Re: Going with the flow...
 

Dooooood! That's the only song I like. Of course, I prefer Johnny Cash's original.

I believe she only played it at a few shows and then stopped. There's a thread about it over on the Stevie board somewhere...if I can find it, i'll post the link.

Re: Re: Going with the flow...
 

EGADS MAN!! It sounds like a frickin CARNIVAL!! LOL

I haven't heard Johnny's version.

In the grand tradition of Stevie and her Stevieisms :laugh: in the Timespace liner notes she she sang it once and then never again :shrug: :laugh:

Hey, I never said it wasn't a Rumours friendly set! All I asked was whether the new fans responded well to the old numbers, that is all. I asked this simply because I've seen so-called fans react badly to new Stevie and Lindsey songs, so I can't imagine how they would react to old blues numbers if they can't handle that!
Oh dear...

Thanks for that David. :)
The newspapers here in Britain (as in the broadsheets, I don't know about the tabloids!) don't tend to put quotation marks around any title whether it be a song, book, film or whatever. I'm kinda used to that. If you use capitals for all the words in a title (ie Tango In The Night rather than Tango in the Night) then you shouldn't need quotation marks, but as you said it's all down to house style!

Let's be honest, Stevie was so out of her head during the RAL tour, she probably doesn't remember what sang!
:laugh:

I think in general the crowds did just fine with "I Loved Another Woman," "Stop Messin' Round," etc. Sure, there's the usual constant dribbling of people in & out going on throughout the show, but that happens even during "The Chain." I saw many "Tango" & "Mask" shows & didn't notice any problem with any song in the set. Aside from the major fans, Fleetwood Mac audiences don't get so passionately worked up over the set list anyway. People come to hang out at an FM concert & just enjoy themselves; I don't think the mob cares all that much whether Mac plays "Gold Dust Woman" instead of "Rhiannon," or substitutes "I Loved Another Woman" for "Gypsy."

Fleetwood Mac worries overmuch about squeezing in all these hits every year, believing that otherwise hordes of people will ... what? riot? Ain't gonna happen, folks. All Mac has to do is just play a bunch of songs, & most of the crowd will go home content & smelling of beer.

Or, someother substance. :laugh:

Here's an unusual perspective: I actually believe that Stevie was a lot more "out of her head" during her 1983 tour than she was in 1986 on tour. My overall impression of her from 1986 (& I saw her a bunch of times) is that she had more alcohol in her system than cocaine. She was bloated & frowzy & quite striking in a cryptlike way, & couldn't summon the chops to soar vocally but nevertheless pushed her vocals to an amazing raggedness & yet generally seemed "all there" mentally.

But three years before that, she was as high as a kite from start to finish (I saw the California shows), giddily chatting like a bipolar patient (she literally could not shut up--the motor nerve to her mouth had been hot-wired) & she was able to summon up the most unusual & amazing vocal pyrotechnics without the least bit of effort. THAT'S cocaine.

My friends Susan & Patrick went to the Iron Maiden show at Universal Amphitheatre two weeks ago, & they said some drunken asshole in the row behind them actually pee'd right where he was standing! They had put their drinks on the floor by their seats (as we all do) & of course so much for that.

In their case, they went home with their pants legs smelling of urine. Mad as hell, too.

RIGHT!!!! I knew I had read it somewhere.

Keep in mind that newspapers have style rules that don't apply to any other form of writing. Most of these rules result from space constraints. Some of the more esoteric ones result from the old style of printing with letters made out of lead. This is where the newspaper-only term "lede" (the first paragraph of a story) comes from. It is spelled that way to distinquish from lead, as in metal. Another rule is reporting that someone pleaded "innocent" when the person actually pleaded "not guilty" in court. The reason for that is just in case the "not" fell out, the paper could find itself in a libel situation.

Now back to your regularly scheduled Fleetwood Mac discussion...

I can't remember the exact quote (believe it or not!), but I believe Stevie was referring to the fact that she only sang "I Can't Wait" that one time in the studio and "never again," because that first vocal take was the one they used.

She was referring to recording the song, so I never read it as if she meant she never sang it again anywhere... just not in the studio. :)


As for "I Still Miss Someone (Blue Eyes)"... I think that song has one of Stevie's absolute best vocals on the entire 'Mirror' album. So emotive and affecting.
The way she sings, "well, there's someone... someone for me somewhere... but I still miss that one," is heartbreaking.

But the production definitely did the song a disservice, and is a glaring example of how cold and stilted Rupert Hine's preoccupation with synths and drum machines, could sound.

On 'Rock A Little' and 'The Wild Heart,' the synths (which is a sound I actually like) are balanced with acoustic instruments, and it works to great effect, IMO.

Here is what she said:

Inspired by Rick Nowels

I think this was about the most exciting song that I had ever heard. My friend, Rick, whom I had known since I was eighteen and he was thirteen, brought over this track with this incredible percussion thing, and gave it to me asking me if I would listen to it and consider writing a song for it...I listened to the song once, and pretended not to be that knocked out, but the second Rick left, I ran to my little recording studio and wrote "I Can't Wait." It took all night, and I think it is all about how electric I felt about this music...And that night, that SATURDAY night, Rick and I went into a BIG studio and recorded it. I sang it only once, and have never sung it since in the studio. Some vocals are magic and simply not able to beat. So I let go of it, as new to me as it was; but you know, now when I hear it on the radio, this incredible feeling comes over me, like something really incredible is about to happen...

To understand this song, you sort of have to let yourself go a little crazy...love is blind, it never works out...but you just have to have it...

I can't wait...
________________________________________

Hooray for Johnny Stew!!!!!

