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BellaDonnaGypsy 08-04-2003 03:42 PM

I'll explain... and it wouldn't happen at Good Charlotte... their concerts are full of little kids.

Susie is talking about a ring pit. It's where a group of people get together in a circle and attempt to run full tilt at one another, sending people crashing in all directions. It's not just 'dancing', like moshing is. It's an attempt to cause chaos and hit people, although it usually stays within the circle. As long as you don't get caught up or pulled in, you're alright. I got dragged into one by some moron during a set at Reading Festival a couple of years ago. I had platform boots on, so I just kicked my way out of there... I found it quite amusing, but it's what you expect at an alternative music festival. If you go up front, that's what's going to happen. You wouldn't get it at a Fleetwood Mac concert... I would hope. I can see how that sort of thing could be really alarming to some people... like I said, I wasn't sticking around... I don't like to socialise with idiots in white boiler suits who are so off their heads that their pupils have gotten zip codes. A strange phenomenon indeed, and one that should remain part of the scene from which it originated.

Laura.

BellaDonnaGypsy 08-04-2003 03:44 PM

Oh, and you think that's bad? I just hope no one decides to revive gobbing... ;)

Laura.

GardenStateGirlie 08-04-2003 07:31 PM

Gone for seven days on vacation and this is what I have to come back to? If I were Stevie, I probably would have thrown my tambourine at them in complete and total disgust. I mean, for crying out loud, it's FLEETWOOD freakin' MAC not Metallica or some hardcore band where activity such as this does occur---and shouldn't--but nontheless does--on a regular basis. Security won't let us fans move up to the stage unless we're in the front row but by golly, you can kick the **** out of each other and until somebody looses a limb, it's like, all good (I know no one lost a limb--it's another one of my sayings).

I really hope that the bad impression Reno left on them does not carry over to other shows. I would hate to see them hold back and for Lindsey to not allow people play his guitar, for Stevie to be even less interactive with the crowd than she has been (I think she was finally starting to come out)...etc on account of some morons who used some really bad judgement...perhaps no judgement at all even. It would just be a shame to think that peoples drunk, senseless acts would ruin things for everyone else.

WednesdaysChild 08-04-2003 07:35 PM

Too true Marissa! Maybe you need to get New Jersey on these stupid people's asses! :laugh:

GardenStateGirlie 08-04-2003 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by WednesdaysChild
Too true Marissa! Maybe you need to get New Jersey on these stupid people's asses! :laugh:
That's right...I've got Garden State vegetables...and I know how to use them!!! I'll lay the smack down!!! :D This is seriously...it's appauling...I can't even believe it....two rows of drunk people?!?! Beating the crap out of each other??? Krikey...WWF called...they want to hire ya'll....sheesh. And Stevie has every right to be sensitive...can you imagine being on stage, looking down and all the sudden seeing bloody people screaming at one another, throwing punches?? Oh, it must have been fabulous....I would've been pretty freaked out too.

sodascouts 08-04-2003 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by WindingRoad
Sorry, I didn't explain that well. What I'm talking about is nothing at all like Stevie allowing people near the stage. This is ALL the people on the floor of the venue running around in a circle. In addition to the fights, people can get trampled.

I'm not sure "mosh pit" is the correct term. Maybe somebody younger could explain it to you. It wouldn't happen at a classic rock concert. It would be one of the newer bands, like Good Charlotte or something.

susieq :wavey:

I happen to be 28, which I don't yet consider old, and I know what a mosh pit is. I thought you were doing a little exaggerating for dramatic purposes by calling that a mosh pit, and that is why I put the term "mosh pit" in quotation marks - meaning I was using the term ironically, realizing that it really didn't describe the situation.

But thanks anyway.

David R 08-05-2003 03:10 AM

I have been in a mosh pit before and it isn't all that great... Just stay out of the way... I wish Fleetwood Mac would have a mosh pit... Just a bunch of old people standing around... hehe... ;)


by the way I read that review on the other board... it was really sad to read how Stevie was so upset about it... and couldn't sing and started crying... if I was there I would have cried seeing her cry... and I never cry... :distress:

estranged4life 08-05-2003 05:19 AM

Hmmm....
 
".. listen to the Wild Heart Oklahoma City bootleg, and you can hear the fans pushing and screaming, obviously a few getting hurt.. Stevie walked off stage and refused to come back until things settled down.. she doesn't want to see people get her.. and the band was so tight that night, that they seemed to be feeding off the music..they even broke down the front of the stage. Imagine if the stage had collapsed. What a disaster..

Stevie's scolding of the crowd and refusal to perform until things settled down were appropriate in making sure people didn't continue to get hurt... good for her."

that didn't really work for the Fleetwood Mac show in 1982 when a riot broke out at the Myriad during the show, But then that explains why up until this year why FM skipped OKC...We're just too rowdy y'all...

As for a video of the Reno show...Just wait, "something" will eventually appear...

Brian j.

Nicks Fan 08-06-2003 08:43 PM

It makes me so mad to hear that in this day and age people still act like idiots. I wonder if people will grow up. I sincerly doubt it. Poor Stevie. It must have been distressing to see what was happening.

flyfirefly 08-06-2003 11:38 PM

This is all so crazy.

Selfishly, I hope this doesn't screw up the tour for the rest of us. I was pushed around and hit a few times on the row in Nashville by a few women who made 5-minute beer runs.

It was all good though. One of the women came and apologized after the show was over.

Besides, Stevie had her eye on me ;)


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