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diamondsnake 02-22-2004 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by dissention
I'm a Madonna fan myself, but there can be no denying that she uses her sex appeal to sell her records. If she didn't act half as sexually controversial as she has, she wouldn't be here right now. Her career began (even though I know Johnny will disagree!) when she rolled around and faux-masturbated on the VMAs back in '85 to "Like A Virgin". It was smooth sailing from there.
Well I am pretty young, and wasn't even alive in 85, so the Madonna I am used to is the Evita/Ray of Light/Music/American Life/Children's books/Mother/Spiritual Madonna... a little more mellow then she once was, I suppose! And that is the Madonna I love.

The same applies with Stevie. I do not care for her crazy red rocks concert video, but love how she is a bit more mellow, as in The Dance and how she has been the last five years.

HomerMcvie 02-22-2004 01:44 PM

Here's a related quote from our own Bob Welch's website. He doesn't call her a whore, but Bob certainly doesn't seem FOND of her, now does he?
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(Madonna finally expiated her cartoon-kitsch-queen-shame by signing Morissette, in my opinionated opinion!)
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What to do? Don’t try for the big-time top-of-the-charts-gonna-be-a-household-word thing if the music you are producing, writing, or singing obviously doesn’t fit the mainstream. Try to find a niche of kindred souls, and be content to drive a Nissan and not a Rolls Royce. Because today “mainstream” is often a littered gutter, and “household words” are s---, f---, c--- and c---.

dissention 02-22-2004 01:48 PM

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Originally posted by diamondsnake
Well I am pretty young, and wasn't even alive in 85, so the Madonna I am used to is the Evita/Ray of Light/Music/American Life/Children's books/Mother/Spiritual Madonna... a little more mellow then she once was, I suppose! And that is the Madonna I love.
And that is the Madonna that hasn't gone over well with the public. It was okay in the beginning (Ray of Light) because people saw that as just another reinvention, then she came out with the tepid Music, which did okay but not as well as Ray of Light. Then she came out with the disastrous American Life (her worst selling album) and the public just stood back and heckled. Now, she's trying to balance motherhood with smut and it isn't working at all.

What she needs to do is make a good album again, do a bit of minimal titty flashing ( :laugh: ), and trash the motherhood bit. She's just become boring, IMO. :)

wondergirl9847 02-22-2004 01:54 PM

My fave Madonna era...
 
I love the 80's Madonna, the Papa Don't Preach, Open Your Heart, Material Girl Madonna. :nod:

I bought her Ray of Light album, which I do like, but I've only listened to it a few times. I didn't like Music, American Pie or American Life. :distress:

I miss the 80's. :(

strandinthewind 02-22-2004 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by Johnny Stew
I was a little harsh in my earlier dismissal of Sammie; her songs do run the gamut of emotions... from A to B! ;)
Smart Aleck :laugh: AND no cite to the source? :wavey:

marc402 02-22-2004 07:35 PM

I like madonna!!
been a fan since '95
and indeed if she was so bad and bla bla she would not still be succesfull and still around
I am one of the view who actualy likes american live (it came out the same day as say you will btw) and although i did play say you will first i have grown to love american life too.

To get back to her tour i think she does a great show
i went to paris to see her in 2001 and it was an overwhelming experience. It was only during "music" when there is a screen behind her featuring career highlights it reaaly got trough to me to wat a legend i was watching.

i only have 4 big idols

fleetwood mac (oke oke so there 16 ;) )
and
Madonna
(the others being steven spielberg and Erik von detten but since the first is director and the second an actor they don't mater here )

so i would definately see the madonna show
especialy if you don't have to miss out on FM shows
because the FM concert i saw was the best night of my life :)

tommer 02-25-2004 10:36 AM

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
madonna's tour ends in TEL-AVIV!!!
4 concerts!!!
:blob2: :blob1: :lol: :]

(note: since my last madonna concert i've seen 3 fleetwood mac's. i'm legit)

diamondsnake 02-25-2004 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by dissention
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Then she came out with the disastrous American Life (her worst selling album)

Okay, I just got this album last night but have already listened to it a half a dozen times. I really, really like it actually! Maybe I was expecting a really bad album because of what everyone was saying, but I thought there were some great songs on it. My favorite is that Nothing Changed song, where the big church chorus comes in at the end. Love Proffusion, the tittle track, hollywood, die another day are also excellent!


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