Also, Johnny - I agree La Nicks' vocals on "I Still Miss Someone" are heartbreaking and a testament of what she could still do even then :cool:

Sort of an off-topic remark, I think I might have to agree with ChiliD here... The Other Side Of The Mirror, to me, is Stevie's weakest offering. Except for a couple of songs ("Rooms On Fire", "Juliet" and "Alice"), the problem of the production is never solved. It's an album that makes me feel tired.

I am listening to it right now, hence my 'song of the moment'.


Song of the moment - Fire Burning

The thing that's always puzzled me about "Rooms on Fire" is, why doesn't she just get the hell out of that room?

LMAO!!
 

Stop, drop and roll, Stevie!!!

:laugh:... problems with fire... now her walls are flaming... what will happen next.



Song of the moment - Fire Burning

There was no fire burning - it was just a soul crying :cool:

She took too much Klonopin and can't move her feet.

Sounds like a medical problem to moi. :eek: :laugh:

The poor thing just can't escape those hot-flashes no matter which room she's in! :laugh:

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Why on Earth did they drop 'Rhiannon' from the setlist? I remember that in Mick's book he talked about how Stevie refused to let them play 'Rhiannon' in concert anymore.

Just weird...

(FYI, I am on hold calling the White House as I type this, I called the WH comment line to let the President know that a Constitutional Amendment to ban gay marriage would be the fist time an amendment was used to discriminate against an American citizen.)

LOL! " Stop drop and roll Stevie" That's funny.

Anyway, the topic was the TITN and I really think Lindsey bailed without giving too much thought.

Who makes an entire album, then the videos and then let's them get the tour started and then just says, sinara! I think he just freaked out for some reason, maybe a reason we will never trully know.

I was all of 10 when that happened and 1987 there was too much going on that I had absolutely NO idea this was happening or a tour. This just went over my head and I have no recollection of it at all.

Thank GOD The Dance happened! ( no underline or quotes hahahahahaha! REBEL!)


*****
I hate when people knock RAL. It like is a burning spear driving into my heart. I adore this album so much. I can listen to RAL and OSOTM so much easier than her first two albums, I don't know why...not saying they are critically better, but the latter two are just easier to sink in to? Maybe?

I love hearing about shows that I was too young to see. Stevie always said during the RAL show that she had to get OFF coke and only would do a very little. I guess it would be alcohol making her act "different". And she was bloated.

As for the WH tour, you just watch her tv appearances and it always seems her eyes will just fall out of her head they are spinning so much. But I love that..that excitement and energy. I just pretend she drank a few Red Bulls

Maybe it had to do with her voice. I know that during that time, her voice was changing GREATLY during the RAL/Tango period; maybe it was too much of a strain to sing it every night. Don't forget that she didn't do it on the OSOTM tour, too.

As for the White House comment line, I have that sucker on speed dial. I'm surprised the Gestapo, er, Secret Service hasn't knocked on my door to escort me to Gitmo after some of the calls I've made. :laugh:

I remember she sang the first two lines of it a capella at the Houston show.

This is enlightening; I'd always assumed Stevie sang "Rhiannon" for every tour with or without Fleetwood Mac. If it's not all that sacred, why are they still playing it, I wonder?

I agree that it was unprofessional and downright lame of Lindsey to bail on the tour when it had been booked. All of this "survival move" stuff - I think he would still have survived if he had waited until AFTER the tour to leave Fleetwood Mac. Unless he was afraid of actually having to deal with Stevie for more than a couple weeks, lol.

I don't like OSOTM and RAL very much. On RAL, "Talk to Me" is great, and holds a soft spot in my heart as my intro to Stevie Nicks (although my obssession came much later, lol). The rest go from moderate ("I Sing for the Things", "I Can't Wait", "Has Anyone Ever Written...", "Rock a Little", "No Spoken Word") to tolerable ("Some Become Strangers", "If I Were You") to wretched ("The Nightmare", "Imperial Hotel", "Sister Honey"). Sorry Johnny!

OSOTM is a little worse, I would say. I love "Ooh My Love"; as for "Rooms On Fire", "Two Kinds of Love", "Whole Lotta Troube" and "I Still Miss Someone" - they're OK. The rest go from bad to worse.

I don't think Street Angel is much worse, despite what Stevie says.

But TISL... aaah. MUCH better!

I would've pitched a fit if I was in the audience. :rolleyes:

She was wasted out of her head. She sang it and then said something like "She's not here tonight?"

:nod:

They edited it out of the radio broadcast, though. Surprisingly, she also did the same schtick at the San Jose show. She must've enjoyed torturing the audience. I also loved the fake tears/crying bit that she did at every show during HAEWAFY when she talked about Woodstock. It got downright laughable. :nod:

That was all shtick she repeated at a number of shows, including Shoreline Amphitheatre in Northern California. Sing the first line & then tell the crowd to "finish it."

Silly, silly, silly.

:nod:

That tour was built on the ridiculous.

Good question. As far as I know, her only "sacred" song is "Dreams." I think she's performed that one for every Fleetwood Mac tour & every Stevie Nicks tour since the song was written. I don't think any other song in her catalog has had that sort of staying power, or has that sense of "We MUST play this" for her.

The Fleetwood Mac equivalent from the post-Welch era would be "Go Your Own Way," which Fleetwood Mac played on every tour with Buckingham (even before it was recorded) as well as three tours without Buckingham! Also appeared on Buckingham's solo tour.

Of course, we know that "Oh Well" USED to carry the honor of being the all-time "sacred" Fleetwood Mac song, until (I assume) Lindsey broke the chain on The Dance tour.