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wondergirl9847 07-14-2003 09:38 PM

Amen Frostie!!
 
If they hit every single note perfectly and if Lindsey struck every guitar chord perfectly, and they were all just friggin perfect, I'd be left cold....I don't want perfect, I want entertainment and humanity. I get CHILLS when Lindsey or Stevie's voice cracks, because that says to ME....they are into it....they are straining so much to get the emotion out of their mouth that it's hurting to do so....THAT is GREATNESS!!

Cammie 07-14-2003 10:14 PM

L A Show...
 
:wavey: Christy! THANKS for your very interesting F Mac thoughts!
The whole band and even the backup ppl seem to be really
giving IT all they got!Hearing that Lindsey's wife and kids
are there as are John's and Mick's tickles me!!!They are ALL
Old Geeksters...as Mick called them!!!Pray they stay well!:)
:) Cammie :)

WednesdaysChild 07-14-2003 10:32 PM

Wait a sec, where is Christy's review with the stuff about Mick, John and Lindsey's kids? I LOVE hearing about the little Macsters!!! I can't get enough info about them!

wondergirl9847 07-14-2003 11:03 PM

Jen...
 
What do you mean? I saw LeeLee at the Dallas concert off to the side of the stage, but she's the only Mac-kid I saw. She was ADORABLE...the way she looked at her daddy....SO CUTE!! She's gonna be on the stage soon, I'll bet. Hehe.

CarneVaca 07-15-2003 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by frostie
I just wanted to add that I am 31 years old and there is no f---ing way that I could get up on a stage in front of 10,000 plus fans every night (or every other night) for 5-6 months straight and sing my heart out perfectly.
Give me the chance and I'll do it. I'm sure it would be far pleasanter, though not necessarily easier, than editing copy all day in a crummy cubicle.

I would take the adoration of thousands of fans any day.

WednesdaysChild 07-15-2003 08:34 AM

Christy,

This is what I mean:

Christy! THANKS for your very interesting F Mac thoughts!
The whole band and even the backup ppl seem to be really
giving IT all they got!Hearing that Lindsey's wife and kids
are there as are John's and Mick's tickles me!!!They are ALL
Old Geeksters...as Mick called them!!!Pray they stay well!
Cammie

Where did you post about this? Or is this a mistake? LOL I'm so confused...

LeeLee IS adorable...those pics in People were too cute!

strandinthewind 07-15-2003 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CarneVaca
. . . I would take the adoration of thousands of fans any day.
Strand replies humorously, tongue in cheek, and in his best deadpan tone -

" . . . and I thought the absolute adoration of most, if not all, of us Ledgies would be enough - some people - SHEESH :rolleyes: "


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

cliffdweller 07-15-2003 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WednesdaysChild
All I know is that she doesn't seem as chatty as she did during both Enchanted and TISL...I just pray that she doesn't get really sick from being so tired and going through menopause.
I noticed this too, Stevie was WAY more talkative during TISL. I think when she hooks up with F.M. she let's Lindsey take over the commentary and she fades into the background a little bit. It's pretty much always been this way from day one and i don't know why it should change now. It's just her personality. However, she does manage to shine (still) with certain songs and steal the show, for example her performance of Stand Back, needless to say, I was in total awe. Stevie's not so much into the banter between songs like Lindsey is, and usually she delivers in her own way with dramatic performances of songs; creating/sustaining that aura of mystery and intensity. Yeah, she's older now and less energetic on stage, but she still manages to enraputre her audience, I had my eyes glued on her the whole time. The mysterious aura is still there, it's a little wisened now, but it's still intact.

cliffdweller 07-15-2003 10:12 AM

Sorry For The Double Post...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Sugar
Stevie plateaued years ago IMHO. I mean, I still think she's cool, but Lindsey is easily the more dynamic of the two these days. But that happens in life...people switch roles..it's not a value judgement...
I wonder if that has more to do with Lindsey's constant need to grow and experiment as an artist and Stevie's reluctance to change too drastically and hold on to the same musical formula.

CarneVaca 07-15-2003 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by strandinthewind
Strand replies humorously, tongue in cheek, and in his best deadpan tone -

" . . . and I thought the absolute adoration of most, if not all, of us Ledgies would be enough - some people - SHEESH :rolleyes: "


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Well, one must continue to set new goals. ;)

Johnny Stew 07-15-2003 12:11 PM

I just finished watching Good Day Live (actually, "suffered thru" is more like it), and they featured some footage from one of the band's recent shows... I'm assuming one of the LA shows.

Anyway, Stevie looked like she was having a good ol' time in the clips they showed (from "Go Your Own Way" and "Say You Will").

She didn't seem to be lacking in energy or enthusiasm, and as they showed Lindsey kneeling at the edge of the stage (which I'm sure is a total rush for the live audience witnessing it), my eyes were still on Stevie in the background bashing away at her tambourine, bopping her head, and just basically doing that voodoo that she do so well.

