's. I still play it on a regular basis.


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