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jbrownsjr 01-20-2022 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1272146)
CHRISTINE PERFECT
Mean Old World
Get Like You Used To Be
I’d Rather Go Blind
Crazy ‘Bout You, Baby
I’m On My Way

CHRISTINE McVIE (Fleetwood Mac)
Say You Love Me
Think About Me
Isn’t It Midnight
Spare Me A Little
Don’t Stop

CHRISTINE McVIE (Solo)
Ask Anybody
Calumny
Got A Hold On Me
One In A Million
Easy Come, Easy Go

Now see if you can get this down to 5 best Christine songs of the moment.

michelej1 01-21-2022 01:42 AM

I won't name 5 but any list I made would include:

Hold Me
Calumny
SYLM

I am tempted to say Over My Head as well, but that might be one that changes depending on when you ask me. The other 3 would never change.

Macfan4life 01-21-2022 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by moon (Post 1272037)
Come on, you can't do only a Top 5!! I was trying to put 5 but only from the first albums with her I counted more! My Top 5 of Chris' angelical songs is:

- Brown Eyes. The amazing vocals of Chris at her best, with Peter's guitar at the end, and that hypnotic melody from the beginning
- Love In Store. A perfect way to open an almost perfect album. Lindsey and Stevie Nicks' backing vocals are simply a good complement to the song
- Come A Little Bit Closer. One of the most romantic and beautiful ballads I even heard!! Bob Welch solo, another good moment there!
- Hollywood (Another Kind Of Town). Chris at a more mature way, talking about her "negative"? to take part on the Time project. It has a good time extension, and pretty lyrics too
- Sooner Or Later. Simply perfect. One of her best songs ever. And it's incredible to know that she recorded it alone, just with a session guitar player and not so much, and then the rest added their parts and completed a truly masterpiece...

And my special mentions go to:
- Everywhere. A classic one, every year when I hear it I find it fresh and sticky!
- Over & Over. Another good one, to break the Rumours' atmosphere and introduce us to the Tusk days
- Homeward Bound. Christine as a rocker?? Yeah! A good rock song in a good album like Bare Trees.
- Wish You Were Here. (I said it before) The perfect way to close an almost perfect album. Long, emotional, and the piano mixing with the guitar is simply awesome...
- Warm Ways. One of my favourite ballads from FM, a good work of Lindsey on guitars

I like that you included Love In Store. It almost made my list. It has always been one of my favorite songs. The bouncy beat, the harmonies, and the lyrics make be melt :) Its pure pop perfection. I love how Chris bounces while singing it live. The band almost sounds like a doo wop band the harmonies are so good. Its a killer live too. I know the band spent a fortune on 2 videos for Mirage and the band was not getting along but it was a miss not to do a video for this song. In peak MTV time there were no songs in the top 20 without a video. A video could have launched Love In Store into the top 10. It was a huge medium to promote and get airplay. Of course the band did not mind, they wanted to hurry up and just finish the Mirage tour and go their separate ways.

Jondalar 01-21-2022 08:44 PM

With Fleetwood Mac
1. You Make Loving Fun
2. Songbird
3. Little Lies
4. Everywhere
5. Honey Hi

Solo
1. Got a Hold on Me
2. The Challenge
3. Friend
4. Love Will Show Us How
5. Northern Star (She didn't write but I really like it.)

michelej1 01-22-2022 06:12 PM

Yes, Northern Star is so beautiful. One of the main things that allow me to forgive Dan Perfect for his many offenses against humanity.

HomerMcvie 01-22-2022 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1272271)
Yes, Northern Star is so beautiful. One of the main things that allow me to forgive Dan Perfect for his many offenses against humanity.

Northern Star and Calumny take that album to the next level. So good!

bombaysaffires 01-23-2022 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1272271)
Yes, Northern Star is so beautiful. One of the main things that allow me to forgive Dan Perfect for his many offenses against humanity.

Hey now, hey now.... he did write Calumny.... :eek:

Without him we may not have gotten In the Meantime at all, and her vocals on that are fabulous. What happened between that and rejoining FM is one of life's great mysteries....

FuzzyPlum 01-23-2022 08:31 AM

Christine Perfect:
I'd Rather Go Blind
No Road is the Right Road
Gone Into the Sun
Let Me Go (Leave Me Alone)
Close to Me


Christine McVie (Fleetwood Mac):
Why
Brown Eyes
As Long as You Follow
Think About Me
Come a Little Bit Closer


Christine McVie (Solo):
Got a Hold on Me
Northern Star
Love Will Show Us How
Friend
Ask Anybody


Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie:
Red Sun
Carnival Begin

jbrownsjr 01-24-2022 10:07 AM

In The Meantime was an unexpected gem. :nod:

michelej1 01-24-2022 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1272285)
Hey now, hey now.... he did write Calumny.... :eek:

Without him we may not have gotten In the Meantime at all, and her vocals on that are fabulous. What happened between that and rejoining FM is one of life's great mysteries....

I know. Calumny is sublime. Her aching vocals are just perfect, too.

But his annoying guitar, background vocals and sound effects, made me think most of Mean Time was produced in the eighties.

