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shackin'up 02-18-2004 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by Gypsy-Rhiannon
I didn't miss her at all on this tour. Personally I can't stand Little Lies or Everywhere and no doubt they would have been on the set list if she had been there

Pip

Well here's another one!

On the other hand, if they had put in Why, Wish you were here, Think about me, Never Forget, Believe, Brown Eyes and ended the show with that excellent outtake-version of You'll Never Make Me Cry, well maybe I would have missed her a lot. But since that is not the case....at ALL... I can live without those spinecringing hits from TITN....

HomerMcvie 02-18-2004 01:52 PM

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On the other hand, if they had put in Why, Wish you were here, Think about me, Never Forget, Believe, Brown Eyes and ended the show with that excellent outtake-version of You'll Never Make Me Cry, well maybe I would have missed her a lot. But since that is not the case....at ALL... I can live without those spinecringing hits from TITN....
And that's what I think none of them GET. That MANY of us would rather hear some different songs. Enough with Dreams, etc. Same damned songs, different tour. Oh, is that still the same dress? What's that smell?
But back to Chris. If she were to tour, and do Why, and drop Everywhere; do Never Forget, and drop Songbird, I think it would make for a much more interesting setlist.
Top five songs I'm sick of:
Dreams
I'm So Afraid
Rhiannon
Big Love acoustic
Mick's vest solo! I love WT, just hate the vest!:laugh:

Neal 02-18-2004 02:01 PM

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Originally posted by HomerMcvie

Mick's vest solo! I love WT, just hate the vest!:laugh:

Ditto! He should have retired that whole act years ago... :nod:

sodascouts 02-18-2004 02:02 PM

I don't miss Christine until the end. I wish there was still a Songbird.

Frankly I think World Turning is BETTER with Stevie, if not Don't Stop.

As for Rhiannon and Mick's Drum Solo - yeah, I could do without them. But if I didn't get to hear ISA, I would feel SO cheated. Big Love is such a masterful display I never get tired of it. I also am not that big a fan of Dreams, but I understand that it would not be a good idea to remove it. Most fans love it to death, and would feel the same way I would if ISA were gone.

Johnny Stew 02-18-2004 03:16 PM

I would have loved it if Christine had stayed in the band, but I don't feel that 'Say You Will' is in any way lacking without her.

Maybe fans who find themselves disappointed in 'SYW' because of Christine's absence, should look at it this way... you're not listening to a Fleetwood Mac album that's missing something; you're listening to a Buckingham Nicks album that has gained a killer rhythm section. :nod:

Besides, we still have Christine's upcoming solo album to look forward to! :D

HomerMcvie 02-18-2004 03:46 PM

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Maybe fans who find themselves disappointed in 'SYW' because of Christine's absence, should look at it this way... you're not listening to a Fleetwood Mac album that's missing something;
That's the problem. It's not a FM album. It's a BN album. IMO, Chris was what balanced it all out, literally what made it FM.

diamondsnake 02-18-2004 03:56 PM

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Originally posted by Johnny Stew
Besides, we still have Christine's upcoming solo album to look forward to! :D
From your lips to God's ears! I really hope this album sees the light of day.

Johnny Stew 02-18-2004 03:57 PM

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Originally posted by HomerMcvie
That's the problem. It's not a FM album. It's a BN album. IMO, Chris was what balanced it all out, literally what made it FM.
One could say that, but keep in mind that the "Fleetwood Mac sound" that we're specifically discussing... the block harmonies, the radio-friendly pop/rock, etc.... all pretty much came to fruition once Lindsey and Stevie joined.

To my ears, 'SYW' sounds very much like a Fleetwood Mac album, because it features all of the hallmarks of a classic Mac album.
I don't personally feel that it sounds like 'Buckingham Nicks 2'... it's merely my suggestion on how one could look at it, if they're disappointed with it.
But, in my opinion, all of the Mac production sensibilities are firmly in place, and it sounds like "Fleetwood Mac."
It's just a "heavier" sound in places, because the songs are more guitar-oriented without Christine there.

