John and Christine's troubles with alcohol. Especially Chris, I guess. But I agree, one should not let external facts be in the way of admiring someone for his/her work. I love Christine anyway. :)



Song of the moment - Angel

Hmmm...
 

I guess I didn't reeally need to know about that hole in Stevie's nose (yeah, it's a part of her history, I know, but it's still kinda gross anyways...ewww), and I sorta wish I hadn't known about her boob job. No, make that her boob job REMOVAL years later...blechhhh! http://www.click-smilies.de/sammlung...oking_anim.gif

Re: Things you wished you never knew about a FM member?
 

I don't think there's anything I wish I didn't know. Let's face it, Fleetwood Mac's unique history is what makes them an appealing band to alot of people. Would I be as big of a fan as I am if they didn't have so many trials and tribulations? Maybe not.

Everything that each member has said/done has impacted who they are as people and musicians, and therefore impacted the band as a whole.

In response to some of the things people have mentioned in this thread, the band members are not unlike any of us. They are not without fault, and they've all made mistakes, or done things they wish they could take back. The difference is, they've been able to maintain a relationship with each other that allows them to put all of that aside and do what they love, which is making music together. It takes alot of inner strength to do that, and I envy all of them for it. It can't always be easy to forgive and forget.

Re: Hmmm...
 

actually, i'm glad i know cause it kind of explained the change in her singing voice.

i never knew about her "troubles" with alcohol....is this fairly recent? i know on the Dance best buy cd she said she still enjoyed having a glass of wine....maybe she quit drinking and maybe this is one of the things that Lindsey refers to as "taking care of some personal matters"???


yeah, that one took me by surprise although i don't regret knowing it.


Someone else was talking about her implants....i'd again have to say that i'm sort of torn in the middle on this one....actually, i lean more towards not regret knowing it....before she said anything i always noticed that her cleavage had changed dramatically through the years. i know she only had the implants done once. and i believe she said this was in 1976...it makes sense cause she was very small prior to this and then she was noticeably bigger but they weren't too big....however, in the mid 80's (around RAL) they got even more noticeably bigger....i know she had start putting weight on then and obviously that's what made them bigger too...but, Lord, she had some MAJOR cleavage in the early 90's....i had thought at that point that she had the implants to sort of balance out the rest of her body. Glad she had them out though.

:)

It's really a shame.

These are human beings who make mistakes.

I would shudder to think that even in my 25 years, if anyone would write a tell-all about me. No one is perfect, by far.

We all have our little addictions, one night stands, relationships and blow ups that we wouldn't want to share.

The entire Mick and Stevie thing-wrong but it happened. They are the ones to live with it.

Lindsey's last stance 1987-man, I am surprised he kept his cool as much as he did. Imagine ALL that anger he bottled inside since who knows when. Mick tells him that he slept with Stevie. Stevie slowly is killing herself with drugs and he has to watch her. His band is falling apart and he does what he can but never gets an ounce of credit. His own failing relationships and the pain of his father that he never could deal with. Being sick and touring. Never being able to make it solo. I mean all these things. He had money, good looks and fame, but thats never enough. That last day I can imagine how patronizing everyone was to him and I bet the day could have been worse. None of us were there though and I think everyone is at fault on that one.

I just wish that people realized that half of what we "know" are rumours and the other half is probably made bigger than what it really was.

But I wish people didn't know things about me either, I think it can be said for any of us.

Ok, off my soap box now. I know this was totally useless but I just wanted to put in my 2cents.

I will say, I love dirt too and I eat it up just like everyone. But we must keep it in perspective. These are real people ( I tend to forget that at times)

Rhiannon kick????
 

What's that all about????
Debbie

During the Tusk tour Lindsey would kick Stevie and mock her while onstage.... that's what I know of, not sure if it was on other tours too tho the chill is still apparent during Mirage.

That was not a regular occurance in their shows!! It happened one night when apparently emotions and tempers were running high. (no pun intended).

Even then, the only written account of this is in Mick's book and we know that doesn't hold any weight. :)

John

Wish I never knew....
 

......all the trash that was dug up from the cess-
pool for Mick's book! Mick... was the Dark Wing
in Sara and I wish I did not know Mick dumped
Stevie for her friend Sara Recor who he married!

I wish he hadn't made Stevie out to be perfect so
much and Lindsey to be the fall-guy! LB has to flip
the guitar cord to get it out of the way and Stevie
tripped over it and he started to kick it away and
... maybe...kicked her as she twirled too close!

The time he was so loaded he put his jacket over
his head and taunted SN ... that was poor taste!

Chris said LB should not have treated the paying
customers that way!!! Sensible Chris!! Miss her!:nod:

There is much more...but you all mentioned most!;)

I thought it was also mentioned in the 1997 Rolling Stone article on them.

Originally posted by Joem "i know she had start putting weight on then and obviously that's what made them bigger too...but, Lord, she had some MAJOR cleavage in the early 90's....i had thought at that point that she had the implants to sort of balance out the rest of her body. Glad she had them out though."

she did not have any implants put in at that time .What actually occured is that sometime after the "Shake the Cage" tour and before the release of TOSOTM Stevie had liposuction on her hips when she gained weight again the weight went to other areas.

This is very true! They put their pants on one leg at a time...and use the toilet just like the rest of us :laugh:

Reminds me of when my brother and I were reading the 'liner notes' in the Enchanted CD Box Set and Stevie wrote "...as usual I am sitting here in the beautfiul bathroom...my sanctuary...through the Good and Bad times, and many of my favorite songs have been written right here in this very room, the famous ones...the ones you hear on the radio..."

I starting laughing hysterically, 'cause all I could picture was Stevie 'on the hopper' writing..."I Can't Wait...":laugh:

Seriously folks...they ARE human...we may or may not agree with the choices they've made...but we can't really fault them too much...There is ALWAYS a second side to a story. I'm just grateful they've survived through all they had to go through and they all seem very happy and centered now...and that's the important thing.

That which does not kill us...makes us stronger.

Oops, I didn't know that, thanks for the heads up. As I say, I don't follow the personal stuff so much so... :)

John