And him and his auntie giving me a liar, jack of hearts, clown and shining knight all in one song was more than I could take.

jbrownsjr 01-25-2022 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1272296)
I know. Calumny is sublime. Her aching vocals are just perfect, too.

But his annoying guitar, background vocals and sound effects, made me think most of Mean Time was produced in the eighties.

And him and his auntie giving me a liar, jack of hearts, clown and shining knight all in one song was more than I could take.

I love his guitar on many tunes. You Are has some beautiful work.

aleuzzi 01-26-2022 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1272296)
I know. Calumny is sublime. Her aching vocals are just perfect, too.

But his annoying guitar, background vocals and sound effects, made me think most of Mean Time was produced in the eighties.

And him and his auntie giving me a liar, jack of hearts, clown and shining knight all in one song was more than I could take.

We live in different worlds, Michelej1. I thought Dan (and his auntie) did a GREAT job with ITM. I loved his spare, angular guitar work, especially on songs like "Anything Is Possible" and "So Sincere." And Liar is an awesome tune, albeit with possibly one too many repetitions. So yeah, your "offenses against humanity" are my "breath of fresh air."

jbrownsjr 01-28-2022 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1272375)
We live in different worlds, Michelej1. I thought Dan (and his auntie) did a GREAT job with ITM. I loved his spare, angular guitar work, especially on songs like "Anything Is Possible" and "So Sincere." And Liar is an awesome tune, albeit with possibly one too many repetitions. So yeah, your "offenses against humanity" are my "breath of fresh air."

Forgiveness gets better with each listen. Another tune I'm glad Linsdey didn't touch. The outro is sublime as well.

aleuzzi 01-28-2022 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1272395)
Forgiveness gets better with each listen. Another tune I'm glad Linsdey didn't touch. The outro is sublime as well.

That tune, along with Giving It Back, is perfection.

jbrownsjr 01-29-2022 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1272424)
That tune, along with Giving It Back, is perfection.

It really is a killer way to wrap up that album. So good! :wavey:

michelej1 02-06-2022 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1272375)
We live in different worlds, Michelej1. I thought Dan (and his auntie) did a GREAT job with ITM. I loved his spare, angular guitar work, especially on songs like "Anything Is Possible" and "So Sincere." And Liar is an awesome tune, albeit with possibly one too many repetitions. So yeah, your "offenses against humanity" are my "breath of fresh air."

For the most part, I don’t like the production on the album. Although, the superb quality of what was good outweighed the quantity of the bad.

At the time, I missed Christine so much that it didn’t matter. I was just glad to hear her.

FuzzyPlum 02-08-2022 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1272581)
For the most part, I don’t like the production on the album. Although, the superb quality of what was good outweighed the quantity of the bad.

At the time, I missed Christine so much that it didn’t matter. I was just glad to hear her.

I don't think any of her albums were produced brilliantly. Christine Perfect was too under-cooked and raw, Christine McVie was too saccharine and AOR, and ITM was too...bland.

aleuzzi 02-08-2022 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1272286)
Christine Perfect:
I'd Rather Go Blind
No Road is the Right Road
Gone Into the Sun
Let Me Go (Leave Me Alone)
Close to Me


Christine McVie (Fleetwood Mac):
Why
Brown Eyes
As Long as You Follow
Think About Me
Come a Little Bit Closer


Christine McVie (Solo):
Got a Hold on Me
Northern Star
Love Will Show Us How
Friend
Ask Anybody


Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie:
Red Sun
Carnival Begin

I love your list but am surprised by one song: “Let Me Go (Leave Me Alone)” which I’ve always WANTED to like for its ultra cool groove, but I couldn’t get past the wobbly vocal. Had she sung that song five years later it would have killed.

Macfan4life 02-09-2022 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1272644)
I don't think any of her albums were produced brilliantly. Christine Perfect was too under-cooked and raw, Christine McVie was too saccharine and AOR, and ITM was too...bland.

That's a good analysis. I remember Dick Clark asked Chris in 1984 with her experience why she was not producing her album herself. Classic humor Chris responds: Its easier to blame someone.

Her 1984 album was reviewed by the Pittsburgh Press in 1984. They liked the album but claimed it lacked musical muscle. The songs were not wimpy but with the ace performers of Eric Clapton, Lindsey Buckingham, Mick Fleetwood, and Steve Winwood, the album should have shown some power.

I thought that review was a little harsh but it popped in my head after reading your comments. She claimed she wanted to please her own ears and I think she accomplished that. She's not thinking commercial stuff but just good songs.

aleuzzi 02-11-2022 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1272661)
That's a good analysis. I remember Dick Clark asked Chris in 1984 with her experience why she was not producing her album herself. Classic humor Chris responds: Its easier to blame someone.

Her 1984 album was reviewed by the Pittsburgh Press in 1984. They liked the album but claimed it lacked musical muscle. The songs were not wimpy but with the ace performers of Eric Clapton, Lindsey Buckingham, Mick Fleetwood, and Steve Winwood, the album should have shown some power.

