If any Log Cabin has "woken up", then they wouldn't be a Log Cabin anymore.

I only know what I have seen and Rome was not built in a day :shrug: I could not do it, but am glad they are at least trying because maybe one day it will have made a difference, which it has in the areas my friends have worked on.

And you wonder why I glare at my computer screen with amazement when I read ***** like this. You seem to think that all gays most agree with you in order to be a card carrying member!

You're right I'm sorry.

I'm just aggravated right now.

Well, he is pretty much 100% correct. Again, the R's want you in jail for a long long time for what you are. Have you accepted that is reason enough for you not to be one yet or are you still convinced that is either a lie or that if you are one of them, they will not put you in jail?

Nope. It doesn't have anything to do with agreeing with me, it has everything to do with their actions which are detrimental to gay rights.

I know - apology accepted - I did not take it peronally. I get that if you are just out, then your former world is changing and that is scary.

Yea it really is. But I can't tell my family...at least not now. And it is just silly and stupid and makes me angry!

Well, take it solwly and don't do something stupid like kill yourself.

:shocked:

Not going there.

Oh, see you really don't know me well yet...

If you did you would know that I LOVE MYSELF WAYYYY to much to do something like that! :laugh:

Serioulsy though, my faith in God keeps me going!

I just said that because many kids do and that is sad.

As for faith - whatever works for you, though your belief in organized religion will likely go after awhile as well. The reason I say that is the Catholic Church equated and still equates peds with gay people and then villified gay people as scapegoats for the the Church's own inaction in passing off peds to unsuspecting Parishes. That was just sick, unforgiveable, and the cause of pain for thousands of little boys and girls. Also, no Pentacostal Church will ever accept you and likely and literally will spit on you if you try. Finally, almost all organized religions will do everything they can to get that law making gay sex a crime passed and thus you a criminal who belongs in jail. Those are hard facts to comprehend when in your heart you feel God, which they claim to represent, is all loving, etc.

Yea I understand that! But that will never take away from my personal relationship with Jesus Christ! I will continue to label myself as a Catholic however seeing as how I believe in just about every other doctrine of faith.

Well, the Church does not really want you, but there are millions of gay Catholics who just turn a blind eye to it just like the vast majority of the other Catholics do with contraception, fidelity, etc. Thus, the term Cafeteria Catholics.

well its a Con Law topic? I mean I learned about it during MY classes???
Im just saying......