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Macfan4life 08-07-2015 05:55 AM

Its funny because one person's filler is another person's favorite song and vice versa :)
Somebody better not say Songbird is filler :eek:

SpyNote 08-07-2015 11:51 AM

For me, the only albums that do not have filler tracks are Fleetwood Mac and Rumours. Bare Trees comes pretty close. I wasn't a fan of Mrs Scarott's "Thoughts of a Grey Day."

jbrownsjr 08-07-2015 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1170855)
Its funny because one person's filler is another person's favorite song and vice versa :)
Somebody better not say Songbird is filler :eek:

There are a few that don't like it. :distress:

elle 08-07-2015 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1170855)
Its funny because one person's filler is another person's favorite song and vice versa :)
Somebody better not say Songbird is filler :eek:

lol. yeah. looks like many people are answering the question "songs i don't like" not "what is the filler".

nicepace 08-07-2015 03:31 PM

No Christine song is filler. Not a single one.

jbrownsjr 08-07-2015 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 1170885)
No Christine song is filler. Not a single one.

I used to think Honey Hi was. Then I took vocal jazz and vocal harmony and realized what a gem it really is. All three of them shine so brightly on this. Christine really nailed it with simplicity and yet it's not simple to do what they are doing.

aleuzzi 08-07-2015 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 1170885)
No Christine song is filler. Not a single one.

Amen. She has peaks and valleys but all of her songs seem deliberate and earnest in their intention.

I don't like Morning Rain, but it ain't filler, it just has a bad vocal (unlike the earlier BBC broadcast version).

I can't stand All Over Again from Time and Skies the Limit from Mask. But it's clear she herself saw them as featured tracks. Just not very good ones.

jbrownsjr 08-08-2015 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1170890)

I can't stand All Over Again from Time and Skies the Limit from Mask. But it's clear she herself saw them as featured tracks. Just not very good ones.

The arrangements could make these songs so good. But, the arrangement and her keyboard voice choices make my ears bleed. She went from warm, elegant soft rock to a casio.

secondhandchain 08-08-2015 12:04 AM

I don't think FM approaches any song as possible filler. They want every song to be great. Some maybe don't turn out that way but to label them filler is wrong.
It's funny most of the "filler" songs quoted are my favorites. "That's all for Everyone" for example. it's genius in my eyes.

redbird 08-11-2015 05:54 PM

"I Don't Wanna Know" immediately comes to mind. Yes I know that you can argue that if you didn't know the whole history with "Silver Springs" you wouldn't find it filler, but ... I think I would anyway. It's a nice song but feels out of place with the rest of the album, except possibly "Second Hand News". But Stevie needed a third addition so on it went. I tend to like to listen to it with tracks from the white album instead.

To me there is nothing filler at all about "That's Alright" or "Oh Daddy". I don't think Tusk has filler songs, it's not like there was any empty space that was crying out to be filled.

"Mystified" (though I don't dislike it) and "You and I Pt 2" certainly seem like lightweight compositions to me. "Oh Diane" is filler, even though I am not among its haters.

PenguinHead 08-11-2015 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Wdm6789 (Post 1170798)
Which songs do you guys think seem like filler, that could have been cut or replaced by a better song

Sugar Daddy
I don't want to know
Oh Daddy
Can't go Back
Oh Diane
Wish You Were Here


Well Tusk could have been cut down to 12 tracks. Do all the writers have good tracks on this album? Lindsey and Christine have the fillers, though all of Stevie's songs on Tusk are great.

There is no accounting for one's idiosyncratic tastes. I like all of those songs! I don't consider them as filler in any sense. Just because they don't meet a subjective standard doesn't mean they are taking the space of better songs.

Tusk was born out a deliberate artistic statement Lindsey wanted to make. Watered down to a standard 12 track album, it wouldn't have distinct allure which many have come to appreciate over time. Not every song on an album has to achieve universal appeal.

Tusk reminds me of the Beatles' White album -- a double album in which each member had their own specific moments. It's a eclectic group of songs -- not all them great, but as part of the greater whole, they amount to a very unique, distinctive album.

PenguinHead 08-11-2015 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1170890)
I don't like Morning Rain, but it ain't filler, it just has a bad vocal (unlike the earlier BBC broadcast version).

Where can I find the BBC broadcast version?

BLY 08-11-2015 09:49 PM

I Don't believe in " Filler Songs" at all. These are just the songs that aren't the most popular with the fans. I Don't Want to Know from Rumours is what got me into the MAC in 1976. To this day it's still one of my all time favorite tunes.

HomerMcvie 08-12-2015 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BLY (Post 1171042)
I Don't believe in " Filler Songs" at all. These are just the songs that aren't the most popular with the fans. I Don't Want to Know from Rumours is what got me into the MAC in 1976. To this day it's still one of my all time favorite tunes.

AMEN to IDWTK. Such a great poppy song. And the first guitar solo I ever learned to play. I wish Stevie didn't hate it.


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