well, and look carefully at some of the things Stevie has said about their relationship over the years "Chris and I didn't have anyone else to talk to" "We only had each other" i.e. in this world of all men.

By the time they get to even the recording of Rumours, Stevie had her coterie of girlfriends, certainly starting with Robin and then Mary (who Richard says met Stevie after she, Mary, started dating Richard and was hanging around them all the time) and her closeness with Chris changed to more colleagues in the band rather than personal friends who hung out outside of work and confided their secrets. Once the band circle began to grow and include more women, Stevie got her friendship from those other women more than Chris.

And of course Chris has always said about herself that she was more of a tomboy, that she loved the company of men and tended to hang out more with men. I just don't ever see Chris staying up all night doing her makeup and trying on different outfits and taking selfies.

Stevie will probobly do a North American tour behind 24 Karat Gold summer 2016. Then FWM will release a new album 2017. While she tours the rest of the band or Dave Stewart or Both can work on the new album.

They seem to like anniversaries. 1977, 1987, 1997 were all huge years. Those re issued Albums came out I think in 2007?

Yes, Stevie made that joke a few weeks ago saying she would ask Chris if she wanted to come and dress up and take pictures in the wee hours of the morning and Chris would say, "No, I'm good."

Michele

Nope, 2004. And still waiting on the next batch.

Chris clearly didn't consume the vast quantities of coke that Stevie did to fuel those all-nighters :woohoo:

Christine's return changed the balance in the band in a way that really was not favorable to Stevie. I mean, Stevie's individual success automatically gives her power in FM, but she already had that and keeps that. I'm saying that Christine's return doesn't give her anything more. Creatively, Christine doesn't side with Stevie in any band matters and never has. So, Christine being there doesn't give her a new ally on stage and in the studio. In fact, it gives Lindsey one. And it probably gives him two that he didn't have, because John probably tends to side with whatever Chris wants to do.

Even the SYW album probably wouldn't have been that much different with Chris around, other than the fact that Lindsey would have 6 songs instead of 9. Christine probably wouldn't have liked Come being on the album, but I doubt that she would have blocked it. With Christine contributing songs like SYHA herself, Lindsey would have been all the more intent on contrasting with her by adding Come, Morrow and Rover to the album, than he was without her there. So, Christine adds balance by her contributions, but she doesn't change Lindsey creatively.

She may change him socially though and her presence might make his personality more palatable, but even that is different than it was in the old days. I think that when Christine was gone, Stevie gained more power within the band than she had ever possessed before Christine left and Lindsey tried harder to please Stevie and to bite his tongue than he had in the past. They had to be more of a team, perforce, when Christine was not there than they do now.

I guess alcohol took the edge off of whatever coke that Christine had. But the energy that Stevie had was hilarious. You can see it in the Tusk photo shoot.

Michele

egads, about 5 minutes into the limo tapes and I'd be pushing her out the dam door. And to imagine her cocaine intake only got exponentially greater. :eek:

God you're so right. Listening to her talk had to make you wanna jump off a cliff. I remember when they were talking about Hold Me. And Christine was trying to tell her Lindsey is singing on one of her songs. And she kept saying, "I'm done I'm done.. "...

It's over. It's over. It's over.

At one point on one of the tapes Christine asks her if she can just be quiet for awhile.

Oh remember the video where Christine tells her to stop with the stuffed animal. Was it Bugs Bunny or some other toy? So funny.

Michele

Christine scolds Stevie to be serious... throws the bunny over the console.. then with a serious look says, "Warner Brothers... " then starts cracking up...

Poor Stevie. They scolded her all of the time.

In the Tusk photo shoot, Christine wanted her in the band line up and is like, "what are you doing over there. Get over here."

In the Tusk video, when Lindsey pulls on Stevie's dress for her to sit down, Christine leans over Mick and laughs with Lindsey as if to say, "I'm glad you said something."

And I laughed when Stevie said that Lindsey didn't want to look out the window of the recording studio and see her twirling a baton, during Tusk.

Michele

The body language of these people toward her is so funny, sometimes.

I remember during the Dance when Chris went to get a tambo and Stevie had an array of them and she was offering Christine one after the other and Christine basically had to push her off. I just want to grab a tambourine and get back to my mic. I don't want to make a production out of the selection process.

Michele

probably because, by her own account, she was totally high most of the time and thus out on planet Stevie somewhere. Someone needed to be keeping an eye on her. God knows left to herself what kind of trouble she'd end up in.

In the Tusk video when Lindsey yanks her back down, she's jumping around, waving her sun hat… in her high heeled shoes up in the stands. I was waiting for her to go toppling over and just rolling down the stairs of the stands. It's kind of a testament to Lindsey that he didn't just let her. Maybe if there'd been no camera…...:laugh:

Stevie buries her face in her hands and giggles sheepishly. She's kind of cute.

Michele

You know Bombaysaffires, you were saying earlier how effortlessly Stevie hit those high notes. I've thought the same way about her heels. She didn't just walk in them, she leaped. She could jump up at will as if the shoes had springs on them. In the Angel videos we have, you know she's just jumping almost as if she didn't have to bend her knees. She just thought about being off the ground and -- suddenly -- she was.

Now, when I see her walk across the stage in the ankle boots that are really chic, but too high for her, I can it's a strain. The increasing difficulty and effort is an analogy for a lot of things.

Michele

heck she could could karate kick in those suckers!

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Wow! I love this board, so many different views to consider. I want to disclaim right now that I have had a few drinks, so this post may be all over the place. I just have a bunch of thoughts about our band. First of all Stevie will definitely make an album with Fleetwood Mac. There is No way she would not be apart of that, I'd bet my life. I love Lindsey as an artist, and Stevie is no angel, but there is more to that than we will ever know because they are loyal. Everyone gets on Stevie, but it seems Lindsey was controlling, and she has hinted that he is still annoyed that she has a solo career. Honestly, if Lindsey had a sucessful solo career on the par of Stevie,we'd be having a different argument..

I'm glad you are enjoying your wine. I'm a red wine drinker and will admit I might have recklessly wrote few posts here while under the influence (I'm a sober insomniac at this moment).

Lindsey has always been a leader of sorts since the Buckingham Nicks era. His controlling nature is no surprise to Stevie. Yet to a certain extent, that trait has served the band well. Yes, they are a democracy, but they are also largely dependent on Lindsey's guidance and ability to meld all the disparate musical pieces together to form the whole.

I don't feel that any member of the band gives a sh*t about her career. Lindsey is not jealous of Stevie's solo success. His solo career operates on a alternative scale; his concept of success leans more toward artistic satisfaction rather than commercial achievement. I'm sure he wishes that he could profit more from his work. But he's not in competition with Stevie's career in terms of power. Stevie needs a village to realize her artistic visions. Lindsey needs no one.

Yes, I'm sure at least earlier he was disappointed in not being more successful but even so it never caused him to alter his artistic vision in the name of having more hits.

She used to rock those platforms!

Evil I tell you,just evil!!!!I knew there was something I liked about you:laugh:

Another member posted this video of them performing Landslide last night in Nashville, and I guess I just thought it was touching.



I get so frustrated in Stevie's demeanor towards the rest of the band sometimes, especially Lindsey. But then they have these little wonderful moments every once in a while and it makes me think maybe they're not as bad off as we all make them out to be.

And maybe it wasn't "genuine" and maybe it was...but it gives me a little hope that things aren't as tumultuous between them and that maybe they will be able to work together to give us at least one more album.

Regardless..it's nice to see these moments between them. I like when they're affectionate with each other (in a plutonic sense). I wish they could bottle these feelings and use them when they decide to make new music together again.