I thought that review was a little harsh but it popped in my head after reading your comments. She claimed she wanted to please her own ears and I think she accomplished that. She's not thinking commercial stuff but just good songs.

None of her solo albums are wholly satisfying but each of them has fine moments. Of the three, I think ITM the most consistent and enjoyable. The production is clean and spare. I don’t think it bland; rather, I sense its very spaciousness is meant to allow her voice and songwriting to take center stage.

The 1969 record is like a lot of records made by women singers at that time—a hodgepodge of styles, a buffet of genres. I wish that record had more minor-key blues tunes like “I’m On My Way” and more stax-inspired R&B tunes like “No Road.” I dig half of it a lot.

I dig half of the 1984 record, too, though the middle of side 2 falls flat for me, redeemed only by “Smile.” The California gloss of most of the record blunts her hook-writing edge. Still, “One in a Million” and “Ask Anybody” are incredibly appealing.

Macfan4life 02-12-2022 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1272725)
None of her solo albums are wholly satisfying but each of them has fine moments. Of the three, I think ITM the most consistent and enjoyable. The production is clean and spare. I don’t think it bland; rather, I sense its very spaciousness is meant to allow her voice and songwriting to take center stage.

The 1969 record is like a lot of records made by women singers at that time—a hodgepodge of styles, a buffet of genres. I wish that record had more minor-key blues tunes like “I’m On My Way” and more stax-inspired R&B tunes like “No Road.” I dig half of it a lot.

I dig half of the 1984 record, too, though the middle of side 2 falls flat for me, redeemed only by “Smile.” The California gloss of most of the record blunts her hook-writing edge. Still, “One in a Million” and “Ask Anybody” are incredibly appealing.

I agree. They are all solid songs and enjoyable. When 1984 was released, I loved it of course but the Sharpe collaboration almost made some of the songs sound country like Love Will Show Us How, I'm So Excited, etc. It was an odd sound for her I thought. But I really enjoyed it. I know she loved working with Sharpe and she did a good job with him. Looking back however, I wish she would have stuck to her guns and did only her songs and brought in a different producer. While I praise the album for not having any 80's schtick, the album could have improved with a few bouncy beats. Love Will Show Us How is a key example. While great in its final form, I think a good producer could have turned it into a much bigger hit. But then again, Chris was not looking for commercial super stardom. She was almost forced to do a solo album and wanted partners to do it with. She is the only member of Fleetwood Mac that I don't dislike any of their solo work. Nicks and Buckingham have plenty of solo stuff I am not crazy about. Some of her work may not be stand outs, but they are good songs and I think that is what she was going for.

macpai 02-28-2022 07:12 AM

At this moment:
I Would Rather Go Blind
Keep on Going
Love in Store
Got a Hold on Me
Temporary One

All-time:
I Would Rather Go Blind
Over My Head (Live)
Hold Me (Mirage)
Love Will Show Us How
Everywhere

Tried to make the medicine go down easier with an all-time five, but it didn’t work. I’d have to return to this thread five times with different songs for that.

nicepace 03-06-2022 10:33 AM

Impossible to choose five out of so many great songs. So I thought I'd list five from my favorite era, the Bob Welch years, because I love promoting that overlooked era of the band. In alphabetical order:

Dissatisfied
Homeward Bound [a song that features great piano and is criminally under-rated by most fans]
Just Crazy Love
Spare Me a Little
Why

I could also do a top five from the post-Bob Welch era, from her pre-FM era, and from the solo albums, but those are different lists altogether.

macpai 03-07-2022 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 1273164)
Impossible to choose five out of so many great songs. So I thought I'd list five from my favorite era, the Bob Welch years, because I love promoting that overlooked era of the band. In alphabetical order:

Dissatisfied
Homeward Bound [a song that features great piano and is criminally under-rated by most fans]
Just Crazy Love
Spare Me a Little
Why

I could also do a top five from the post-Bob Welch era, from her pre-FM era, and from the solo albums, but those are different lists altogether.

Solid list! So much so that I kinda want to see the others you mentioned.

Macfan4life 03-07-2022 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 1273164)
Impossible to choose five out of so many great songs. So I thought I'd list five from my favorite era, the Bob Welch years, because I love promoting that overlooked era of the band. In alphabetical order:

Dissatisfied
Homeward Bound [a song that features great piano and is criminally under-rated by most fans]
Just Crazy Love
Spare Me a Little
Why

I could also do a top five from the post-Bob Welch era, from her pre-FM era, and from the solo albums, but those are different lists altogether.

I too love the Chris/Bob era. Surprised your list has no songs from Heroes. IMHO Chris got better with every Mac album during the early 70s. She hit a peak on Heroes. Incredible album.

nicepace 03-13-2022 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by macpai (Post 1273173)
Solid list! So much so that I kinda want to see the others you mentioned.

I'll give it some thought and post those other lists soon.

nicepace 03-13-2022 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1273175)
I too love the Chris/Bob era. Surprised your list has no songs from Heroes. IMHO Chris got better with every Mac album during the early 70s. She hit a peak on Heroes. Incredible album.

Oh, I completely agree. It's just that I could only pick 5 songs and there just wasn't room on the list.


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