They both seemed to be "on," and it looked like a terrific performance. :)

wondergirl9847 07-15-2003 01:46 PM

WedChild...
 
I think Cam just meant in general, to hear about the kiddos. I'm assuming. :shrug: Has anyone seen Mick or John's kids or heard about them at the concerts?

WednesdaysChild 07-15-2003 01:52 PM

Christy
 
Oh I gotcha now. It can be difficult to follow these threads sometimes.

I've heard that Molly has been showing up with Julie to see John (probably more so now that schools out)...and I assume Lynn and Ruby and Tess are with Mick at all times, just like the mini-Bucks! Will Buckingham is the little prince of the mini-Macs, LOL, being the only boy!

wondergirl9847 07-15-2003 01:55 PM

LMAO!!!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by WednesdaysChild
Will Buckingham is the little prince of the mini-Macs, LOL, being the only boy!
*Dr. Evil voice* I shall name him....Mini Mac.

:lol:

beach~gypsy 07-15-2003 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Johnny Stew
doing that voodoo that she do so well.:)
heh heh :laugh: well said Johnnny Stew!! love it!

MACFAN 07-15-2003 07:17 PM

I dont know, Stevie seemed pretty hot on both nights in Los Angeles. :nod:

miriamswell 07-16-2003 01:08 AM

In the name of women and their reproductive systems everywhere who continue to walk, talk, drive, dress themselves, have sex and otherwise function, and yes, even *enjoy* life, let it be said that menopause is not the debilitating, wracking, disfiguring, madness inducing malady that has been described in the various posts dealing with Stevie's concert performances. I have tried so very hard to take the menopause effect in the spirit in which it is used -- heartfelt concern for Stevie's well being -- but I have reached my snapping point (and not only am I NOT menopausal, I'm not even suffering from PMS!:D) Are we concerned with Lindsey's male pattern baldness, hearing impairment, enlarged prostate and increased nocturnal urination? I pray not. Yet these are all things common in men his age -- you might even call them symptoms of male menopause. I have said too much and before I say more, I beg of you no more about Stevie's uterus. Deconstruct her hair, her boots -- or lack thereof, her voice, her grammar, her temper, her dress and let her hot flashes be a secret she shares only with her dry cleaner.
~mim, creeping back to the lurking tree

Johnny Stew 07-16-2003 02:18 AM

Well... as I've said before, I have three aunts and my mother ALL currently going thru menopause, so I'm seeing first hand all of the mood swings, hot flashes, fatigue, etc., that they're suffering thru because of it.
That's not to say they're not enjoying life... it's just that they have these particular challenges at the moment.

Someone asked earlier in the thread how Stevie could possibly be going thru menopause at her age.... I have no idea about her particular situation, but one of my aunts is a year younger than Stevie, and the other is a year older, and they had both been on that hormone replacement therapy, until it was announced that it was dangerous to a woman's health. Once they discontinued that, all of the above symptoms came rushing on.

Perhaps this is what happened to Stevie?

4Buck 07-16-2003 08:09 AM

Stevie's going through all THAT? Now we know why Lindsey married a babe 20-some years his junior!!!

strandinthewind 07-16-2003 08:20 AM

I agree menopause should not be an issue. But, Stevie put it out there in a recent interview in which she said the tour and surrounding events were and were going to be difficult because she was going through menopause. So, while some women apparently are harder hit than others, Stevie says she is being hit pretty hard. I mean the bad hip thing could be directly related to her menopause and the effect it can have on bones, joints, etc. I am just saying I respect what she said and feel for her during this self admitted hard time. :cool:

sparky 07-17-2003 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by miriamswell
Lindsey's male pattern baldness, hearing impairment, enlarged prostate and increased nocturnal urination?
Oh man. Excellent. If my fifties are full of all of that, I am gonna be one crabby SOB. Talk about a bunch of bad business. Note to self - enjoy the next twenty years.

Gypsy-Rhiannon 07-17-2003 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WednesdaysChild


All I know is that she doesn't seem as chatty as she did during both Enchanted and TISL...

Stevie has always said that she isn't that comfortable talking to people when on stage. LOL! It's ok to sing to a few thousand folks but talking is harder apparently! Enchanted and TISL were solo shows... she had to talk to the audience cause she was the only one up there!

I find it funny how you can get two different reviews of the same show and one person will say Stevie sucked and the other will say she was magnificent! It is all down to personal taste I guess. I can't comment on this tour as I haven't seen any shows and doubt I will unless Mick remembers this little island where he was born;) I would love the oppertunity to see them and make a judgement but I know I will just be extatic to actually see them

Pip

strandinthewind 07-17-2003 05:19 AM

From the quasi-horse's mouth!!!
 