But there are plenty of block harmonies, glimmering sonic nuances, and radio-friendly touches, too. :)

marc402 02-18-2004 04:25 PM

I agree 100% with Johnny here.
I do miss christine and i do like her song (also the TITN stuff) and look toward her soloalbum
but i did not miss her on either the album or the tour.
Life goes on without chris in the band
besides i can always play old chris song whenever i want to ;)

macfan 57 02-18-2004 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by HomerMcvie
That's the problem. It's not a FM album. It's a BN album. IMO, Chris was what balanced it all out, literally what made it FM.
I completely agree with HomerMcvie here. Considering that SYW has really sold as if it's merely 2 Buckingham/Nicks solo albums, I think quite a few other people probably feel the same way. As for missing Chris, well since I don't care anything at all about the current line-up or anything that they're doing, I really am only listening to old Fleetwood Mac stuff anyway. So, I think of her as still being in Fleetwood Mac, kind of as a permanent member like Peter Green. I, too am really looking forward to her solo album.

RhainnonRings 02-18-2004 05:03 PM

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What are you talking about???

Of course its a FM album.

This pisses me off. If it weren't for Mick then there would be no Stevie or Lindsey. And I thin people tend to forget that and leave Mick and John out in the backround.

They turned SYW into a FM slbum because warners knew that Lindseys solo album would SUCK on the charts. And it would.

I miss Christine a whole lot. Theres not one song I skip of her on a bootleg or CD.

Jimmy

diamondsnake 02-18-2004 05:23 PM

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Originally posted by Johnny Stew
One could say that, but keep in mind that the "Fleetwood Mac sound" that we're specifically discussing... the block harmonies, the radio-friendly pop/rock, etc.... all pretty much came to fruition once Lindsey and Stevie joined.

To my ears, 'SYW' sounds very much like a Fleetwood Mac album, because it features all of the hallmarks of a classic Mac album.
I don't personally feel that it sounds like 'Buckingham Nicks 2'... it's merely my suggestion on how one could look at it, if they're disappointed with it.
But, in my opinion, all of the Mac production sensibilities are firmly in place, and it sounds like "Fleetwood Mac."
It's just a "heavier" sound in places, because the songs are more guitar-oriented without Christine there.

But there are plenty of block harmonies, glimmering sonic nuances, and radio-friendly touches, too. :)

I agree that it is a very heavy sounding FM album. It has always reminded me of TITN and I think it is ridiculous for people to compare it to Tusk, just because of its length. I can't see any musical similarities between the two.

chiliD 02-18-2004 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by RhainnonRings
Of course its a FM album.

This pisses me off. If it weren't for Mick then there would be no Stevie or Lindsey. And I thin people tend to forget that and leave Mick and John out in the backround.

They turned SYW into a FM slbum because warners knew that Lindseys solo album would SUCK on the charts. And it would.

It's not like SYW is burnin' up the charts as it is, though. :shrug:

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Originally posted by RhainnonRings
I miss Christine a whole lot. Theres not one song I skip of her on a bootleg or CD.
I still miss Peter Green, Jeremy Spencer, Danny Kirwan & Bob Welch, Rick Vito, Billy Burnette & Bekka Bramlett, too. Plus, after 31 years, I'm just starting to realize Bob Weston's contributions. Just add Christine to the list.

I prefer listening to Dave Mason as a solo artist...and Dave Walker as a member of Savoy Brown rather than Fleetwood Mac.

diamondsnake 02-18-2004 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by chiliD
It's not like SYW is burnin' up the charts as it is, though. :shrug:

Number three on the charts is not that bad!

chiliD 02-18-2004 05:52 PM

What chart?

It's not in Billboard's Top 100. That's pretty much the industry standard.


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