I reread Brett Tuggle's Q&A on this site. He opines on the issue of a more reserved Stevie with FM as opposed to a more vibrant Stevie when she is solo. Here is a quote from that (note - it is in the third section of his Q&A and thanks to Marty for getting this for us to enjoy!). He certainly would know more than our speculation :laugh:

Hi-- Thanks for taking the time! Seeing as how you toured with Stevie back to back on "The Dance" and "Enchanted" tours, did you notice a "change" in her between the two tours? Here's what I mean, "Fleetwood Mac" puts on a great show, but during these Stevie seems very reserved. When "Stevie Nicks" does a show she seems far more relaxed and seems to be having more fun. I realize that in Fleetwood Mac she is one of five and her solo shows are all about her. Maybe it's just me but she seems to have more fun solo than with the Mac, not to imply that Fleetwood Mac isn't fun for her, just that a solo show is where she really gets to spread her wings. Stevie's fans are a loyal bunch and we're happy to see her anytime we can!! Thanks again! (Allen Chapman, Stafford Springs, Connecticut, USA)


Hi Allen,
You are absolutely correct in your observation of the difference's in Stevie as a member of Fleetwood Mac and Stevie the "solo artist." Being fortunate enough to have worked with her in both environments, I was able to observe and work with her in those two worlds. First and foremost, she is ALWAYS Stevie when she steps on that stage and pours her heart out to the audience. Whether it is one of her songs or in the case of Fleetwood Mac singing harmony with Lindsey or Christine she always gives it her all. But there is a noticeable difference in Stevie in each setting. With the Mac she is a member of a group of other "band members" and therefore they share the spotlight as musical endeavors as a band. All members of Fleetwood Mac blend together to become one powerful entity. I know for a fact that Fleetwood Mac is near and dear to Stevie's heart and she loves being a part of that group, also she doesn't have to carry all the weight on her shoulders, the band shares that responsibility. The solo Stevie gives her the opportunity to do what she wants and for that reason she is able to have more freedom to call all the shots but it also puts a lot of pressure on her as well. I respect the fact the she really loves both worlds. Yes, it has caused friction in the past but to me she will always be adored by her fans because she is so great at what she does. I'm amazed at how much she still cares about there still being a Fleetwood Mac and not just saying "I'm going to just be a solo artist and the heck with the band." To me it shows her loyalty and true character that she still wants to work with her friends that have she has been through so much with and still cares about. I admire her very much for that. Take care and thanks for writing in.

. . .

Stevie seemed to be kind of reserved (reflective?) in some of the concert videos I saw from the Dance tour. Did you notice Stevie having a different attitude toward the Enchanted tour than she did during the Dance? My second question is: other than the televised MTV version, which was the most memorable Dance concert for you and why? Thanks. (Regina, Bronx, New York, USA)


Hello Regina,
I've described in detail a similar question about the differences in Stevie, one-fifth of Fleetwood Mac, and Stevie the solo artist. Rather than repeat mysel with my poor typing skills could you go back a day or so and take a look at the Q & A section. I think you'll understand my thoughts on that subject.

I'd have to say for me the most "memorable concert" on the Dance tour for me was The Hollywood Bowl show but there were many memorable shows. Just something awesome about finally getting to play The Hollywood Bowl that was cool. But the very first concert of the Dance was also amazing just to see the audience react to them being back together after so long. Priceless. (Just like the commercial.)

Bye bye,

Brett

WednesdaysChild 07-17-2003 08:20 AM

LOL about the Dr. Evil/Mini Mac comment... :D

As for Stevie and her menopause, it's not like any of the fans made up these stories. Stevie told People that she was going through it and that it was taking it's toll on her, but she was going to work through it. Some women go through menopause without so much a night sweat or hot flash, while other women really suffer. I'm not a doctor (and I don't play one on TV either, for any of you who remember that commercial), but Stevie has had Epstein Barr and I'm sure her immune system isn't the strongest. Something like menopause might cause her to not feel 100% or cause her to have a relapse.

And as soon as Lindsey starts talking about HIS problems, then we can start a whole new thread about THEM. (I think he is balding a bit, btw...) :laugh:

Johnny Stew 07-17-2003 02:34 PM

Re: From the quasi-horse's mouth!!!
 
Thank you for posting Brett's comments, Brett (I think I just confused myself)! ;)
I had actually forgotten he had discussed this.

Some of us find ourselves talking until we're blue in the face, trying to make certain points, so it's nice to have someone "in the know" backing up those statements with a first-hand account. :)

gypsysara 07-17-2003 02:50 PM

Well we all know Stevie is having "MEN-O-PAUSE" she hasnt had a steady guy in a while now.

She really fed off of Carlos & Brett last night doing "Stand Back". It was awesome. She was on fire. As were Carlos & Brett - they know the score. So "nak" to those who say otherwise! LOL! IMHO, of course...

WednesdaysChild 07-17-2003 02:58 PM

Hmm, I must have MEN-O-PAUSE too, LOL...

I've heard people mention Stevie's mystery man of 1997...who is this?? I've also heard she's dated a few men over the past few years, but never heard WHO they were ;)

gypsysara 07-17-2003 03:06 PM

I thought LB resurgence was in 97, the mystery man was 98?? Just my UNeducated guess. I also have no spoken word on who the gentleman is.


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